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Why do you believe in this?

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posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 07:54 PM
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As long as too many people are too comfortable with secrecy-BASED government(s) in general, all we're stuck with is beliefs and never enough facts (and all the attendant uberchaos). It's the Prime Directive (or the like). Enough people have (or at least one person has) to be against the ENTIRE concept (or effectively) of government as we know it enough and reach out to the them - the RIGHT nonhumans - in earnest. There has to be discussion of that which is never discussed on the Internet (for example).

Otherwise we have all the freewill in the universe to screw ourselves into oblivion. There's nothing resembling evidence that anything will ever be handed to us on a silver platter. So, discussions like these are a sick joke. Sorry to inadvertently troll. Arriverderci.




posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:08 PM
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Question Fate, it's not what I WANT to believe. I honestly wish aliens were here watching us. I'm just going off of the scientist in me.

Also someone mentioned Roswell. I def. agree it was a shady cover-up....but it could very well be a government experiment and not alien in origin.

People keep bringing up UFOs as though it is proof and I agree they saw a UFO. I am not denying that. I have seen some unbelievable footage myself. I just wish there was a way it could be verified as alien in origin.

Are there any documentaries out there that might be able to persuade me a bit more? Ones you suggest.

Also alienj, that is a good point about people being seen in the UFOs in depicted paintings as simply being angels described from a natural phenomenon. However, they look a little too metallic craft like. Also at around that time weren't angels being described as having wings? I will have to leave that one open for now.

I wish there was a way I could just communicate with aliens....

edit - also wouldn't it be possible that said aliens could be coming from earth as it is? Wouldn't that explain any USO phenomena?

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Soulstone]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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THERE WILL BE NO PROOF EVER, if the government was to ever allow us to have full blown evidence of the exixtence of Aliens that are living on and regularly visiting our planet think about the consequences.

They have carefully analyzed the situation and our world as we know it would go ape shiit, people would lose control and go crazy and many would lose faith in God the truth is probably that we were created by them and we are a slave race to them but how would that take effect on us if we all knew it?

Nobody would want to live that perfect little life they have been used to, people may just give up, no more ten commandments.



[edit on 1-7-2008 by ET_CONTACT]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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It was a military officer who was present at the crash that told reporters the US government had recovered a strange craft with two deceeased occupants.

He also stated that the occupants were not human, but were humanoid in appearance.

Sadly though, that same official was forced to say that he made a mistake and the "craft" was only a weather balloon.

The only reason he told reporters the truth originally was because he did not know that he wasn't suppose to.

That is proof enough for me.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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Humans have a section of their brain dedicated to religion, it lights up when they think about God etc. It's probably required for survival and a product of evolution. Unfortunately it's been used to control others for eons.

The whole UFO thing must be good for people in power doing shady things nowdays, if I were them I would purpetrate and encourage more UFO BS.
It's a perfect cover for black ops and in keeping "out of the box" thinkers attention directed elsewhere.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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I agree entirely with the OP! Glad he made thread

Millions of UFO sightings and most of you jump to the conclusion they are ET

Yet military always keep latest and important developments secret. It would be utter madness not too!!!

-Nazi Germany were (FACT!!!!) experiementing with flying saucers in WWII...70years ago when others had only recently managed to invent the jet engine!!!

-Tesla had seriously contemplated it many decades before! and his papers were confiscated by US govt, still top secret.

WHY can't they UFO's all be ours? Ie Human developed???

The 1,000's + threads on here with you lot talking about "Grays" and "Reptilians" and "Peladians" etc etc as if it were some sort of established fact?? Yet the loonies promoting it even those claiming eye witness, cannot provide even a fragment of proof!

Does anyone after all the years this site has been here....have any of you got or seen solid proof of ET here on earth?


but if it is all ... fantasy for fun!... carry on!




posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:40 PM
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Well said.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by alienj
reply to post by GorehoundLarry
 


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Did I confuse you?



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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WHY can't they UFO's all be ours? Ie Human developed???

You need to do your homework, there are many many witnesses out there that have come forward from the military. Some of them in the highest positions, there are also many who have come forward and talked about viewing extraterrestrial craft and being assigned to try and reverse-engineer them. Clearly you have not done your homework and are just rambling away on the subject!



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by ET_CONTACT
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WHY can't they UFO's all be ours? Ie Human developed???

You need to do your homework, there are many many witnesses out there that have come forward from the military. Some of them in the highest positions, there are also many who have come forward and talked about viewing extraterrestrial craft and being assigned to try and reverse-engineer them. Clearly you have not done your homework and are just rambling away on the subject!


Or more probably they're hopping on the money train. Or perhaps want to be acknowledged or are just lying. Then there are of course crazy people. Money train I say. If you want to take what people say is real, that's your call. I just choose to not have blind faith.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Soulstone]

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Soulstone]



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:14 PM
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ever since the beginning of time when man has observed the skies.ufo's have been on countless things since then.from caveman drawing inside caves to paintings from painters.even Nostradamus had seen Ufo's and even said that he has seen Aliens that are non human.even made a prophecy about ufo's and aliens.the belief of ufo's and aliens has been going on since humans have been here.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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I have not seen any proof of aliens or ufo's. because somebody wrote a book, that is proof? All I have seen in all my life is blurry pictures that could be anything? I have not seen one clear picture, especially with all the digital cameras that are in the world that can take phenomenal pictures! Of course over the years I have seen certain object that I cannot explain, but I will keep an open mind. As far as the large headed aliens with big eyes and three fingers plus thumb, how could they build such intricate space ships with the missing digits,plus if the eyes are so large that would mean that they live in the dark!
I keep reading "here is the proof! (Just read this article etc!) Anarticale or book is not proof.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Has2b[/i



The 1,000's + threads on here with you lot talking about "Grays" and "Reptilians" and "Peladians" etc etc as if it were some sort of established fact?? Yet the loonies promoting it even those claiming eye witness, cannot provide even a fragment of proof!

Does anyone after all the years this site has been here....have any of you got or seen solid proof of ET here on earth?




the last time i looked this forum is to discuss and exchange ideas, not indiscriminately class everyone and make allegations to their mental state because they have a different belief or point of view;

there are many of us here that have our own reasons and free choice and free will to seek and choose what we believe,

many of us that have had personal experiences that motivate us to research and find our own answers, and if we do choose to share our experiences with the forum there is always a hoard of debunkers ready to form the mob and howl; a true skeptic keeps an open mind and closely examines all the info available, leaving the possibility open that perhaps there is something substantial to be found or new information to be gained, a new insight or new proof for either side;

however, of late, far too many are standing with the hoax hammer in hand ready to descend on anything that does not meet with their accepted paradigm, therefore instead of denying ignorance they are perpetuating their own person brand of it for they already know all the answers;

well,i, for one, do not have all the answers, and actively seek new knowledge and insight and use my personal set of values and intellect to decide for myself and myself alone, not to promote and insist that all should view the world as i do, for they cannot, they haven't had my experiences and fields of endeavor, my reasoning or insight.

perhaps we are being cautiously or surreptiously visited by alien beings; perhaps a large number of sightings are of black ops and experimental craft; perhaps we are a private zoo for their entertainment;one day we might know beyond a shadow of a doubt; until then each of us has to make our own decisions and form our own opinions; but do it in a kindly and courteous manner befitting the dignity of all,which a large number seem to be lacking. for i daresay that if most people were to see an extra-terrestial they wouldn't believe it unless they killed and dissected it on the living room floor.

seeker



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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Yeah that part I didn't agree with in what Has 2 b said.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 09:32 PM
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"The evidence that the planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacrcraft is overwhelming. In other words, some UFOs are ET spacecraft. Most are not- I dont care about those."

-Stanton Friedman MSc

I like the cut of his jib.



posted on Jul, 1 2008 @ 11:18 PM
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Not all of these ufos are of alien E.T. origin but some are and most are the governments. These ufos have been around before our recorded time and paintings and the evidence is everywhere and this thread could go on and on. There has been many paintings before I've even found one on the internet where there are two in the background where Jesus was crucified.
But anyways, If you study it enough you will know and you can believe what you want to believe.

There is very little footage of real aliens but there is. All the reports and evidence is out there.



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 01:06 AM
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Why do I believe? Ever since I was 13 or whenever the X-Files came out(im 21 now 22 in 22days). Ever since I saw the poster on Mulders wall. i have been entranced in researching as much as I can about UFO's. I am sorry but it is what did it for me and I actually have a copy and then some of that poster in my room.

"I WANT TO BELIEVE!"



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 08:57 AM
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Everything you posted is complete BS. There is no proof anywhere around you of aliens currently visiting or visiting us in the past. There is none. Ask anyone to provide it, and they cannot. All they can provide are fake videos and fictional papers written by men with great imaginations, or complete hoaxers like John Lear who claim things and never have any evidence to back themselves up.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by rocksarerocks]



posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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I think some of the videos of UFOs on here are legit and seem to move beyond our current capabilities, though that could still be government oriented. John Lear does seem to base a career off speculation, however. That would never be a line of work I am interested in, for that reason.



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