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The Real Iran, What Many People Don't Know

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Here's an interesting book on the Middle East:

www.amazon.com...=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215029785&sr=8-4

Very funny and informative.




posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Last i checked, Ahmadihejad is not the one truly in power. How come no one mentions the Supreme Leader. The president almost cannot do anything without the Supreme Leader's approval.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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ah now the shills start filling in huh...?

WAR....WAR....WAR....WAR...WAR...WAR....WAR......WAR...

does that make you happy......????

what part exactly do you find so intoxicating about bombing and
killing people???

and they call this a propaganda thread.... geeesh....insane

I think we should all take a new look at what should be deemed
unstable mental behavior ....

you want death and destruction?... yep...MENTALLY UNSTABLE
to say the least.....



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by PokeyJoe
Whoopdie freaking doo...

Iran has ski resorts and cute women who like to party.....that must mean that they are all just awesome! This thread is just as much propaganda as the other side. Im sorry, but showing me cute cuddly pictures of people in Iran isnt going to persuade me one way or another.

Even if we attacked them, its not like we are going to be bombing the hell out of Tehran and the innocent civilians. We are not going to invade Iran. All it will be is a bunch of air strikes to take out their military infrastructure, and they will submit.....that will be that.

Anyone who thinks Iran would be anything like Iraq is just silly.





"its not like we are going to be bombing the hell out of Tehran and the innocent civilians"


"
US forces admit to using over 300 tons of DU weapons in 1991. The actual figure is closer to 800. Also the US used 200 tons more in Baghdad alone during the recent invasion with a total of 1500 tons in all of Iraq. And this time it wasn't limited to anti-tank weapons but was extended to guided missiles, large bunker busters and big 2000-pound bombs used in Iraq's cities. This means that Iraq's cities have been blanketed in lethal particles. Japanese professor, Dr. Yagasaki, calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs."
www.countercurrents.org...


"America’s controlled press has failed to inform the public that, in spite of years of UN inspections and numerous international treaties, tons of banned weapons of mass destruction (WMD)—used and unused—remain in Iraq. Indeed, both chemical and radio active WMD have been—and continue to be used against U.S. and coalition soldiers.

The media silence surrounding these banned WMDs, and the horrendous consequences of their use, is due to the simple fact that they are being used by the U.S.-led coalition. They are the new “silver bullet” in the U.S. arsenal. They are depleted uranium weapons...

Rokke told American Free Press that the Pentagon uses DU weapons because they are the most effective at killing and destroying everything they hit. The highest level of the U.S. and British governments have “totally disregarded the consequences” of the use of DU weapons, Rokke said"

www.health-now.org...


FUTURE USE PREDICTED

The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that branches of the U. S. military are looking for alternatives to DU, but officials refuse to say publicly whether DU weapons will be used in a new war against Iraq. Defense Department spokeswoman Barbara Goodno has acknowledged, "Depleted uranium is an important component in the U.S. arsenal."

"Despite being engaged multiple times (during the Gulf War), often at close range, by Iraqi tanks and anti-armor weapons," she added, "not a single U.S. tank protected by DU armor was penetrated or knocked out by hostile fire."

Experts say the crucial edge that DU technology affords makes it too effective to pass up.

"Yes, certainly the U.S. will use it," said John Eldridge, editor of the authoritative book Jane's Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defense.

www.commondreams.org...


So far certain predictions are of over 1,000,000 civilians killed by US in Afganistan and Iraq, over 300,000 children.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by mystiq]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:31 PM
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Dr. Deagle said that Aug 07, the fallout of depleted uranium (ie. read dirty bomb and over 400 billion years for earth to cleanse itself) rained on North America, so what we allowed done, we received, kind of like Karma. We are responsible for selecting leaders from amongst ourselves that are not related bloodlines, and improving our democracies. Its a real responsibility we have.


Edit to add: US leaders, and the cohorts, use and plan on continuing to use, dirty bomb technology, and poison the world for countless billions of years. The reality check is, these guys really are your leaders. They are unimaginably insane, and if they're not the occult lucifereans certain disclosures claim, they should be, because they make the devil look like a wayward teenager by comparison.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by mystiq]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Great thread and great pictures. I must admit - seeing the BBC documentary - I was astounded with the snowy mountains in Iran.

Iranian teenagers on the program are no different to any teenagers around the world and as I have said before I other threads - their government are using the age old trick of deflecting their own incompetencies by trying to demonise an external enemy (as indeeed do most governments)

So what did you do to help peace - full marks to the person who set up this blog - it's bits like this that help show that we are not different (and actually its a refreshing change having someone celebrate the things we have in common rather than demonise the things that we don't)



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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The extremists can't picket with infidel-hating signs the whole time, you know. Eventually, they do normal things.

OK, this thread happened to outline the half of the people in Iran that don't want to strap bombs to their chests and blow them up. For everyone that is good, there is someone that is evil. The point is, Iran is one of the most anti-western nations on Earth. Yes, there are good people there just like anywhere else, but there are also the highest concentrations of evil.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:41 PM
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I will apologize for my BRASHNESS..
I do not mind AT ALL having to play the part
of the un.cooth loudmouth.

If thats what it takes to TELL IT LIKE IT IS
and show the Madness that is in the hearts and minds of the
brainwashed war loving terrorist fearing kind.
THEN SO BE IT....

You People make me sick to my stomach and make me
cry like a little child....

HUMANITY

do you even know what that word means????
look it up.

LOVE
I guess you are short on this too.....
COMPASSION
which you are VOID OF

ok.....NOW.....

WHO IS THE EVIL ON THIS EARTH???????

THINK ABOUT IT.

I`ll tell ya what theory? when ever a shill comes in and says something,
(bbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzer....sorry wrong answer
but thanx for playing.....)

I know it is false....
its really that simple........You like that theory?????
sure ya do..........

now I have found ANOTHER way to see the truth..
just like fox news and the msm..

whatever you / they say, then the OPPOSITE is TRUE
TRUE
TRUE
TRUE
TRUE


And the TRUTHERS WIN AGAIN.....

Truthers score 100
Shills score 0



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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I know a number of Iranians, and they have told me many things that I did not know. For example, a large proportion of Iranians consider themselves Persian, not Iranian and only follow the Islamic religion to the extent that they have to by law (and often break the rules behind closed doors). The muslims only took over in 1979 after all.

The Iranians I know are quite wealthy and have house parties, just like in Western countries, they drink alocohol, smoke etc, in Iran as well as abroad. Many still speak in their own languages, persian, parsi or the arabic influenced farsi, rather than speak pure arabic. The identity of being Persian, seems to be something many are very proud of, and I seriously doubt you will find many people that class themselves as Persian blowing themselves up.

There is a war of spin against Iran now, it is clearly one of the next targets for invasion and so the spin and propaganda will be jammed up, in order to justify action and get the public on side. Creating a false image of Iranians all being crazy extremists, is beneficial, to breed hatred for the country in the west, though in reality, Iran is a civilised and actually quite advanced nation. It is a lot further down the line than Afghanistan and Iraq in terms of those two things.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:46 PM
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The Greeks invented democracy but you don't see Greece promoting it as the US does. Every war the US has been, whether they label it otherwise, is a war to establish democracy. Thus, the US will establish relationship with the newly converted country while pillaging everything they can. What's next after war on terrorism; war on Christianity or Islam. American history taught me that every region has its own culture and yet, those same people are defining which culture is the best and push their agenda towards it. If that isn't a way to control the entire world one nation at a time, then i don't know what is.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:53 PM
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Really nice pictures and I appreciate the thread and all, but in my experience the mass media has done a very good job of showing the viewer that the problem in Iran is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, not the people of Iran.


But it is the people who end up dying in masses. The war would not be a war against Ahmadinejad it is against Iran as a Country, a cluture, and a nation. It would be a about our young killing their young and vice versa.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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But iranians need to understand that thier spoksperson, and thier government, say a lot.


Please don't tell me this is justifacation for another preemptive war. Are you supportive of these people dying becasue of the words of their so called leader?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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[edit on 2-7-2008 by PokeyJoe]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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This isn't just a preemptive war though, this war has too many contracts signed, it would be devastating to the entire world's population, the war of contracts. Israel attacks, US and England go in. Russia is contracted to Iran, I believe China as well, and too many numerous to mention. Strange will be the counter contracts. Ie., does Canada have to help US,and Israel? But we also have a contract with Russia, from what I've read. In any case, the point of this war is to depopulate the earth. We cannot allow it to occur. This time, we must stop it by all means necessary, such as physically throwing out the criminals in office if they start it.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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The war with Germany wasn't preemptive. It wasn't based on spotty data and rhetoric.



This is the problem with some people. They use their 'feelings' instead of their brains.


I do fully agree with this statement however. If people could stop living such fear driven lives and start using their brains we may not have people condoning the obliteration of nation after nation. What ever happened to diplomacy???



[edit on 2-7-2008 by harvib]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by mrmanuva
I know a number of Iranians


I have known and worked with many Iranians and they were wonderful, generous, peaceful people.

Great thread and great pictures. Thank you.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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Why dont you go fight the war for yourself? or are u too cowardly?

Ya you would rather have your neighbors die for your silly ignorance wouldnt you. As long as its not your own skin bleeding.

Anyways, war is evil. its Wrong.

Love and forgiveness is Right and Good.

You have alot to learn. Your arrogance and open cowardice is astounding.

You do NOT speak for all americans. I am an educated american. And i think we can achieve far more working togaether with the people of Iran for the Common Good , thus increasing all of our prosperity, as opposed to killing each other and unleashing hell on earth.

I just want you to know that your a minority here. I respect your right to have an opinion, but heres my opinion, you need a shrink, badly.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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The same goes with all Middle Eastern nations. THEY GOT OIL MAN. Oil = Money = Modernization.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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there is where you are wrong muzzle flash. i would gladly die so my neighbor wouldnt have to. its one of the main reasions i joined the service.

well you were right about the shrink though. he seem to want to see me alot.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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The Iranians are not Arabs.
In a way, they are us.
They are the Arians and migrated to England and were the Anglo-Saxons.
Going to war against them seems very short-sighted.
We need to look at the world in long term ways and not from the perspective of the global corporations.
The government always lies to their own people to get them to go to war.
Why would this be any different?
Listen to Bush, "Fool me once, shame on you.... fool me... well you know."



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