Jolting tales surface of satanic rituals

reply to post by mr-lizard

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I worship a risen Savior. I don't expect you to understand the supernatural inexplicable truth of the living God who is the great I AM.

Love the Lord your God with all your strength, with all your mind, with all your soul, and with all your might. And love each other as yourself. All war stops right then and there. Christ doesn't need man to fight on His behalf. He will return leading the host of heaven to put an end to evil once and for all.

reply to post by jmdewey60

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Yes, beware, beeeewwwaaaaarrrreee!!!!

Nothing makes me angrier than goodness, the horrible goodness. The light burns my evil flesh today but one day all the good lil Christians will be dead and gone and me and Satan can dance naked around their funeral pyres. We can defile their churches with unholy acts of S&M!! Turn their crosses upside down and trash the altar!! We can commit the worse sin imaginable, playing heavy metal way too loud!!!!!!

Are you serious?

Why am I, the Satanist, the one preaching tolerance and understanding?

reply to post by Shadowflux

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And I agree with you on this, as well. God wants us to choose Him. As the Alpha and the Omega, He already knows who will and who won't. Supernatural, inexplicable. Holy, holy, holy.

One of those religious, cultish sayings in a Satan thread? How appropriate. You know what, I think if “your” God exist the anti-Christ will be a religious figure, so many of you are stubbornly fixated on everyone else’s sins, attempting to bend the world to your will, ignoring your own lacking and persistence to spread intolerance which leads to hate.



Show me a bible quote that says smacking my man around with a whip a little is evil and then we’ll talk.

That is if like most sayings in the bible it does not latter contradict itself. Don’t even bother if it is in the Old Testament, which most Christians ignore or read selectively because it is too hard to follow and Jehovah is a lot scarier than Jesus.


[edit on 1-7-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

You aren't preaching tolerance and understanding. You are preaching your religion by insisting that it is just as good as other religions such as Christianity.

You would have to convince one to believe the dogma/doctrine of the universality of all faiths. You have not succeeded in doing that. You have merely made an assertions and expected the Christian OP to bow down. It doesn't work that way, mate.

reply to post by Icarus Rising

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Hmmm, I think your logic is lacking in that statement. How can God want us to choose Him even though he already knows who is going to choose him and who isn't. If we are either destined to choose Him or not choose Him than how is it really a choice?

I don’t support Satan. I support common sense. Sometimes I wonder how many of you Christians bother to really learn the bible, in its original form; un-tainted by men with agendas. I still don’t think the original stories are authentic; I just enjoy the tale unedited. You should try it, gives you a bigger sense of how Christians are so un-Christ like. Kind of like what Gandhi said, as did a lot of other people who were enlightened by Jesus’ teachings and not blindly domesticated by God’s supposed will.

reply to post by Pellevoisin

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My assertion was that Satanism is no less legitimate than Christianity and is deserving of the same respect afforded to any religion. Is that not tolerance and understanding?

I have not labeled one religion evil and one good, I have not said mine is the only way. I simply argued that my way is as valid as anyone else's way and to deny that would be intolerant and ignorant.

If I had to base my success in my belief system on how many people of other faiths I could convert to my way I would go crazy.

Edit to add: Perhaps you were just a bit confused. What I was teaching was equal respect of all religions, not the necessity for anyone to agree they are equal. Obviously no Christian will view Satanism as equal to their belief system but that is no excuse for not affording it the same respect you would to a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or Jew.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Shadowflux]

It isn't necessary to provide citations from scriptures to demonstrate the obscenity of what you have written. There are plenty of laws in most nations that clearly outlaw what you describe. And in some nations if you were to do that to your "man" you would wind up in prison or executed. Now if your "man" welcomed such abuse that makes no difference whatsoever in your legal culpability in most nations.

[edit on 1/7/08 by Pellevoisin]

you have to see the worldview of the people. you see with christianity there is a right and wrong. without a supreme metaphysical power, right and wrong is subjective. now we all agree unforced stuff is not ok. i can see the concern for someone who likes inflicting pain. i am not going to stop people from consensual S&M but again it would raise question certainly for me. It's a fact that torturing animals is a warning sign for a pyschopath. This organized killers like to torture their victims before they kill them and actually use some S&M techniques. now im not saying if your into S&M you are a psychopath, however I will be wary of someone who likes to inflict pain

No, that is not tolerance and understanding. That is evangelical satanism.

reply to post by Pellevoisin

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So my saying that people should respect the religious and spiritual beliefs of others is, in reality, me converting people to Satanism?

Now I'm confused, if Satan represents understanding and respect than why would I want to be a Christian?

reply to post by Icarus Rising

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I am a Christian, and I know that Lucifer is not Satan. The passage you quoted has been popularized to infer the meaning of Lucifer as Satan, but this is a relatively new invention made up by those who were looking for a way to explain why Satan doesn't show up in the Old Testament.

The reality of it is that Lucifer most likely was referring to a regional Persian King, for whom Isiah had seen a vision about. All of the scholarly evidence points towards it. As such...the "order of the morning star" is no more satanic by name alone than the Order of Delicious Waffles.

Hey Mr./Mrs. Dramatic, don't have the quote I asked for do you? I don't live in a country where two consenting adults are thrown in jail for kink. Unfortunate if you do. I'll pray for you.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

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If you are seeking contradictions, you will find them, and stop there satisfied in yourself. The OT is about the Mosaic Law, which by its very nature cannot be satisfied. Bondage to sin and death under the letter of the law. Christ is the fulfillment of the law in the spirit. The spirit of the law transcends the letter of the law. We need the Mosaic Law to prove to us that we cannot be saved by our own works. I could go on, but I get the impression you aren't interested.

I already quoted the verse in Romans which tells you what you are doing to your man with your whips and leather is not the natural use of the gift God has given you. It is up to you to decide what to do next.

reply to post by Shadowflux

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Yeah. That's what I mean by supernatural and inexplicable. It defies reason and logic, the province of man.

reply to post by Icarus Rising

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Logic isn't really the province of man, it just is. It is illogical and therefore impossible for someone to be destined to choose a certain option because the very fact of their being destined to choose that option negates the ability to choose an option.

Logic

Every once in a while, evidence of ritual sexual abuse surfaces briefly in the news. Each time it is downplayed to appear as a stand alone case.

Going back to at least ancient Greece, ruling elites have been known to engage in pederast warrior cults, which involve the ritual sexual abuse of young males. It also appears in Nazi Germany.

It's no coincidence the number of politicians that are implicated in this type of activity. These occult rituals are designed to confer some sort of power to the person. Aleister Crowley expounds on the power of sex in ritual.

Your assertion was parity between satanism and christianity which cannot be proven. It must be an article of faith that satanism and Christianity are equal sorts of religions even if it were merely a personal doctrine. However, your assertion would require the Christian to convert from their faith's precepts into believing a universality of religions which Christians do not believe. Thus, you are on a preaching mission for satan if you are wanting Christians to regard satanism as something other than the enemy faith/philosophy. If you want to preach tolerance, you are still preaching.

Why would you as a satanist want to be a Christian? You would need to believe that the christian worldview is true and that you are a condemned soul in a fallen world that can only be saved and redeemed through the life, death, and life of Jesus the Nazarene. The other possibility is that satanism is simply the wrong path for you, and should you decide that perhaps you would take a fresh look at one of the varieties of Christian religion.

Very interesting, have any links on this? Any thread links? Something I'd like to discuss more!

reply to post by Shadowflux

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Not for God it isn't. God exists outside of time and space, He created it. That is the very definition of supernatural and inexplicable, logic defied.