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# What Are The Chances You Will Read This?

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posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:53 AM
When it comes to being born are you referring to the sperm cells that don't make it?
If not I have no idea what you are talking about.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:26 AM
Why do I have a feeling this was nothing but a ploy to get more stars and flags?

Good job OP, your plan worked!

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:53 AM
Interesting thread. My story is this: One day, I was on the internet. I was looking for documents of a certain type, so I thought... "What is higher than top secret? Abovetopsecret!" So, i typed that into the address bar of my browser, and voila! Here I am. Curiosity brought me here. What are the chances of finding ATS that way? Glad I did.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 11:56 AM
Hmmm I don't know why I have read this.
I think because of the headline...
Well I don't understand what you mean with this

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 12:53 PM
reply to post by Buck Division

Dumbest thread I have read in a while. Pulls stats outa your back side and I am not sure, but I suppose they where supposed to mean something.

No flag for you.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 02:43 PM

Dumbest thread I have read in a while. Pulls stats outa your back side and I am not sure, but I suppose they where supposed to mean something. No flag for you.

(Dumbest thread ever.) I must admit I spent less time on this thread than I should have, given the amount of unexpected responses. Go figure.

(Pulling stats from nowhere.) I explained a bit earlier about the statistics, and where I got them. They are certainly open for discussion, but I can defend most of them (except for the chances of you being born. See my response below.)

(Suppose to mean something.) Probability is just the number of opportunities to achieve a particular outcome, divided by the total number of possible outcomes. So when I say there was one chance in 10 to the 300th power of you reading this, I was saying there existed an incredible number of alternatives to me being here to write this, you being here to read this, and you actually reading this (especially using the beginning of life on this planet as a starting reference!)

(No flag for me.) That’s okay man. I really am not after stars or flags or points, really. I am much more interested in trying to achieve understanding of things. I expect you and I are the same in that respect.

Edit: This thread is suppose to make you question destiny. It was presented in a joking manner, but it is really about a very serious subject: what brings an individual to a particular moment in time? If that moment is reading this post, it seems humorous. If that moment is dying in a car crash -- it has a bit more serious nature, obviously.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Buck Division]

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 02:57 PM

When it comes to being born are you referring to the sperm cells that don't make it? If not I have no idea what you are talking about.

Excellent point, Zealott.

I was actually talking about all the events that were necessary for your conception -- as a whole -- so that includes the chances that your Mom and Dad went on their first date together (as opposed to doing something else that night) and the chance your Mom's parents and Dad's parents doing the same, etc., all the way back to the beginning of time.

But you bring up a good question: are all those things really necessary for you to be born? Perhaps these things just govern what body you inhabit, but do not necessarily affect YOU. Maybe -- you -- are more than that, and would have been born even if your parents never met!

It all goes to what is consciousness -- what are you?

Certainly, it is not a matter of a particular sperm and egg joining together. Otherwise, Monozygotic twins (identical twins) would share the same consciousness in their separate bodies. (Not the case, I don't think, but I really don't know for sure.)

If I am wrong about the above -- and that YOU are formed ONLY with a particular sperm meeting a particular egg -- well -- the odds of you being here to read this must be even MORE astronomical than before. I think.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 05:26 PM
Good old carl sagan, lol

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 07:43 PM
reply to post by Buck Division

I really don't think that this thread title would ever of produced the stats you where trying to arrive at.

Because you didn't take into account human behavior

To substantiate the supporting statistics you would of had to create a Real Thread with a Real topic and Not mentioned it was "a test" so to speak
or an observation By referring to your observations "you muddied the waters"

This thread wasn't a "total waste" because it was interesting to see how people reacted to your statistical analysis and what their responses were
in general

and I hope that your future threads garner as much attention in a positive manner
have a great day

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 05:59 AM
Another side track and empty distraction. You waste your post and all of our time. No star and flag. How does this contribute to anything?

[edit on 3-7-2008 by skyshow]

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 06:58 AM
One of the most interesting things I've read hear all week.

yep, things are looking a little bleak lately. Although the X-files cast looks to be very interesting even though I'm a very casual X-files fan.

Star and flag for you.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 09:06 AM

Originally posted by skyshow No star and flag. You sir and your worthless post, are no better than a used up wad of toilet paper. Happy? Feel proud?

Whoa.....

I would expect that after a rebuke like that; that happy and proud might take awhile.

Anyway, star and flag from me.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 09:38 AM
reply to post by Buck Division

you forgot in your calculations that the actual name of the thread is more appealing then other threads, and sparks people to want to see it more, nice thread but the world isnt based totally on numbers.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 11:06 AM

Originally posted by skyshow
No star and flag. You sir and your worthless post, are no better than a used up wad of toilet paper. Happy? Feel proud?

To answer your question, I am not happy that you missed the subtle point of this this thread. However, it appears that subtlety is not one of your majors, based on the above response.

No criticism implied by the above -- you are not alone. I would put you within one standard deviation of normal. (Just another estimate, maybe as incorrect as my original post, but I think it is probably accurate.)

If you need more explanation regarding my message here, I posted a fair explanation yesterday.

I will give YOU a star, and expect nothing in return. Keep posting my friend! Honest reactions are the best, always.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 11:17 AM
None whatsoever.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 11:21 AM
reply to post by The Utopian Penguin

I really don't think that this thread title would ever of produced the stats you where trying to arrive at. Because you didn't take into account human behavior

To substantiate the supporting statistics you would of had to create a Real Thread with a Real topic and Not mentioned it was "a test" so to speak
or an observation By referring to your observations "you muddied the waters".

I am sure you are right, Utopian. My post, and the first paragraph, had the same effect as a "Don't Look Here", thread -- it is human nature to look. I should have anticipated that (but I didn't.)

Forget the first paragraph of this post. It was really a distraction to my main message: the unlikelihood of arriving at a particular point in time, especially when you consider all the many branches that might have led you elsewhere. That unlikelihood is astronomically high, getting higher as you go back in time and are faced with more branches away from "now"

I've got a final idea that I'm holding back on. It may or may not be valid. I'm still thinking about it.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 01:17 PM
Is this the thread where we give away Stars and Flags? If you have any extra i could use a good star and a Flag or two. Great post OP

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 02:39 PM
What if your odds are too high?

It might be infinity-1 : 1

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 03:46 PM
It seems your social experiment has entangled me in a web of interest.

Tough im not sure what your point is so now would be a good time to spring the trap, release the gas, snipe me whatever.

posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 06:49 PM
reply to post by Buck Division

I sit perched leaning forward in my chair waiting .....

I have a tendency to see things slight differently than others sometime and
can shed light on the human behavior in efforts such as this thread
and if ever need of a loan I be happy to lend you 2cent

My U2U is alway open

Thanks for making me feel lucky

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