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Beaumont, CA Lockheed

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posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 05:08 PM
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In Beaumont, CA, Lockheed had a 9 thousand acre (potrero creek) and 2’800 acre (Laborde canyon) rocket engine site. It was in the 60’s and 70’s. In the 80’s a supposed “heavy equipment school” moved huge amounts of earth for years in this area. In the 80’s and 90’s A Westinghouse (later turned to Wyle labs) nuclear parts decontamination plant was operational at this property entrance for many years.

In the past, Beaumont was an off-road and dirt bike community. Locals have been riding out on this property for decades. There are all sorts of stories of being chased out by guards and coming upon areas planted with fake vegetation. Fields harvested then grain stored inside buildings to rot. The theory being, to keep up the look of dry farming on the surface to cover an underground facility below. Folklore or not? Anyone work for Lockheed, Ogden, Westinghouse, Wyle, or the supposed Heavy equipment school?


Entrance and coordinates here ludb.clui.org...
Entrance here

P.S. For those not familiar with the area, Lockheed sold the property in 2004 and it’s now a wildlife preserve. Wyle Labs is decommissioned. The net is full of EPA and environmental information.




posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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I once went there. I took Highland Springs Road south all of the way until I hit the dirt road then kept going until I hit the fence. Out of the blue a guy popped out of nowhere. There was no guard shack so there must be a underground sensor. He kept his hand in his pocket the whole time he talked to me. I asked him if I could ride my motorcycle there. He said no. I asked why, then he said it was a protected area (kangaroo rat). I used a psychic technique that uses God to compel him to speak the truth, then he laughed and said it was a nuclear waste facility and it would be about a year before it was moved out of the area. Later I showed up as having Gamma radiation in my space. I had tons of psychic interference later that day, so I figured whatever they are hiding must be big. It is mostly a military community. The stickers on the lower left side of the window mostly say 'SOUTHWEST NAVAL REGION'. When walking south on the street towards the place one encounters low flying white planes as they walking completely past the golf course. A license plate of one resident said something like 'GENO...' on it. Genome experimenting? I was told by one construction worker that 'everything south of the freeway is hot [radioactive]'. Someone else said it was a submarine base. Someone else said mining. The neighbor across the street has has no license plates for about 6 months. The neighbor to my left has driven a truck without license plates for years. It is a very strange area. I just saw a guy looking at a cave with binoculars one the other side of the mountain near the Soboba reservation. In the 1930's a 13 mile tunnel was dug under the mountain and water was drained out. Do you supposes they set up camp?



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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upon our arrival deep into the hills, we ended up on the other side of the entrance. we began our off roading in banning and drive for a few hours until we ended up on the other side of the highland springs entrance. we were immediately confronted by a woman with an automatic m-16 and were told to leave. the problem was that we couldn't open the gate. she refused to open it for us and told us to call the fish and game wardens. when we called we got no answer. she left and soon after, another company in black SUV's arr



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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That vegetation looks pretty real to me, your story however sounds very suspicious. Hope you get some answers...

Underground bases are all over the country, it would not surprise me.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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I should ask my daughters boyfriend,he grew up there I'm sure he would know something about it,and yes CHP will write you a ticket for off roading in Riverside Co,I was lucky and got a warning



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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cool can i reply anonymously



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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Well whatever went on out there, it looks like Lockheed is looking for some help from the government to cover cleanup costs of that exact area. According to the article I found it looks like there was some ground contamination on Lockheed's part (perchlorate and the solvent trichloroethylene).

Story is Here



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 10:30 PM
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Maybe that is the reason for fake vegitation.....maybe Lockheed knew they were going to have an environmental disaster on their hands, so when the real vegitation died off they replaced it with fake vegitation so as not to arouse suspicion. Just a thought.



posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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I grew up in cabazon ca ive been here 4 31 years i seen black suvs drive right into the mountain ive been escorted out by armd guards while having sexual relations on the hoodof my car lights flying into the mountain something is definitly in the mountain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: beaumont
Lockheed Beaumont

I was pleased to see that some Above Top Secret Fans took an interest in that area where many important rockets were developed. What exactly went on there?

The above top secret Avanti project was developed there.
www.wvi.com...

Lockheed has posted on line site maps showing what activities took place there:

Potrero Canyon site:
www.lockheedmartin.com...

LaBorde Canyon site:
www.lockheedmartin.com...

These site maps do show locations of buildings and test sites.

In my humble opinion, I believe that there were
NO LARGE SCALE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES BUILT AT LOCKHEED PROPULSION COMPANY’S LABORDE CANYON AND POTRERO CANYON FACILITIES near Beaumont, California, (other than tunnels built into hillsides for testing rocket engines). I have made my points below to support my opinion.

FACT #1
In the 1930’s the Metropolitan Water District (MWD) drilled a tunnel under the mountains where Lockheed sites are located. MWD tunnel was flooded because that mountain is full of underground water feeding Eden Hot Springs, Gillman Hot Springs and Soboba Hot Sprigs. The water was pumped out and the tunnel is used as an aqueduct today. Since this information is well known and documented (wikipedia), do you think it is likely that geologists and civil engineers would have picked this location for an underground facility?

FACT #2
The most important reason why I believe there is no secret underground facility there is because planners of secret underground facilities would have considered LaBorde & Potrero TOO CLOSE TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE A SECRET FACILITY. The City of Beaumont comes close to the north side of the Potrero site at the end of Highland Springs Avenue. Off roaders ride all over this property. That is why these sites were abandoned for secret tests and the testing was done further out on military reservations. How do you think an increase in traffic from men and material to build and operate an underground facility there would NOT be noticed coming up and down Highland Springs Rd?

FACT #3
Lockheed would not have sold these facilities if there were under ground facilities there.

LaBorde Canyon site was sold to Riverside County and it may be used as an area for riding off road vehicles in the future.

Potrero site was sold to the State of California may be used as a wild life reserve in the future.

Whoever holds title to land, owns it to the center of the earth (according to real estate law).

There are no security guards there to chase people off the property. It may be illegal, but off-road vehicles roam these lands. You can now see for yourself what is up there (if you dare).

Respectfully submitted
Rich Powers



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 03:18 AM
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The maps could be better. Basically we're talking 33.856858 -116.968722.



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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ra reply to: beaumont
Above Top Secret Fans may want to know more about what went on at Lockheed's Redlands, Potrero, and LaBorde sites and how a recent (2014) court decision effects the way Lockheed-Martin will be repaid for those clean up costs.
The following is a cut and paste from
www.courtlistener.com...

LPC began its rocket motor production operations at the nearly 500-acre Redlands

facility in 1954 when it leased the facility from the City of Redlands. (USX15; see also




7
USX11.0020-21.) Between 1958 and 1962, LPC acquired the parcels comprising the much-

larger 9,100-acre Potrero Canyon and 2,500-acre LaBorde Canyon facilities located near

Beaumont, California. (USX12.0044.)3 Lockheed researched and manufactured solid propellant

rockets at the Redlands facility from 1954 to 1975. (USX11.0018-20.) LPC used the Potrero

Canyon facility for manufacturing solid propellant rockets, testing rocket motors, and washing

out defective rocket motors for re-use from 1958 to 1974. (Sterrett Decl. ¶ 213; USX12.0046.)

LPC used the LaBorde Canyon facility for assembling small rocket motors, testing rocket

motors, and washing out defective motors for reuse from 1958 to 1974. (Sterrett Decl. ¶ 214;

USX13.0011-12.)

If you have time to read the first part of this case, you will find more information on how the rockets were made.

We want to give thanks to the people, the engineers, technicians, and support staff for pushing through these (then) cutting edge projects very quickly.

Humbly Submitted
Rich Powers and friends



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 12:04 PM
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Whatever is out there is really old.
Lots of canyons in the area so its hard to tell about underground facilities.
Is this an aqua duct at 33.8579, -116.9705?

Not unusual to have secure lab sites near cities, Raytheon has quite a few and the National Ignition Facility is located near Idaho Falls.



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 08:27 PM
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Ive actually been out there a few years ago. We heard it was a good area for our 4x4 trucks, so we thought we would check it out one night. We started driving around the hills for a little bit and came across another group of offroaders. They were definitely locals, and they knew the terrain so they offered to show us around. We ended up (where I now know) is the Laborde Facility. We parked next to the Prism (Does anyone know what the Prism is?) and they showed us to the entrance of the Bunker next to the Prism (as noted on the map). We peeked in the bunker and it definitely went into the side of the hill. There were old smashed up electronic equipment on the walls. It looked pretty vandalized from the locals. I was tempted to go in, but I didn't trust going in there with people we just met, in the middle of the night. Right after that we found a paved road and drove out of the area.

On our way out there, we saw a couple parked cars in different places. It looked like locals would just go back there to use drugs. When we got home, I looked it up and found out it was an old Lockheed facility, but didn't find much other info about it. Thanks for the links Rich, it was interesting.

It was a cool facility to see, but I doubt there's anything really interesting going on underground. I doubt an abandoned secret facility would be that easy to access. It would be cool to go back during the day time to check it out, but after reading about how contaminated it is, I might think twice about it.



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: beaumont
Want to see some photos of Lockheed Laborde Canyon Site taken recently after Lockheed removed all their stuff?
www.lockheedmartin.com...



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: beaumont

Video of Black Bird LCO killed attempting to launch the D-21 Recon Drone.
We must appreciate that this man give his life in service for our country.
We now understand the risks our test pilots face.

www.wvi.com...

After Gary Powers, Lockheed U-2, spy plane was shot down, over the USSR, in 1960, the CIA funded the Lockheed D-21 (unmanned) drone for spy missions.

The Lockheed D-21 recon drone had a ram jet engine that needed to start at high speed. The ram jet could power the D-21 for almost 3,000 miles while to took recon photos over enemy territory. Lockheed built special Black Birds to take the D-21 to speeds fast enough for the ram jet engine to start. However, this was dangerous for the two pilots of the Black Birds, because if something went wrong there could be a catastrophic event killing the pilot(s).

What was the above top secret Avanti project at Lockheed Propulsion Company's (LPC) Potrero Canyon Site near Beaumont Californa?

Kelly Johnson, Lockheed Skunk Works Chief Engineer, decided that it was too dangerous to launch the D-21 from a Black Bird. He came up with a plan to equip B-52 bombers to carry the D-21(s) under each wing and launch them from there. In order to do this, LPC was given the contract to build a rocket specially designed to accelerate the D-21 fast enough to start the ramjet. This was called the Avanti Project (aka Tag Board) and it was carried out at LPC's Potrero Canyon Site, near Beaumont, California. Avanti was challenging, because a rocket had to be designed to propel a craft that was already existing, the D-21. Our engineers, back in the 60's, were only armed with slide rules (no desk top computers), and they managed to pull off this project. Now, maybe, we can understand that important, above top secret, projects did occur at that site.

We have the rare photos of building and test firing (what a blast) the rocket to power the D-21B at the Lockheed Propulsion Company, Potrero Canyon Site, Beaumont, California:
www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/AIAA-2007-576120%Header%20%20Copyright.pdf

Would you like to see all kinds of pictures of the D21-B? Check this out:
Google: Flickr Hive Mind.net/tags/d-21

We hope that these photos will help those of you, who lived around Beaumont and San Jacinto, understand that really important projects were being carried out up in those mysterious sites in the mountains so close to us, and we wanted to know what went on up there.

There is another Lockheed Propulsion Company Site called the, Gate Way Site, 160 acre, square parcel, exactly at an exit of the 60 Freeway on the side and just north of the LaBorde Canyon Site. Lockheed sold this site to a private entity. Could they enter LaBorde through that site? Do any of you know what they did there? Please let us know.

Where, exactly, on these properties did Wyle Labs have their radio active decontamination site? What years was it active, what happened to the radioactive waste? What happened to the building?

We want to thank those of you who described your visit to the LaBorde Canyon Site. Every little bit helps. We used to go off road in that area, but back in those days, Lockheed had NO NONSENSE SECURITY, and they kept us far away from those sites.

I am curious about the Prism. It looks like a HUGE pile of dirt and is called Stock Pile in a photo in a Tetra Tech LaBorde site clean up report. Stock Pile...Hmmm, stockpile of what? I did not see an entrance to the Prism, did you see an entrance when were there in person? I am searching the web. Inquiring minds want to know. We want to hear from more of you that have FACTS to share about those sites. Thanks So Much!

Respectfully Submitted For All To Enjoy,
Rich Powers and Friends



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: richpowers
The Black Bird launching the D-21 accident video did not open.

To see the video Try to cut and paste this website:

www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/MD21_accident.mpg

We hope that will open the video for you.

Rich Powers and Friends



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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The Gate Way Site was 160 acres just north of the LaBorde Canyon Site. Lockheed Propulsion Company purchased the Gateway Site to gain access from the 60 Freeway into the LaBorde Canyon Site.

Ref: Google: Lockheed Martin Beaumont California Gateway Site

Rich



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:39 AM
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The PRISM, located at Lockheed Rocket Company, Site 2, LaBorde Canyon, near Beaumont, California, was a huge earthen mound build and used by General Dynamics to test radar.

The Centrifuge was used to test rocket motors to see if the propellant would come apart during flight.

The Conditioning champers were used to heat or chill the rocket motors prior to being fired in the test bays to see the effects of extreme heat or cold on the test firing of the rocket engines.

The test bays were surrounded by earthen mounds to protect the surroundings in case of a catastrophic explosion during rocket testing.

The following is cut and pasted from a clean up report at the site:
www.lockheedmartin.com... df

Historical Operational Area K (Area K) – Test Bays and Miscellaneous Facilities
The primary features included a large earthen stru cture known as the “Prism,” conditioning chambers, a
centrifuge, and four test bays and two associated bunkers.
The Prism was reportedly built between 1984 and 1990 and was used to test radar by General Dynamics
(Tetra Tech, 2007a). Details concerni ng construction of the Prism are not available, but it appears to have
been constructed with soils from near the test bays.
The conditioning chambers were used to examine the effects of extreme temperatures on rocket motors
and to meet specification requirements (Radian, 19 86a). A centrifuge was located in the northwestern
portion of Area K, where rocket motors were tested in order to determine if the solid propellant would
separate from its casing under increased gravitational forces.
Previously, only three test bays were known; ho wever, a former employee reported during a recent
interview that a fourth test bay [located north of the other three bays] w as also previously used in Area K.
The initial testing activities had a history of explosions that destroyed complete test areas, especially
during the period when GCR operated at the Site (Radia n, 1986a). While vestiges from three test bays are
currently visible at the Site, the fourth was reportedly destroyed by such an explosion during testing. Also
reportedly, after motor failure, the area was checked to recover unburned propellant.

We hope this helps to understand what the structures were used for.

All the Best to You
Rich Powers and Friends



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: richpowers
The link to the PRISM info failed to get me there so, I suggest you Google this:
Supplemental Site Characterization Report
Former Liquid Waste Discharge Ponds
and Southern Property Boundary
Lockheed Martin Corporation, Beaumont Site 2
Beaumont, California

Happy web surfing.

Rich



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