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Ron Paul is a feeble old man

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 08:23 PM
obamafan14 represents your typical American voter - voting for a candidate based on how attractive they look or how convincing they sound, not on the real issues.

Now you know why we haven't had any real good presidents since Calvin Coolidge.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 08:56 PM
reply to post by Equinox99

You're very welcome my fellow American.
I enjoyed giving them the light of day once more.
I will not hold my nose and vote. never again.

I'll have to go third party on this one..

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:30 PM
I for one minute donot believe ron paul is feeble minded, and in fact I believe he would be the answer to our problems with government.

Age to age, Shicain is feeble minded and nuttier than we know and will keep us in a war we don't want. Compare and it is obvious, Shicain is going to give the neo/nazi cons all that they want.

Ron Paul as a write in for president!

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:35 PM

Originally posted by obamafan14
Before I began to support Obama, I was a really enthusiastic Ron Paul supporter. I was in a local shopping square where I was handed a Ron Paul flyer. I read the flyer and realized I support everything Ron Paul was running on. There was one problem it turns out Ron Paul is a feeble old man. What first made me come to this realization is the reporting of the racist posts of Ron Paul's newsletter. Now I have no doubt in my mind Paul is not a racist but he is very incompetent for allowing this writings to go on in his name for so long. Also Ron Paul is a pathetic debater. His debating style during the debates is to seem like a crazy old man or become exasperated. If he was half a decent speaker he would of destroyed those weak republican candidates. Instead he just looked a little crazy. His campaign ran a terrible campaign, look at his christmas ad it looks like a family video made on final cut.

What's even more scarier to me is that John McCain is even more of a feeble old man. (Grandpa Munster- Bill Mahar) You know? After a while you don't want those people behind the wheel of a car because they just accidentally drive it off the road.

Can you imagine how many more badages we'll see on his face after 8 years of McCain?

And whats even worse is that his speeches work better on me than my Nytol. So whenever I can't sleep, I TIVO one of John McCains Speeches and watch if for 45 seconds and I am out of the night. Maybe if he would change his campaign slogan to "Vote for McCain and you sleep better at night!" then I might vote for him.

I know I read a Yahoo News Article about the possibility of McCain stepping down at the convention for Health reasons. That way they can revitalize the Republican Party with last minute brand new sparkly candidates.

It's funny to watch CNN and Fox talk about how much Obama flip flops, just look at John McCain record and he would make John Kerry's flip flopping look like amateur hour at the comedy club.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:36 PM
like you mentioned, ron paul isnt a great public speaker. but does it matter? its not how you deliver the message, but the message that is delivered. ron paul did the best anyone could do with the time he was allowed in the debates. every debate i saw, he was continuously cut off, allowed less time then the other canidates, and had less questions. but when he did speak, he made the most since out of everyone. people dont listen to the message these days.

barak obama could probably give a speech saying he is going to put a $5.00 gas tax on every gallon of gas you buy, and people would cheer and praise him just because he spoke the words eloquently. im convinced that people vote for who they see the most on tv or who the media hypes up the most. its sad, but most people probably dont think for themselves anymore, they just wait for the media to tell them who to vote for.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:53 PM
Paul admitted many times how he was unsure if he was the one to deliver the message or whether or not if this was the right time for the message.

I'll frankly admit that I have seen much better speech givers, but I know in my heart that his message is right on key and I refuse to switch to another candidate just because that's who's left and they might be a more charasmatic speaker. I'll still be voting my conscience, even if that means writing in my choice.

There are too many superficial voters out there who are easily swayed by fancy speeches and good-looking candidates. Everybody cries out for change but you'll never get it by chosing candidates backed by the Bilderberg group.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:56 PM
reply to post by obamafan14

I actually enjoyed watching many of his debates.
He speaks the truth well, and doesn't leave anything out.

audience seems to like him as well.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:42 PM
reply to post by Equinox99

Hi, I to am Canadian, and I actually spent time trying to donate money to his campaign. Unfortunatly as I found out later, you have to be an American citizen to donate money. I agree that Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air, and resonated honesty and a genuine concern for the common man. I also found it interesting how he was was virtually eliminated from the race by the elite controlled U.S. media.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:51 PM
This is kind of off topic....

...but does anyone know if there is anyone who might be following in Ron's footsteps for the next election. I would love for him to give it another shot next time around but he will probably be too old by then. So is anyone under his wing who might be able to portray the same message the next time around?

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:37 PM
reply to post by KidOK

one of us could...

I think the most important part of Ron Paul's revolution is for his message to carry on through us. It may inspire someone to step up.
Unfortunately, I also think that the govt will never let someone out of the bilderberg group become president...

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:52 PM
so the OP agrees with everything Paul stands for... but now is an obama supporter? conservative to socialist? Paul is against most of the things obama is for. Read Ron Pauls book before you decide to put him down. He speaks the truth.... he is leading the people to taking their country back, let us all hope, for our sake, that we can take it back before its too late.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 12:15 AM
its because so many people want a slick, BS talking, bozo to solve their problems for them that guys like ron paul never get a chance. if people voted with their brains we wouldnt have the same old same old every 4 years!...sorry folks voting for macain or obama isnt going to change anything. they both like the mess we're in and they will make sure it gets even more messy...if you really want things to change you vote for someone different...thats ron paul.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 12:46 AM
I was a Ron Paul supporter, would still be if he had not quit.

He lacked in voice delivery, debate, poise and persuasion.

These are very important skills. Teach them to your children. 100 years ago these were standard skills taught to people whose families wanted them to have the best education. We need to find someone in the movement with these skills to run as a candidate. We need to to hire consultants to train our candidate in these skills to best persuade other Americans to join us. That is how you have to play the game...just another thing in the long list of many the RP people did not invest our money into.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 12:47 AM
That feeble old man fought the battle for this republic for over thirty years. He can stand on everything he has ever said. And I'd stand there with him. I would follow Ron Paul into hell with a can of gasoline under my arm if he asked me.

He is a person That fought as hard as he could, for as long as he could. And when his body got to old to wield the same fire he once had, he continued that fight. No matter how completely exhausting it must have been for him. He stood there on the debate stage, telling anyone who would listen what was happening, he wanted all of us to stop, just to stop, and think. He wanted us out of Iraq, told us how to save our Dollar, how to help the economy. And they laughed him off the stage. They left microphones on so you could hear the other canidates snicker. And yet he stood there, despite you and all the others, and continued to try and help the country he loves.

He voted a solid, yes, or a solid no on everything he could vote on. And what does Your savior do? He votes "present". Present....What a stand up guy he is.

The reason you stopped supporting him had nothing to do with his voice. It was because he never promised to give you anything at your neighbors expense. He wouldn't help you get through "hard times", nor would he help you retire, he wouldn't help you with student loans either. He wouldn't have helped you do anything you should have already done by yourself.

You chose to support a candidate that has absolutely no clue about our Nations economy. Your candidate will tax you and everyone around you until you have no choice but to depend on your government to thrive, if you can even call that thriving. Our middle class will be gone in two years time. And all Obama can think about doing is passing a "global poverty" bill, that would have our people paying money they don't have to care for people in third world nations that they have never met, nor are they responsible for. By the time he takes office, he'll figure out that there is nothing left to tax, nothing left to loot from us. And all his promises will fade away, just like his presidency will. The messiah once said he could have troops out of Iraq in 3 months, now he says it'll be more like 16. By the time we get to the general They'll never make it home. He'll regulate companies in the name of solving global warming. Yet for all his regulation, the only thing it will do is the opposite. It'll allow corporations to pollute a little bit here, a little bit there. And if a company dumps "x" amount of pollutant in our drinking water, there will be nothing you can do about it. Because the law allowed them to do it.

We had a chance to fix this mess,a chance, only one. But becuase a very wise man had a "weak" voice. His warnings, his message, and his answers were not worth listening too.

Tomorrow the jobless report comes out, and when Wall Street finally pushes the panic button becuase of it, no amount of government intervention is going to solve it. By the middle of next year, when our entitlement debts are due, Obama and everyone else that wanted "change" are going to get just that. A nation without production, a nation with no jobs, a government with over 70 trillion in debts that can never be paid back.

There was an answer, Obama wasn't it. Ron Paul's message was, and so where you, you just didn't want to work for it.

[edit on 3-7-2008 by aravoth]

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 12:54 AM
He is a honest but nuts. He was a dreamer with only one foot in reality. I liked him but come on, we all knew he had no chance.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 01:35 AM
Yeah....forget the guy who has a spotless, unparalleled political career in the senate that spans over three decades, with a voting history that has been as spot on consistent as any in the history of our government.

Let's forget the guy who has a lifetime of first hand knowledge and wisdom to depart, not to mention actual sensible ideas and real life workable strategies for repairing our country and our stuporing economy.

Let's ignore the man who actually has the audacity to stand up for American citizens and (god forbid) actually adhere to the constitution of the United States as it is written.

Instead....let's listen to the inexperienced socialist hand puppet and the bumbling, clueless, millionaire neo-con war monger. They dress better....they are better public mouth pieces. Hoo rah.

Yeah...that's a fantastic idea

Maybe all of these foreigners on ATS are right, maybe Americans really are as dense as they are constantly made out to be. Makes me wonder.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:06 AM
Ron Paul will always have my support. I have donated money to his campaign and will do so again should he decide to make another bid. People laugh at his ideas because they are consumed with the BS politicans who talk about everything and do absolutely nothing. God bless Ron Paul and God damn the professional liars running this country.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:09 AM
Ron Paul was the only one that was genuine. The only one where I believed that he actually knew what he was talking about. He was debating with people who had on plastic smiles with predetermined thoughts, thus his emotion and execution were... of the human, intelligent, and knowledgable sort! I have never felt inclined to vote so strongly until Ron Paul came into the situation.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:10 AM
reply to post by obamafan14

what are you talking about that he's a bad debater. After he showed
he could win debates, they were scared and kept him away.

He would have had a chance if they didnt play their dirty tricks.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:28 AM
If the Internet was a country, Ron Paul would be president, prime minister etc. in a minute.

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