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Iran Attack on US naval fleet in Mediterranean

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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I have been pondering just how America is going to attack Iran, and have a "justified" reason for doing so. It has dawned on me that the US Navy is in the right place at the right time.


We bring to the attention of our readers, this carefully documented review of the ongoing naval build-up and deployment of coalition forces in the Middle East.

The article examines the geopolitics behind this military deployment and its relationship to "the Battle for Oil".

The structure of military alliances is crucial to an understanding of these war preparations.

The naval deployment is taking place in two distinct theaters: the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean.

Both Israel and NATO are slated to play a major role in the US-led war.

The militarization of the Eastern Mediterranean is broadly under the jurisdiction of NATO in liaison with Israel. Directed against Syria, it is conducted under the façade of a UN peace-keeping mission pursuant to UN Security Council Resolution 1701. In this context, the war on Lebanon must be viewed as a stage of a the broader US sponsored military road-map.

The naval armada in the Persian Gulf is largely under US command, with the participation of Canada.

The naval buildup is coordinated with the planned air attacks. The planning of the aerial bombings of Iran started in mid-2004, pursuant to the formulation of CONPLAN 8022 in early 2004. In May 2004, National Security Presidential Directive NSPD 35 entitled Nuclear Weapons Deployment Authorization was issued. While its contents remains classified, the presumption is that NSPD 35 pertains to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in the Middle East war theater in compliance with CONPLAN 8022.

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Commander, Sixth Fleet has both U.S. national and NATO responsibilities. He reports to the Commander-In-Chief, U.S. Naval Forces, Europe (CinCUSNavEur) in the U.S. chain of command and to CinCSouth when the Sixth Fleet operates as part of NATO as StrikForSouth. The principal striking power of the Sixth Fleet resides in its aircraft carriers and the modern jet aircraft, its submarines, and its reinforced battalion of U.S. Marines on board amphibious ships deployed in the Mediterranean. Altogether, approximately 40 ships, 175 aircraft and 21,000 people make up the Sixth Fleet.

If your happy living a lie...don't watch this video.
Now in this video, which has been talked about here on ats, please note the last statement of the video.

Now i also think this will start the Greatest Depression. The attack will trickle down to our pockets throwing the match on the pile of wood, if you will.

Tell me what you guys think.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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Well I wouldnt count on it being a NATO/US attack if it ever comes to pass.

Any attack on Iran would be a US/Israeli event ......... you are on your own there.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:01 AM
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The White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said it expected Iran to “miss an opportunity to accept” the incentives package.

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Operational Brimstone, starting Monday, July 21, aimed at giving military teeth to the two-week ultimatum the six world powers gave Iran in Geneva Saturday to accept the suspension of uranium enrichment or face harsh sanctions and isolation.

After warning of punitive measures against Iran, Condoleezza Rice met the six members of the Gulf Cooperation Council plus Egypt, Jordan and Iraq in Abu Dhabi. First she was briefed by Under Secretary of State William Burns.

The penalty of withholding refined oil products from Iran would be exercised by means of a partial international naval blockade of its Gulf ports.

Taking part in the 10-day exercise in the Atlantic Ocean are more than a dozen ships, including the US carrier strike group Theodore Roosevelt and expeditionary strike group Iwo Jima; the French submarine Amethyste, and the British HMS Illustrious Carrier Strike Group, as well as a Brazilian frigate.

Six vessels from the Norfolk Naval State will play the role of “enemy” forces.

About 15,000 sailors will be involved in Operation Brimstone. Both the Roosevelt and Iwo Jima will be deployed in the Middle East in the coming months.

The exercise is scheduled to end July 31, two days before the US-European ultimatum to Iran expires. Immediately after the Geneva talks ended in failure, the US State Department issued a statement giving Tehran the option of “cooperation or confrontation.”

A partial blockade of Iran’s shores, a key element of the new sanctions, would be limited to withholding from Iran supplies of benzene and other refined oil products - not foodstuffs or other commodities. Short of refining capacity, Iran has to import 40 percent of its benzene consumption and will be forced to react to the stoppage.

www.debka.com...





I told you! I'm totally right! And that is from 2 days ago!
It feels so good to be right-



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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An old trick is to place a banana peel on the ground and then pretend to slip on it. If no one saw you put it down, count your blessings. pass the ammunition and stock up on haliburton.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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Naustradamus actually predicted "the new country's fleet will become a sea of fire" or something to this affect about Iran.

Yahoo it, am sure it's out there.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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I aslo think mother shipton(sp?). I think she saw something similiar. So you agree then?



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:41 AM
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I don't know about Mother Shipton, but the US Navy is in a bad spot.

Iran has the Sunburn II Nuclear anti-ship missle which can be launched with mobile launchers. These launchers are very difficult to spot as they can be moved around in minutes. Iran can launch these Nuclear-tipped missles from the rocky coast above the Navy at the entry point.

There is no way out. They would be trapped.

The fleet should have major coverage with the A-10 Warthogs over the rocky coast to take out any mobile launch units before they get started.



[edit on 23-7-2008 by jetxnet]



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 03:03 AM
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They deployed the sunscreen countermeasures last week.
My name not theirs.

Our military are not stupid. They know quite well how to deploy and what their capabilities are. The problem is not Iran taking out ships. It is global escalation to MAD.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by jetxnet
I don't know about Mother Shipton, but the US Navy is in a bad spot.

Iran has the Sunburn II Nuclear anti-ship missle which can be launched with mobile launchers. These launchers are very difficult to spot as they can be moved around in minutes. Iran can launch these Nuclear-tipped missles from the rocky coast above the Navy at the entry"

"IF" Iran fires first, it will be distroyed by NATO, as all NATO member MUST respond to an attack on any NATO member.

Add to that in this little group is France/UK/US and even Brazil.

The big point is that they would be attacking all NATO not just making it Iran/Russia VS US/Israel, as Iran would hope for.

BTW, brazil is NOT a NATO member country.
List of NATO countries



[edit on 23-7-2008 by jetxnet]


[edit on 7/23/2008 by mrmonsoon]



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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OMG! The Iranians attacked us just like the Spaniards did to the Maine in Cuba, and the Vietnamese did in the Gulf of Tonkin!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by sir_chancealot
OMG! The Iranians attacked us just like the Spaniards did to the Maine in Cuba, and the Vietnamese did in the Gulf of Tonkin!!!!!!!!!!


Of course that means UK/France and Brazil all agree to lie with the US. (for your idea to work)

We all need to hope you are wrong.

Imo, one Sunburn nuclear strike would cause and unknow number of ICBM's in response.

In all seriousness, that is enough to vaporize every major city in Iran.......period.

This is not good or a goal. It is a realistic response.

For non-nuclear, It is a direct attack on NATO.................................



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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Iran is the older country



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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NATO is worthless, never leave anything to NATO. Leaving Afghanistan to NATO resulted in the Taliban getting back control. The US is now trying to establish what NATO lost.

It's like the old saying goes, "If you want something done right, then you got to do it yourself". Somehow I think the US and Israel are in this position.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by jetxnet


Iran has the Sunburn II Nuclear anti-ship missle which can be launched with mobile launchers. These launchers are very difficult to spot as they can be moved around in minutes. Iran can launch these Nuclear-tipped missles from the rocky coast above the Navy at the entry point.

There is no way out. They would be trapped.

The fleet should have major coverage with the A-10 Warthogs over the rocky coast to take out any mobile launch units before they get started.



[edit on 23-7-2008 by jetxnet]


Raytheon rolled out the SeaRAM anti-ship missle defense system.
What is significant about this anti-missile defense system is that it can defeat the Mach 2.5 Russian "Sunburn" anti-ship missle. Until the rollout of the SeaRAM, the Russians have enjoyed a very dangerous advantage in anti-ship missile technology. In order to destablize the power of the United States, the Russians have been selling the Sunburn missles to China. The Russians have refused to sell them to the West, and despite the best efforts of it's spies, the west has very little information on them. (Thanks Klinton for passing up the deal when they were offered!)
The Sunburn missles are capable of delivering conventional and nuclear warheads to sea-based targets.
The standard US Navy anti-missle defense system is too slow to engage the Sunburn. This system, called the Phalanx, has only about 2.5 seconds to react to the Sunburn. In multiple tests, the Phalanx failed to engage high speed missiles in time to protect a ship.
Speed aside, the other threat the Sunburn poses is it's destructive force. The Sunburn skims the sea and pops up at the last seconds to slam down on the decks of ships. The combined speed and warhead payload would be devastating to all ships in the US arsenal.
The Chinese have purchased a number of Sunburn missiles from the Russians and are counting on them to neutralize the threat from the United States Navy in any scenario involving Tiawan.
One has to do some digging to find out how effective the system is. Raytheon isn't really saying much about it's performance, but I've managed to dig up some info.
"In 10 scenarios, real Anti-Ship Missiles and supersonic Vandal target missiles (Mach 2.5) were intercepted and destroyed under realistic conditions. RAM Block 1 achieved first-shot kills on every target in its presented scenarios, including sea-skimming, diving and highly maneuvering profiles in both single and stream attacks."
"With these test firings RAM demonstrated its unparalleled success against today's most challenging threats. Cumulatively to date more than 180 missiles have been fired against anti-ship missiles and other targets, achieving a success rate over 95%"
The SeaRAM is a drop in replacement for the Phalanx system. The RAM missle itself is a mach 2, second generation derivative of the Sidewinder and Stinger missles. It features BOTH infrared and radar based target tracking, allowing for use against future low radar cross section (stealthy) anti-ship missles. The effective range of the RAM missile is 11 miles. The CIWS part of the SeaRAM can track multiple targets and fire multiple missles at a single target. Each SeaRAM platform holds 11 RAM missiles



posted on Jul, 26 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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How this senario will ultimately play out has been fortold by God and dictated to the prophet Eziekel and recorded in Ch 38 & 39. When you read these chapters, not only do you see the same players in this confilict spelled out as we have in the conflicting coalitions read in todays newspapers, but we also see the result fortold 2600 years in advance.

The result is this; God himself will anialate the Islamic coalition led by supplied by and supported by Russia,(Gog the leader of Magog) Including Persia (Iran) and in the end 5/6 of the enemies of Israel will be killed (Ez 39:2)

At this point Ch 40-48 deal with the rebuilt Temple and the Temple ordinances. The Temple will be rebuilt due to no Islamic opposition now that they have seen God deliver Israel in such a miraculous way (Just as He did in 1948, 1967 & 1973) only now Israel and the mighty IDF will not take credit, but rather give the credit due to God. The glory to God in all this is that " ..they shall know that I am the LORD" Ez 39:6



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