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reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 12:49 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Nice find, BH, i missed this one as well.

Can you hear that?

The moans from millions of McCain supporters as they are faced with the truths in Obama's speech.




oh well, they say misery love's McCain
i guess, if you subscribe to that belief, you'd be in good company with Johnny boy



reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 02:18 PM by Benevolent Heretic
You might be surprised how many of Obama's own words are in his speeches.

Meet Obama's Speechwriter


Favreau and Obama rapidly found a relatively direct way to work with each other. "What I do is to sit with him for half an hour," Favreau explains. "He talks and I type everything he says. I reshape it, I write. He writes, he reshapes it. That's how we get a
finished product.

"It's a great way to write speeches. A lot of times, you write something, you hand it in, it gets hacked by advisers, it gets to the candidate and then it gets sent back to you. This is a much more intimate way to work."

Some speeches are much more the product of the candidate himself. Obama e-mailed Favreau his draft of his announcement speech in Springfield, Ill., at 4 a.m. on the morning of the campaign launch last February.


Lloyd, I don't know why I bother, but all that crap about Obama being reluctant to recite the pledge of allegiance or wear something as trivial as a flag pin is just that. Crap. If it's so trivial, why is it so important to you?

And saluting the flag? Only military are supposed to salute the flag! You think he should impersonate military personnel just to please the doubters? Jeez!


reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 02:37 PM by Unit541
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Thanks for the insight on the origin of his speeches. Until now, I was unaware that he was credited for any of their content. Thanks to you, he gets a little more props from me. Unfortunately, doesn't change anything for me. It doesn't change the fact that you don't get to be a senator from Illinois, especially at that age, by being Mr. Nice guy. He's got as many skeletons in his closet as any of them. Does this qualify him to be pres? No. Does "getting shot down" qualify McCain? No. However, McCain has spent more time in the bathroom than Obama has in politics. I despise Obama, almost as much as I despise McCain. Two different flavors of the same bad medicine. Good thing for me there are other choices (not that any of them will defeat these two), but unlike many here, I realize I'm not limited to Obama or McCain when it comes to voting.

In the end, however, at least Obama's speeches to have something recognizable as content, while McCains are nothing more than regurgitated rhetoric in the flavor of the month. Obama's speeches are proactive, while McCains are reactive. They're always an answer to something. Neither one will get my vote, I'll write my own name in if I have to.


reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 04:07 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by LLoyd45
It's important to me


Then why did you say it was trivial? Hey, if wearing a little bauble made in China is important to you, then vote for someone who DOES wear it. LOL

John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee don't wear them either!



But if that's how you show your patriotism, then carry on.


In school, when most of us were growing up, we placed our hand over our heart during the Pledge of Allegiance as a gesture of respect to our country.


So does he. The picture you're referring to was taken during the National Anthem, not the pledge! LOL You KNOW this stuff. You've SEEN these things debunked, yet you keep repeating the same old tired lies like a parrot.

Read something new. Get some new material. This is boring!



reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 04:31 PM by jamie83
Yes, I am sure this is why Axelrod and Plouffe get paid the big bucks. I can only wonder if this speech will get recycled next election the way they recycled Deval Patrick's "words are important" speech.






www.akpmedia.com...


Sure, Obama gave a great "race" speech too, then turned around and talked about how "typical" white people fear blacks, and how white middle-class people in Pennsylvania won't vote for him because they're racists who cling to their guns and religion.

I would guess that Samuel L. Jackson, Danny Glover, and Denzel Washington would have had similar success with the same speeches that Obama has been reading. And I notice too that Eliot Spitzer is on this who's who list of clients, and I remember he gave some very inspiring speeches... before he was caught with a prostitute.

Sorry, but the novelty has long worn off the rhetoric and platitudes.


reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 08:46 PM by Hal9000
reply to post by yankeerose

Is anyone else having problems with this video? For me it stops at 12:28 and I can't find another full length video.

From what I saw so far, it looks like an excellent speech.

This issue about patriotism and how those like me that question our government as being labeled as unpatriotic is an issue that's dear to my heart. As Obama explained in the beginning of this speech, he views America the same way I do. I view America in the way that it should be, and not the way that others from the right are trying to turn it into and claim their ideology is what this country was founded on. You only need to read the first line of the Declaration of Independence to understand what our founding fathers meant this country to be.


reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 09:04 PM by Hal9000
reply to post by jetxnet

This is exactly what he is saying. Just because he may have had reservations, which I'm not convinced of, you want to slap on an unpatriotic label on him and his wife. You just gave the perfect example of what he was talking about. Bravo.
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