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posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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Hello

Just got this information in my e-mail box and want to share it with ATS.
It's mainly about disinfo agents on GLP forum and ATS!

DONT BAN ME FOR SHARING JUST A MESSENGER

Could there be any truth in this?

Abovetopsecret and Godlikeproductions have been outed for a while now as being intelligence gathering networking sites.

Basically, if you want them to know about you, post a bunch of hard core threads on those sites.

Just for using the word Tavistock you get banned from GLP (at least last time I tried).

Best to avoid those sites except for research

Public relation firm that apparently hires paid shills.
scl.cc...

PROFESSIONAL SHILLS
EMPLOYED to play at being
a number of "different"
but "agreeing" "individuals".

And TAVISTOCK gets CENSORED,
because "They" don't want folk
waking up to just how much of the
"ALTERNATIVE" 'thinking' PROMOTED on
Conspiracy 'busting' sites,
IS STRAIGHT OUT OF TAVISTOCK,
designed to send people running into
the evil arms of THE BEAST.

And some of the names associated with
with that SHILL EMPLOYING COMPANY;

SCL’s management board comprises:

Chairman Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Pattie PC,

Chief Executive Nigel Oakes,


Directors -

Alex Oakes and

Alexander Nix,


and advisory board members

Rear Admiral John Tolhurst CB,

Peter Varnish OBE,

Dr Andrew Stewart,

Lord Birdwood and

Lord Ivar Mountbatten.

Ring far too familier bells!!!!!


Alex Oakes
Director

Alex Oakes was educated at
Eton College,
Brookes University,
Oxford and
the Chartered Institute of Marketing
before moving to Hong Kong
to work with Cazenove & Co in 1992.

In 1994 he was offered the opportunity to join Drax Myanmar Ltd,
an enterprising new venture in Burma, as Operations Director.

In 1998, he joined Nigel, his brother,
in Strategic Communication Laboratories,
where he was responsible for coordinating many of the longer-term projects.

In 2003 Alex established The Diagnostic Clinic

with ex-Orange Founder Hans Snook

to introduce a one-stop diagnostic facility to London.

and more such 'enlightening' profiles here;
www.scl.cc...

So why, just hours after posting my best thread ever, did "Springer" one of the site owners, ban me and my IP from ever posting on ATS again? The reason is my information is far too powerful and influential to allow the masses to get ahold of. Here is the thread I posted that got me banned - "The Will I Am Legend" a post exposing Freemasonry in Hollywood. I was "Freight Tomsen" the OP.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You'll notice that they deleted my opening two posts and many subsequent posts claiming "Meta-tag spamming" which is completely false/unfounded. Springer gave me 5 unwarranted "warnings" regarding some random month-old posts, removed my avatar, moved my thread to "Skunk Works" then banned me from ever posting again without giving so much as an explanation.

Yesterday I made a new Screen Name from a different IP to post my new FREE book, "Famous Freemasons Exposed." My thread was deleted and my new Screen Name was banned within 5 minutes! Why do you suppose Springer and "the Three Amigos" (the site owners' Masonic name for themselves) don't want me on ATS? If they created ATS as a place for conspiracy theorists/researchers like myself to network with others, then why I am repeatedly banned for posting excellent material?

If you have spent any time on ATS (abovetopsecret.com) especially in their "Secret Societies" forum, you will notice that there is a troop of Masons (much like Digg.com's Bury Brigade) who are online ALL day EVERY day. Many of them openly admit to being Masons. Even many of the Site Moderators like Mirthful Me, Skyfloating, and other popular ATS names admit to being Masons! Not only this but they are perpetually online 1) providing a "benevolent"/open face for their secret society, and 2) constantly defending government/establishment positions and their "Brotherhood." I can tell you if I owned ATS, I would not have a troop of admitted Mason Moderators running things - any conspiracy researcher will tell you that Freemasonry is one of the biggest vehicles in implementing the New World Order conspiracy!

whats going on....any truth in this?




posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 05:43 AM
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Seems like whoever sent that email has his own agenda at work here.


I suppose his claims will be either validated or debunked based on wheather this thread gets deleted or not, as well as any subsequent responses to his claims by ownership or staff.

Looking forward to reading the replies to follow.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 05:44 AM
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Most of us who are seasoned CT'ers already know this..

Hang around the 9/11 forums and you see alot of this...

Anyway.....



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 05:58 AM
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Well if there was ever a doubt as to wheather or not there really are companies out there being paid to spread disinfo, visiting this company SCL's website will put all of your fears and worries to rest.


They appear to be very real.

Something I have long suspected but never seen confirmed. Explains an awful lot.

Paid liars who work for the highest bidder, in a time where information and public opinion is critical. This type of thing should be illegal



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by BlackOps719
Paid liars who work for the highest bidder, in a time where information and public opinion is critical. This type of thing should be illegal


You like when your sheep follow the group or stray off and do their own thing??

these people are the cattle prods to keep those who want to go another direction in the group..

Those of us who stray off in the end will get shot.

[edit on 7/1/2008 by ThichHeaded]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 06:23 AM
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Taken straight from the SCL site


_____________________________________________________________

Strategic Communication Laboratories (SCL) is the world’s first provider of strategic communication solutions that can change minds, reduce casualties and manage major incidents.

Our History

Formed in 1993, SCL is a successful project company with 12 years experience of managing and executing military and humanitarian strategic communication campaigns for governments worldwide.

Its customers include NGOs, police departments, military forces, municipal authorities, and the UN.

During this time the company has invested nearly $20 million into research at the Behavioural Dynamics Institute (BDi), the world’s leading authority on persuasion, communication psychology and public diplomacy. The powerful new methodologies developed from this research are proprietary to the company and have allowed SCL to help its clients achieve outstanding results through the use of strategic communications.

SCL was formed as an agency that did not rely on creativity (such as advertising) for results, but on proven scientific method. The demand for the agency grew out of the failure and frustration many clients experienced when trying to apply traditional marketing techniques to non-commercial issues, such as resolution of wars and civil strife, strike aversion, international crises and riot control.

SCL’s management board comprises: Chairman Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Pattie PC, Chief Executive Nigel Oakes, Directors - Alex Oakes and Alexander Nix, and advisory board members Rear Admiral John Tolhurst CB, Peter Varnish OBE, Dr Andrew Stewart, Lord Birdwood and Lord Ivar Mountbatten.

Funding for SCL has been provided by a number of private high net worth individuals all based in the UK.

That about says it all.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 07:54 AM
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The question now would be, how do you go about spotting one of these people in a crowded forum?


It would be easy to point to inflammatory posters who seem to openly have an agenda, but my guess is these people probably lay low and are a lot more sbtle about their business.


I always suspected that there were people, not just government workers either, who were paid to get on the web and spread disinfo in order to sway public opinion on key issues. It sort of freaks me out to have seen proof, it definately makes one question the validity of just about everything that you read on these online message boards.

I guess it shows that a lot of paranoia is justified. Wonder how many I have personally chatted with over time spent, a few in particular instantly come to mind.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:04 AM
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spotting shills isnt hard..

Like the space beam thing for 9/11 comes to mind...

On So911 forum around the same time those people were hitting up ATS about the space beam thing a admin on So911 was asking this person the science and math behind this space beam thing.

All the can say is basically its true we dont need that bla bla.. In the end the person was banned for providing dis-info.

You just goto pay attention to what people say and see if it honestly is what it seems.

If it makes no sense to you, then it probably isnt a real thing... Kinda like those Nigerian scams.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:15 AM
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If the whole human world currently functions with corrupt top down authority structures, and forums mirror that, why wouldnt there be shills and disinformation? It's completely logical and mirrors the rest of society.

There's a lot of agendas being thrown up here and a lot of career debunkers posting here. It's just more ordo ab chaos, so people really need to think for themselves and be critical of everything.

If you're looking for truth you will only find it within yourselves, sites like ATS can point you in the right direction... or make you take a wrong path.

I've been banned from online forums simply for asking for accountability for donation moneys and pointing out that there was a good possibility it was being used by disreputable individuals for perverted behaviours... and that kinda showed me how forums tend to work. Let's face it, it's hard work and there's a fair bit of grief in running a forum, so the people that do so tend to have ulterior motives. Not all of them ofc, but a fair share.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:20 AM
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Ya I have to agree with you on this..

Alot of forums today are either to far for the offical story on 9/11 or to far south.. Space beams..

I set up a forum for kicks.. so whatever happens there happens..

I dont ask for donations cause I can care less, its not like I am paying alot for the site now anyway..(No I am not rich, I consider this my community service to the world.)(Referring to So911.)

Anyway also like you stated it gets me thinking of a quote I heard a long while ago..

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." Buddha (563 B.C. - 483 B.C.)



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:53 AM
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Hi

The question now would be, how do you go about spotting one of these people in a crowded forum?


I think you can find them by following a moderator that reacts/changes/deletes a thread after some shills have been bashing your thread with only negative responses.

Nobody should be suprised about paid disinfo agents also on this forum.
That website explain it all, TAVISTOCK a research center in the UK setup at the end of last century to learn about the sheeple and what methods are better to influence their thinking, so that they follow the leader without even thinking for themselfs.




[edit on 7/1/2008 by PPLwakeUP]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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ABOUT TAVISTOCK

The brief summary is, Tavistock is the world's premiere brainwashing organization with origins in London that date at least as far back as pre-World War 1. During those formative years it was known as Wellington House - a hangout for wealthy socialists with a Fabianist flare, who sat around over tea while forming their views of a new world order agenda. Drawing from many resources, some of which had been at their disposal for decades to centuries - including early-generation "intel" operations, they built out a literal factory - or more accurately, they built out a network of networks of such factories, for creating and disseminating proganda intended to shape public opinion towards tolerance and or outright approval of their agenda. It is likely that the seeds of various historic, staged global calamities dating to much earlier times also had fingerprints all over them from the predecessors of Tavistock, in modern terms *, World War 1 can be fairly said to have been the first major trial baloon tested under the formal guidance & managment of Tavistock Institute. In other words, the genuine mass cultural friction between Germany & England necessary to trigger a war simply did not exist...... at least, it did not exist until Tavistock manufactured it....then slowly fed it into the public consciousness before ....POOF!, said friction was created out of thin air, nurtured, spread and it was not long after that the guns and bombs and death and destruction of war followed.... and in quick order the wiles & ills of this propaganda mill spread to other places abroad, including America, who quickly found themselves with fabricated incentive for sending their baby's to kill & die in this foregin war; the Lusitania. Act Two AKA WWII, althouth merely a continuation of Act 1, was in large part helped by all manner of far-flung brainwashing campaigns unfolded globe wide, to include those necessary to usher in a central Bank in U.S.A. which then effectively became a primary funding arm for future wars, depressions, and disasters worldwide. Without the Fed having been animated into existance, there is very good chance WWs I & II and Korea and Vietnam and, and, and.... would have never happened...at the least, it would not have happened on the scale that it did. Those kinds of atrocities require lots of money to make them happen, and the perpetrators - while happy to make those atrocities happen, habitually prefer to make them happen using other people's money. Without the Fed, there would not have been the massive reservoir of other people's money, called "Fed Bank U.S.A. Inc", for them to draw from to fund their global atrocities..... just goin on a hunch, I suspect the social engineers at the then-forming Tavistock Institute played a hand in the brainwashing necessary to foist the central bank as well as it's co-dependant IRS upon America.

If I remember correctly, Wellington House was an estate originally owned by a husband & wife duo of socialists - Beatrice and (...? Mister) Webb who eventually donated their property in an effort to further facilitate the future of Tavistock. Funds came various parts of the world, including the Royal Family, Rothscilds, Black Nobility / Comittee 300 to name a few. Sigmun Freud (sounds a lot like Fraud) was an integral tool recruited into Tavistock's service. Given all the pumped up public accolades and acclaim that was lavished upon him, he and his psyche-doctoring skills were a natural fit for the grand plans & designs of Tavistock. Ed Bernays - spawn of Freud (nephew), would also come to play a significant role in these plans, especially as they pertain to those that unfolded via the foreign branches of Tavistock installed in the U.S.A, to include what was one of their earliest subsidiary institutions imported into America - Stanford Research Institution.

To add some flavor from more recent times, it's been said that one of the recent Jame's Bond movie begins with scenery from within a nest of high-rise offices with shiny exterior and sitting along the Themes.... this apparently is Tavistock Central.

Given the alleged nature of this Tavistock beast, it really becomes difficult for the average person to see where staged social/cultural phenoms end and natural phenoms begin....but the general idea as I have it is, the latter does not really have much chance to occur anymore due to the worldwide proliferation of the former. Throw a dart into that wide sea of social / cultural unrest that's been ufolding the last 50 - 100 years, chances are good thta Tavistock - while not necessarily the only major player to be found, is certainly among them.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:05 AM
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I would say you are going out on a pretty thin limb here when you start accusing moderators of purposefully targeting your threads.


What can you base this on? I have seen some pretty outlandish stuff be posted on this site over the years, and aside from it being a violation of the T&C pretty much all of it has been allowed to run it's course.


I don't claim to know everything by any means, but I can say that these mods have always been pretty fair and balanced in my own personal experiences here. I can only base this on what I have seen and heard first hand.

Definately I can believe that there are posters on the general board who may be disinfo agents or may have a very set and biased agenda, but in order for me to believe that the owners and mod's on ATS are all dark conspirators that are in league with evil blood thirsty freemasons...lol....no....that is a stretch.

What would they stand to gain?

Prove me wrong.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:12 AM
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posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by BlackOps719
Paid liars who work for the highest bidder, in a time where information and public opinion is critical. This type of thing should be illegal


Oh...you mean like our current "democratic" politics? Something needs to be done.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:57 AM
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Well between this thread and the other unnamed thread popping up, it would appear as though ATS is under some sort of barrage of attacks and complaints this morning.

Looks like sour grapes if one didn't know better.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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Tavistock smuggled German Weapons through Devon to the Irish Republican Brotherhood. These weapons were use in the Easter Rising Battle.
(The Irish Republican Brotherhood was Masonic in Origin)

This allowed for the Irish to takeover the post office and free the 26 Southern counties.

Hitler got some training from Tavistock, and had a handler who helped him twice when he was "captured" running messages during the first world war;

Hitler called this person his "Angel in British Intelligence
-Likely someone he knew from Tavistock, someone he was smuggling communiques to.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by BlackOps719
Well between this thread and the other unnamed thread popping up, it would appear as though ATS is under some sort of barrage of attacks and complaints this morning.

Looks like sour grapes if one didn't know better.


Probably perpetrated by the same trolls (fake vids, ridiculous statements etc) who have been raiding the forums of late...and the motive of co-ordinated trolls is usually sour grapes.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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I found an interesting article on TAVISTOCK.




War on Terror is Elite Mind Control





It is more effective to manage society by mind control than by physical coercion.





The events of 9-11 and the "war on terror" mostly are exercises in mass brainwashing.






German psychiatrist Kurt Lewin, who became director of the elite-sponsored Tavistock Institute in 1932, developed the thinking behind 9-11. In the book "Mind Control World Control" (1997) Jim Keith writes:





"Lewin is credited with much of the original Tavistock research into mass brainwashing applying the results of repeated trauma and torture [of individuals] in mind control to society at large."


groups.google.com...

Thanks for letting know about this topic PPLwakeUP


[edit on 1-7-2008 by Grinder]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 11:34 PM
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Sometimes I post good truthful threads just to identify the people in question. They come out like little hungry animals i feed them,make them do tricks then they go back into their dens.







[edit on 1-7-2008 by IvanZana]





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