The Real Iran, What Many People Don't Know

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posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
North America mainly the Southern half

Oh, you are one of those people.

You also probably think the U.S. conquered and killed the aliens living on the moon in order to grab the land.




posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Maya432
sir you spew nothing but LIES LIES LIES
you sure love WAR huh?

Ouch, must have hit a nerve because you know it's true.

How is it a lie when everything is backed up with facts?
Please take your faux outrage elsewhere and try to think for yourself instead of being a brainwashed liberal with their head in the sand.



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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Iran.. the new terrorist....hmmmmmmm
what theory.. you do nothing but go around this site insulting
anyone who is not of the RIGHT WING...
why is this...?
it is the right wing that has caused all this TERROR...
it is the RIGHT WING that is making America and the world
a giant POLICE STATE.

so give it up already.
the right wing bs is not welcome here
these people are talking about beauty and peace and family..
and you are trying to convince everyone to blow them up...nice
real nice...your quite the peace lover there sir. NOT

why don`t you tell us about all the wmd`s that were in Iraq
that justified killing half the country.
and remind us of the Islamic extremist that attacked new york and washington...

funny...the government says that "there is no way it could have been an inside job....way too complicated for that.... yet...allegedly ,
muslims in caves in the middle east could do it so easily..

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Iran is the next sacrifice for the N.W.O
The next step in the never ending WAR on "TERROR"



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker

I say, throw shrub Jr and Aneedanotherjob...or whatever his name is in a room and let them have at each other. We could sell it on Pay-per-View!!


Good one weedwacker, but we already have the perfect arena on "free" tv. It's called "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?"


I have friends from Iran (Christians) that immigrated here about 10 years ago, and they act more American than some of the "natives". They are good people!!! They want for their family the same as we do for our families. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Let the Iranian government fall due to its own internal affairs. Bombing the Iranian people will only turn allies into an enemies. Iranians are not Iraqi's. I think it's only a matter of time until the people of Iran get rid of Aneedanotherjob, and ilk of his kind.

Best wishes to the Iranian people!!!!!



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Maya432
what theory.. you do nothing but go around this site insulting
anyone who is not of the RIGHT WING...
why is this...?
it is the right wing that has caused all this TERROR...
it is the RIGHT WING that is making America and the world
a giant POLICE STATE.

Apparently your comprehension skills are not that acute because I did not insult anyone. I guess you call the word 'liberal' an insult.

The 'right wing' as you call it has done nothing of the sort. You are incorrect and spewing nothing but liberal propaganda.


so give it up already.
the right wing bs is not welcome here

Sure it's welcome. Who do you think you are? I see, just as I thought, you love socialism and communism since you want to silence your opposition.

I'm just as welcome as your left wing dribble.


why don`t you tell us about all the wmd`s that were in Iraq
that justified killing half the country.

Ok, sure. Here you go:

Source 1

Source 2

Source 3

Oh, I guess your liberal friends and media don't talk about this right?



and remind us of the Islamic extremist that attacked new york and washington...

I'm glad we agree that this is the fact and the truth.



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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Yawn... Yawn .... Yawn

Anyone can cherry pick pictures to make a story into what they want, I could go right now and post 100 pictures of Germany looking friendly during WW2, a form of propaganda is all I see here.

I'm not saying Iran is good or bad because WE are just the same, take ANY country and you can spin it how you want. THE REAL IRAN... what a joke..... wake up for your sake, the amount of people giving props to this post ... please.




posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by bios

Our issues are with the leadership of Iran not the common people.

I strongly disagree.
Our issues are with the leadership of the USA.

I love my country, but fear my government!

The whole world fears the US government.
With good reason:

Only nation to ever use nuclear weapons against another country. {1945}

Iran's democratically elected government was overthrown by a cia campaign of terrorist bombings.

>The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup<
www.gwu.edu...

The list goes on and on, of countries the US either overthrew or tried to overthrow: (Iran, Guatemala, Paraguay {1954}; Argentina {1955}; Congo {1960}; Chile {1973}; Venezuela {2002 & 2008}; Nicaragua {1980's}; Panama {1903}; Dominican Republic {1965}; Vietnam {1963} ; Bolivia {1970}; Phillipines, Puerto Rico {1898}; Hawaii {1893}; Cuba {1959 & 1961} Afghanistan {2002}; Iraq {1968 & 2002}; Ghana {1966}; ... )
en.wikipedia.org...
archives.econ.utah.edu...
en.wikipedia.org...'état_and_coup_attempts

>Panama only exists as a nation, because, US Marines carved out a separate country from Columbia for US business interests to exploit.
>"Bananna Republic" refers to US overthrow of Guatemala's democratically elected government on behalf of United Fruit Company.


What does the USA replace democratically elected governments with?

Rightwing dictatorships, in most cases.
















[edit on 4-7-2008 by himself]



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 06:30 PM
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reply to post by II HAL II
 


I think the point of the thread is to show that the Iranians are people, the same as everyone. As shown by this thread there are people that need to be reminded of this fact.



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
You also probably think the U.S. conquered and killed the aliens living on the moon in order to grab the land.


HECK NO


We haven't won that battle yet :shk:

But Werner von Braun said America will manufacture four enemies to keep the war buck flowing and arm space

1) Russians (been there done that they never were our 'enemy')
2) Terrorists (Daily news and subject of this thread)
3) Asteroids ( We will need some BIG space guns for those)
4) Fake Alien Invasion ( We will need a fleet for those )

Watch for it Asteroids are already big news these days with all the near misses

Point is the whole terrorist thing is a ruse... without touching 911... name me one attack by a terrorist on American Soil and which country he was from.

And with all this chatter from the Whitehouse about the threat of Nukes from Iran or North Korea... remember that the only nation who has actually ever used them on anyone.. women, children, and puppy dogs is US and we did it twice

They attack Pearl Harbour a military target... we nuke two cities

And we are the 'good guys'


And so far we have been at WAR for many years... can someone please tell me which NATION is our 'enemy' in this 'war'? Which NATION has attacked us that we need to mobilize such forces?

That we need to ask Russia China and India for troops to support?

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posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Grendel39
I DO not CARE what Iran looks like!

Actually I do! I see people having fun and enjoying life but at the same time their government is supporting SO many terrorist groups! Hmmm, they supply weapons to the VERY same people that are KILLING are TROOPS!

They destabilize the entire region. Train many other groups to KILL others in Lebanon and Isreal. They haven't HAD a RELATIONSHIP with the US because they cannot even be trusted with DIPLOMATS.

This is a nation that should BURN in their own nuclear fuel unless they decide to become a MEMBER of the world!

If the people don't want them and are so happy go lucky, vote them out...



Till then,

Bah Bah BAH bahba ba Iran :-)


American troops are killing hundreds of thousands Iraqis and Afghanistans. And many many more. No longer do I support the 'Troops'. Would You have supported the German Army as it invaded Poland. Or done the same to the French?

Do you support the troops just because they are 'the troops'? Get a clue. You either support right or you support wrong. I think you support 'wrong'.



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by medicis
American troops are killing hundreds of thousands Iraqis and Afghanistans. And many many more.


Care to verify those figures for me?

Thanks



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Point is the whole terrorist thing is a ruse... without touching 911... name me one attack by a terrorist on American Soil

The point is we have thwarted many attacks:

Thwarted attacks since 9/11

Attacks before 9/11


remember that the only nation who has actually ever used them on anyone.. women, children, and puppy dogs is US and we did it twice
They attack Pearl Harbour a military target... we nuke two cities
And we are the 'good guys'

Umm....yes, we are the good guys.
So you have a problem with the U.S. using the nukes against Japan?
So what you are saying is that you would have prefered an additional couple hundred thousand U.S. and allied troops die by fighting urban warfare in order to take over Japan. Got it!
Look, the use of the nukes were warranted because of all the U.S. and allied forces lives which were saved. Just as many civilians would have died if we would have had to carpet bomb Japan and fight city by city.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble
reply to post by Zanzibar
 



the sad thing is they bring a diffrent joy to the people over there where wemen are only used for reproduction. anyone who has ever been there will tell you the same thing....


yu are an idiot red neck. ive spoken with many people who have lived there most of their lives and thats anything but the case.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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Umigo's contribution to this post serves as clear and present evidence to suggest that the vast majority of people in this world know very little about one another’s culture.

As an experiment I decided to tell people that I intend to holiday in Iran this summer and the reactions were perplexing! They ranged from: 'I'd always be watching my back.' to 'I can think of better places to visit.' What is disturbing is that when I questioned their reasoning, no one could substantiate their comments.

What's sad is the fact that we are all too keen to take someone else’s word as a matter of fact and not have the wit to test its validity.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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This is in fact the "Cradle of Civilization".....
Ancient Sumeria home (at least post-flood) of the Mystery religions.
See the Terra papers for an even more interesting theory.
Iran has a lot of Cosmic Karma to work out.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 11:52 AM
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Actually the stargates are supposedly one of the reason for planning on invading Iran from what the disclosures at Project Camelot relay.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by Maya432


why don`t you tell us about all the wmd`s that were in Iraq
that justified killing half the country.

Ok, sure. Here you go:

Source 1

Source 2

Source 3

Oh, I guess your liberal friends and media don't talk about this right?




LOL... Oh that's where they went. According to the articles he disassembled and dispersed his "WMDs". Makes the invasion pointless in that case, no?




The words you need to focus on is 'setting up'. Their government is not fully in place yet. Once their government is completely established we will leave. Anytime before that would be crazy because everything up to this point will have been for nothing.


Is this the process that McCain and others believe may take a hundred years? I think we need to consider what our priorities should be. Next time we need to consider the outcomes before invading a sovereign Nation. This is proof and point of why we should be very skeptical of any decision to do the same to Iran

[edit on 5-7-2008 by harvib]

[edit on 5-7-2008 by harvib]



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by zorgon


remember that the only nation who has actually ever used them on anyone.. women, children, and puppy dogs is US and we did it twice
They attack Pearl Harbour a military target... we nuke two cities
And we are the 'good guys'

Umm....yes, we are the good guys.
So you have a problem with the U.S. using the nukes against Japan?
So what you are saying is that you would have prefered an additional couple hundred thousand U.S. and allied troops die by fighting urban warfare in order to take over Japan. Got it!
Look, the use of the nukes were warranted because of all the U.S. and allied forces lives which were saved. Just as many civilians would have died if we would have had to carpet bomb Japan and fight city by city.


Either Nukes are acceptable in war or they are not. If they are not we should not be trying to justify our use of them. If they are we should not be trying to force other Countries to disasemble theirs. It's hard to preach the moral high ground against WMDs and then condone their usage when we use them.

[edit on 5-7-2008 by harvib]



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by harvib
Either Nukes are acceptable in war or they are not. If they are not we should not be trying to justify our use of them. If they are we should not be trying to force other Countries to disasemble theirs. It's hard to preach the moral high ground against WMDs and then condone their usage when we use them.

Not quite right.
Look at it like the laws for gun control. Before someone can purchase a gun they must have their background checked because we don't want lunatics and felons getting guns legally. The same applies to nukes. We don't want lunatics like the government of Iran to have nukes because they will use them as a first strike weapon and to blackmail their neighbors. This is why most other countries in that region are dead set against Iran getting nukes.



posted on Jul, 5 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by harvib

Look at it like the laws for gun control. Before someone can purchase a gun they must have their background checked because we don't want lunatics and felons getting guns legally.


no, the lunatics and felons will get them illegally leaving those good citizens waiting to get their background checks finished unarmed to protect themselves against the lunatics and felons. you are easily flawed in most of your logic and even say so openly through most your posts.

[edit on 5-7-2008 by justamomma]





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