The Real Iran, What Many People Don't Know, page 6
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reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 03:17 PM by jerico65
Here's an interesting book on the Middle East:

www.amazon.com...=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215029785&sr=8-4

Very funny and informative.


reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 03:25 PM by mystiq
Originally posted by PokeyJoe
Whoopdie freaking doo...

Iran has ski resorts and cute women who like to party.....that must mean that they are all just awesome! This thread is just as much propaganda as the other side. Im sorry, but showing me cute cuddly pictures of people in Iran isnt going to persuade me one way or another.

Even if we attacked them, its not like we are going to be bombing the hell out of Tehran and the innocent civilians. We are not going to invade Iran. All it will be is a bunch of air strikes to take out their military infrastructure, and they will submit.....that will be that.

Anyone who thinks Iran would be anything like Iraq is just silly.





"its not like we are going to be bombing the hell out of Tehran and the innocent civilians"

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US forces admit to using over 300 tons of DU weapons in 1991. The actual figure is closer to 800. Also the US used 200 tons more in Baghdad alone during the recent invasion with a total of 1500 tons in all of Iraq. And this time it wasn't limited to anti-tank weapons but was extended to guided missiles, large bunker busters and big 2000-pound bombs used in Iraq's cities. This means that Iraq's cities have been blanketed in lethal particles. Japanese professor, Dr. Yagasaki, calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs."
www.countercurrents.org...


"America’s controlled press has failed to inform the public that, in spite of years of UN inspections and numerous international treaties, tons of banned weapons of mass destruction (WMD)—used and unused—remain in Iraq. Indeed, both chemical and radio active WMD have been—and continue to be used against U.S. and coalition soldiers.

The media silence surrounding these banned WMDs, and the horrendous consequences of their use, is due to the simple fact that they are being used by the U.S.-led coalition. They are the new “silver bullet” in the U.S. arsenal. They are depleted uranium weapons...

Rokke told American Free Press that the Pentagon uses DU weapons because they are the most effective at killing and destroying everything they hit. The highest level of the U.S. and British governments have “totally disregarded the consequences” of the use of DU weapons, Rokke said"

www.health-now.org...


FUTURE USE PREDICTED

The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that branches of the U. S. military are looking for alternatives to DU, but officials refuse to say publicly whether DU weapons will be used in a new war against Iraq. Defense Department spokeswoman Barbara Goodno has acknowledged, "Depleted uranium is an important component in the U.S. arsenal."

"Despite being engaged multiple times (during the Gulf War), often at close range, by Iraqi tanks and anti-armor weapons," she added, "not a single U.S. tank protected by DU armor was penetrated or knocked out by hostile fire."

Experts say the crucial edge that DU technology affords makes it too effective to pass up.

"Yes, certainly the U.S. will use it," said John Eldridge, editor of the authoritative book Jane's Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defense.

www.commondreams.org...


So far certain predictions are of over 1,000,000 civilians killed by US in Afganistan and Iraq, over 300,000 children.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by mystiq]


reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 03:53 PM by harvib
reply to post by The Cyfre





Really nice pictures and I appreciate the thread and all, but in my experience the mass media has done a very good job of showing the viewer that the problem in Iran is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, not the people of Iran.


But it is the people who end up dying in masses. The war would not be a war against Ahmadinejad it is against Iran as a Country, a cluture, and a nation. It would be a about our young killing their young and vice versa.


reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 04:00 PM by harvib
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts





But iranians need to understand that thier spoksperson, and thier government, say a lot.


Please don't tell me this is justifacation for another preemptive war. Are you supportive of these people dying becasue of the words of their so called leader?


reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 04:10 PM by harvib
reply to post by WhatTheory



The war with Germany wasn't preemptive. It wasn't based on spotty data and rhetoric.


This is the problem with some people. They use their 'feelings' instead of their brains.


I do fully agree with this statement however. If people could stop living such fear driven lives and start using their brains we may not have people condoning the obliteration of nation after nation. What ever happened to diplomacy???



[edit on 2-7-2008 by harvib]



reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 04:30 PM by muzzleflash
reply to post by DaleGribble



Why dont you go fight the war for yourself? or are u too cowardly?

Ya you would rather have your neighbors die for your silly ignorance wouldnt you. As long as its not your own skin bleeding.

Anyways, war is evil. its Wrong.

Love and forgiveness is Right and Good.

You have alot to learn. Your arrogance and open cowardice is astounding.

You do NOT speak for all americans. I am an educated american. And i think we can achieve far more working togaether with the people of Iran for the Common Good , thus increasing all of our prosperity, as opposed to killing each other and unleashing hell on earth.

I just want you to know that your a minority here. I respect your right to have an opinion, but heres my opinion, you need a shrink, badly.


reply posted on 2-7-2008 @ 04:39 PM by DaleGribble
reply to post by muzzleflash



there is where you are wrong muzzle flash. i would gladly die so my neighbor wouldnt have to. its one of the main reasions i joined the service.

well you were right about the shrink though. he seem to want to see me alot.
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