Taking America down from the inside out: The Jihad Candidate.

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Karlhungis
There is a difference between being passionate about a subject and running propaganda. I have a hard time believing that you are not being paid to post this.


I don't believe for a second that he or anyone else here is being paid to do someone's disinformation bidding. It's just like with supposed UFO disiformation: why would the government pay someone to spread disinformation when there are idiots all too willing to do it on their own for free?




posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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Savior, have you actually SEEN Jexnet's threads?

I was starting to wonder that awhile ago. This is a large forum that ranks high in Google, and gets a ton of hits everyday, so having someone be paid to post crap like this doesn't seem that far out there.

And once again, go look at the propaganda that Jexnet HAS been posting. Almost like he's trying to capitalize on the ignorance of others...just like the Republicans are doing.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 10:04 AM
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Dude read some of this thread: Disinfo on High Traffic Websites

Specifically scroll down to where one member cuts and pasts in some companies profile which is all about "{information" operations and the like. IT is real, people are paid to do what jextnet is being accused of.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Animal]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Not as confused as you seem to be. Would you care to name the 57 Muslim states?

Let's do a bit of counting. Here is a map showing the Islamic world, countries where approximately 50% or more of the populace call themselves Muslim:



I can't name them by memory, but I'm sure Barack Hussein Obama can, because of the schooling he received when he was younger..

but here is the list....

en.wikipedia.org...


The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It groups 57 Islamic member states



Country Joined Notes
Afghanistan, Islamic Republic of 1969 Suspended 1980 - March 1989
Algeria, People's Democratic Republic of 1969
Chad, Republic of 1969
Egypt, Arab Republic of 1969 Suspended May 1979 - March 1984
Guinea, Republic of 1969
Indonesia, Republic of 1969
Iran, Islamic Republic of 1969
Jordan, Hashemite Kingdom of 1969
Kuwait, State of 1969
Lebanon, Republic of 1969
Libya, Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 1969
Malaysia 1969
Mali, Republic of 1969
Mauritania, Islamic Republic of 1969
Morocco, Kingdom of 1969
Niger, Republic of 1969
Pakistan, Islamic Republic of 1969
Palestine, represented by the Palestine Liberation Organization 1969
Saudi Arabia, Kingdom of 1969
Senegal, Republic of 1969
Sudan, Republic of the 1969
Somalia 1969
Tunisia, Republic of 1969
Turkey, Republic of 1969
Yemen Arab Republic 1969 From 1990 as Republic of Yemen united with People's Democratic Republic of Yemen
Bahrain, State of 1970
Oman, Sultanate of 1970
Qatar, State of 1970
Syrian Arab Republic 1970
United Arab Emirates, State of 1970
Sierra Leone, Republic of 1972
Bangladesh, People's Republic of 1974
Gabon, Republic of 1974
Gambia, Republic of the 1974
Guinea-Bissau, Republic of 1974
Uganda, Republic of 1974
Burkina Faso 1975
Cameroon, Republic of 1975
Comoros, Federal Islamic Republic of the 1976
Iraq, Republic of 1976
Maldives, Republic of 1976
Djibouti, Republic of 1978
Benin, Republic of 1982
Brunei Darussalam, Sultanate of 1984
Nigeria, Federal Republic of 1986
Azerbaijan, Republic of 1991
Albania, Republic of 1992
Kyrgyzstan, Republic of 1992
Tajikistan, Republic of 1992
Turkmenistan, Republic of 1992
Zanzibar January 1993 Withdrew August 1993
Mozambique, Republic of 1994
Kazakhstan, Republic of 1995
Uzbekistan, Republic of 1995
Suriname, Republic of 1996
Togo, Republic of 1997
Guyana, Republic of 1998
Côte d'Ivoire, Republic of 2001
Suspended or Withdrawn
Zanzibar Jan 1993 Withdrew August 1993
Observer States
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1994
Central African Republic 1997
Northern Cyprus (as 'Turkish Cypriot State' under sovereignty of Cyprus) 1979 Official 2004
Thailand, Kingdom of 1998
Russian Federation 2005
Observer Muslim Organizations and Communities
Moro National Liberation Front 1977
Observer Islamic institutions
Parliamentary Union of the OIC Member States 2000
Islamic Conference Youth Forum for Dialogue and Cooperation 2005
Observer International Organizations
League of Arab States 1975
United Nations 1976
Non-Aligned Movement 1977
Organization of African Unity 1977
Economic Cooperation Organization 1995


Now can you see why Hussein Obama confused the United States and the Islamic States?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:35 AM
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Personally I think he meant to say "47" States, as he was also noting the States he had to omit visiting but I can see how someone bent on believing Obama is the front man for an Islamic conspiracy to take over the USA would automatically assume he was referring to the Islamic 57.

"I have been to 57 (47) with one left to go, I have not been to Alaska or Hawaii because my staff would not justify it". link

So lets see, Alaska + Hawaii + "one more to go" = 3.

USA is 50 states - Obama's 3 = 47 (57).

See what I am getting at. We ALL make mistakes. We all say things inaccurately sometimes without even realizing it. These guys running for president are on camera 24 hours a day 6.5 days a week. If you think that they should NEVER slip up and say something stupid your not paying attention to the fact they are human.

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Animal
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See what I am getting at. We ALL make mistakes. We all say things inaccurately sometimes without even realizing it. These guys running for president are on camera 24 hours a day 6.5 days a week. If you think that they should NEVER slip up and say something stupid your not paying attention to the fact they are human.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Animal]


Mistakes like this are overlooked if you are a Democrat, but all hell breaks loose if you make a similar mistake if you are a Republican. Just ask Dan Quayle.

But the fact is Obama said he visited all 57 States. We just assume he made an innocent mistake. But considering his upbringing, and the fact there are 57 Islamic States, maybe he visited all 57 Islamic States to get his marching orders for his secret jihad? Now that is what I call a conspiracy theory!!!



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative

Maybe he visited all 57 Islamic States to get his marching orders for his secret jihad? Now that is what I call a conspiracy theory!!!



You call it a Conspiracy Theory, I call it a Slippery Slope.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Animal]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 12:23 PM
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It's things like this that make me crack up laughing, that how some people can take the most insignificant of things and blow it up WAY out of proportion.

Perhaps one day in the future, we'll have a perfect android president incapable of mistakes or slip of the tongue.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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All I'm doing is taking 2+2 and getting 4. Isn't this the way Conspiracy Theories get started? 9/11 Truthers out there, you know what I am talking about.

How many would agree that the United States of America has 50 States?

How many would agree that there are 57 Islamic States?

Obama stated himself that he has visited all 57 States. My question to Obama, or his supporters, is what States was he talking about? He did not specify.

Don't give me the "tired" angle, I could stay away for 48 hours and I would know that there is 50 States in the United States of America. Some things you just don't mess up, but if you were indoctrinated in your youth, and learned that there is 57 Islamic states, the keyword "states" could throw you off. Which could of been the case with Obama.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 01:01 PM
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Don't give me the "tired" angle, I could stay away for 48 hours and I would know that there is 50 States in the United States of America. Some things you just don't mess up


Firstly, I don't think it's a matter of not knowing, but more a matter of a slip up.

Second, I don't think you've a very strong stance if your position rests upon 'some things you just don't mess up'.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
But the fact is Obama said he visited all 57 States. We just assume he made an innocent mistake. But considering his upbringing, and the fact there are 57 Islamic States, maybe he visited all 57 Islamic States to get his marching orders for his secret jihad? Now that is what I call a conspiracy theory!!!


Now that's what I call stupid!

Using the logic you are employing, Obama was being literal and not making a mistake when he said "57 states." But he also said he had more states to visit, Hawaii and Alaska. So, using your logic, he thinks there are either 59 or 60 states.

And don't you think if he did that much travelling, someone would notice? You don't think that McCain or Clinton would have already made an issue of it?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by jetxnet
From that attacks on 9/11 by Muslim Radicals to an almost obvious Muslim Candidiate


So do tell us, how is he a Muslim?

Surely, people aren't ignorant enough to think he's Muslim just because of his name, or are they?

I'm happy you posted from a non-biased source too. No website can be as credible on terrorism than don'tvoteobama.net.


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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Obama stated himself that he has visited all 57 States. My question to Obama, or his supporters, is what States was he talking about? He did not specify.


Would this help?

www.snopes.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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Sounds good to me.
How many non-Muslim people have Muslim names?
Did you know it is an offense, deserving of death, to convert away from Islam?
But, it is permitted by the Prophet to pretend to be Christian, in order to infiltrate the enemy, to bring them down.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by jmdewey60]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah

Originally posted by RRconservative
Obama stated himself that he has visited all 57 States. My question to Obama, or his supporters, is what States was he talking about? He did not specify.


Would this help?

www.snopes.com...



You got me! You pulled out the equivalent of "Popular Mechanics" on me.

I could have went on and on with this like the 9/11 truthers do, but when you have a source this huge that debunks the conspiracy, it's pretty much over. I just wish the 9/11 Truthers would be as big as me and give it up!



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by DJMessiah
 


Did you know it is an offense, deserving of death, to convert away from Islam?
But, it is permitted by the Prophet to pretend to be Christian, in order to infiltrate the enemy, to bring them down.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by jmdewey60]


Seriously? Can you please provide a link to the information so I can read abut it for myself. I find this idea rather facinating and would love to know more. Thanks.

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
How many non-Muslim people have Muslim names?


All the Middle Easterners who are Christian or Jewish?


Did you know it is an offense, deserving of death, to convert away from Islam?


It is? Can you show us where it says this in the Quran?


But, it is permitted by the Prophet to pretend to be Christian, in order to infiltrate the enemy, to bring them down.


So you are a believer in the hadiths?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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Oh I see. When you get an answer to your question, it's ignored because you don't like to be wrong.

So which part of that article are you disputing?



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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You do not remember the man who had to hide in an embassy because of the mobs of people who were going to kill him because he converted to Christianity, while He was in England?
Christian converts are killed all the time in Muslim countries.
I can not believe you have never heard of this stuff.
I worked with an Egyptian Christian who had a vaguely Muslim sounding name but you notice he got the hell out of his country.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
You do not remember the man who had to hide in an embassy because of the mobs of people who were going to kill him because he converted to Christianity, while He was in England?


You will have to post the news article for that.


Christian converts are killed all the time in Muslim countries.


Can you show some sort of data or statistic for this? "All the time" means everyday? Can this be attributed to the works of Islam or mankind?


I worked with an Egyptian Christian who had a vaguely Muslim sounding name but you notice he got the hell out of his country.


If you're trying to make it seem like he left because he's Christian, then don't even bother. I've been to Egypt, and the Christians there are happy.





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