I'm not afraid of them ... I just don't want to think about those hose lookin' anal probes, like the ones they used in the movie "Communion".

The alien possesses powers to extract your conscious state from the corporeal state Into the ethereal state. Here you are no longer a physical form but continue to experience the physical realm realities outside the corporal space time where you are totally unaware of your translation. You have sensual awareness as they perform procedures on your conscious form, the experience and procedural acts return with you to the physical realm.

You may say you will kick there big heads in, but really they have you in there power and your mind is incapable of manifesting actionable remedy until they let you go. They will take children in physical form since a child is easier to control as a physical entity. Pre-teens and adults are extracted as written at the top of this post.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
Paul, I understand how your trying to reason it all out in your head to make sense of how the grays run the so called business but for the record:

Out of the large majority of abduction cases and on-going abduction cases including military officials that have come forward that have worked with the grays and know what capabilities they have, they have all stated that the grays have the capabilities that I have listed above.

I am not the only one who has seen through Reticulan propaganda, nor do I have any special talents in defense.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
Bob Lazar has other stories he shared with me as well when I met with him and John Lear a while back but I don’t believe he has put them on a website because they were personal and private experiences, he had direct contact with the grays!

That's all well and nice but I have yet to see anywhere him stating or saying what you believe.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
I wish I could agree with you that the grays are nothing more than weak dummies with laser beams but I can't.

That is not what I have stated.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
If your philosophy is true,

Grays have only beam paralysis capability,

And advanced lasers, and anti-gravity beams, and other energy projection weapons, as well as antimatter devices.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
They go after the weak,

Generally, yes. They go after the best risks.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
They pick locks and drag people out of bed,
They drug people,
They can easily be killed with a gun,

All quite true. Reticulans are not bullet proof, nor do they have shielding capability.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
Out of all the abduction cases don't you think many would have killed or at least captured a few of them by now?

And you know for the fact that the above never happened?

Originally posted by Alien_Question
If the only threatening weapon they have is a paralysis stun gun or laser beam then wouldn't they be nothing less to us than your average Joe criminal breaking into a house?

They have more than that.

But they are hardly light beings with god powers.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
How in the world could they last as long as they have with just a laser beam?

And where do I state that they have just a laser beam?

Originally posted by Alien_Question
If the grays are as you say don't you think the militaries of the world would have them under control by now?

You are a poor military analyst.

No, it does not point to that and you apparently didn't read my posts at length.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm reasoning with you and trying to see where your coming from when you believe that their only power is a laser beam and memory implant?

And where do I state that?

Originally posted by Alien_Question
So your basically saying all of these people in the thousands with legitimate abduction cases have all been memory implanted to believing that the grays have special technology and skills when in fact they do not?

DING...DING...DING

BINGO

Originally posted by Alien_Question
All of their original experiences were changed from them being drugged, dragged out of bed to telepathic paralysis, floating through walls into a spaceship etc?

Correct.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
I know it’s easier for us humans to reason like you are because it makes sense and sounds more believable that they broke in our front door, drugged us and dragged us out of bed but we are talking about an ET group from another star system millions of light years away!
(Far more advanced than anything we can even comprehend!)

More like projected the paralysis beams first, then picked the lock(s), then dragged their victims into their spacecraft.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
Do you think all of the military officials that work with the grays have been brainwashed by them as well? But how did they do it with just laser beams if that‘s all they have? I'm trying to understand your reasoning here!

Where do I state that they only have laser beams?

Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm sure there is more to the story then just laser beam paralysis and FYI they don't need laser beams to parlayze someone, they can do it by thought!

Well then, by all means...they should do that to me as soon as possible

How about tonight?

Originally posted by Alien_Question
There is a lot of info out there and I've been studying it for many years but I’m always interested in hearing some new cases and theories so if you have some examples of abductees with stories please share them. I would like to hear about the:

Picking locks,
Drugging victims,
Dragging them out of bed etc etc etc.

Start reading up on more abduction cases.

Originally posted by Alien_Question
In many of these type cases you may be mixing them up with the government infiltrating the grays for their own abductions and experiments. I hear this goes on alot and it makes sense that a human could only pick the lock, drug the victim and drag them out of bed so this would be the military and they do have reverse-engineered ET technology and paralysis beams so sounds (Believable.)

Still waiting for them to walk through walls or teleport me on to their spacecraft.

Hey pal...consider that a challenge

Are you game?

More importantly, are they?

I doubt it.

Originally posted by Alien_Question

Thanks!

No...thank YOU for allowing me to offer contrasting illumination to Zetan propaganda

Originally posted by Alien_Question
There is no need for the paralysis beam and they do not drag abductees out of bed! Paralysis beams are usually only used from the space craft!(Based on at least 85% of reported cases)

They also shoot victims with paralysis beams from their probes, which can also be cloaked at the time.

Moreover, one has to take into account that implanted screen memories and brainwashing in general lessens the number of actual reports. Simply because they are led not to remember being paralyzed and abducted in the first place

You know, inductive and deductive reasoning are excellent tools for uncovering the truth.

You should try using them sometime.

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Originally posted by Paul_Richard


You know, inductive and deductive reasoning are excellent tools for uncovering the truth.

You should try using them sometime.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by Paul_Richard]

This coming from the guy who beleives in Reptilians and ancient nuclear wars on Earth.

Originally posted by Drakiir
The funny thing is that here you are saying that Paul is wrong and yet there are billions of planets out there that could have the very thing he is talking about on them right now.

I could say walking fish could exist and technically it isn't garbage because we haven't explored all those billions of planets to find out if they do.

I agree, there's probably all types of beings out there. But that's not the point, i'm not entertaining the notion that Reptilians (that look strangely close to humans, almost as if.... as if a human invented it) are on this planet or have ever came to this planet without the general populace knowing about it. More ridiculous still, they camp out in underground bases and eat people. Sounds like a bad Sci-Fi series or someone's paranoid delusion.

Also my apologies for not believing that humans could not build a pyramid on their own with a thousands years up their sleeves and a million slaves.

Furthermore, I'm sorry but I can't accept that there was a nuclear war before the stone age involving "Altereans"...

Originally posted by Drakiir
So where is all that proof to prove Paul wrong, all you have to say is Im open to the possibility
[edit on 2-7-2008 by Drakiir]

Never offered any proof to the contrary, it's not even needed.

I posted this on another thread but thought it would suit here too. There seems to be a few aliens Im scared threads at the momet.

Im not scared anymore of any alien, fear is a big weapon in most things and with aliens its just about the biggest weapon they have against us.

Why are we scared to look into those eyes? Because the truth is hidden from us, we only are told half the story because we need to be controlled. What better way to control us than not tell us the truth. I refuse to be scared any longer of these creatures or any other ET. Yer if a six foot reptile started running towards me I may be slightly scared but until that happens I whont be lying awake waiting.

Their eyes are so dark ,emotionless, non caring, scanning and dead. Look beyond this and the fear will go, look into those eyes with immense love and light and I think you'll find they whont be half as scary as before. Sometimes when I feel some sort of abduction/visitation coming on I open my heart chakra ( chakras are used in meditation, we have 7 main ones) and radiate out universal love and light. I find the fear goes instantly as love is stronger than fear and will always over power fear.

It is said greys feed off human fear, dont give them what they want.

Also on my grey thread it has been revealed that greys like to eat strawberry ice cream via some undercover agents, well if that information isnt enough for you to loose your fear of them nothing will.

Originally posted by ET_CONTACT
You and Paul are both wrong and I don't belive your story. Those of us who have first hand knowledge of what the greys are really capable of know better.

This is an exchange from yesterday:

Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm sure there is more to the story then just laser beam paralysis and FYI they don't need laser beams to parlayze someone, they can do it by thought!

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Well then, by all means...they should do that to me as soon as possible

How about tonight?

...Still waiting for them to walk through walls or teleport me on to their spacecraft.

Hey pal...consider that a challenge

Are you game?

More importantly, are they?

I doubt it.

Would you like to know what happened last night after I "pushed my luck" and openly challenged the so-called godlike powers of the Reticulans?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

No body paralysis through Reticulan thought emissions.

No Zetan-Greys walked through my walls.

No teleportation whatsoever.

However, being a spiritual medium, Solist Mystic, and very telepathic with discarnates in my own right, I did get something from the astral side of the Reticulan element.

The gist of which was:

"We better leave him alone."

Oh come on

Surely such elevated light beings of power who can kidnap people via teleportation -- pulling them right through walls - and who can paralyze us with thought projections alone, can easily silence one ram among many sheeple

Or can they?

So boys and girls...want me to issue the challenge again in order to break through your thick skulls of Reticulan brainwashing?

To help the victims of Zetan propaganda in here come to their senses?

I am always available for doing just that

The Reticulans have no godlike powers

Never did, never will.

That is just the product of alien propaganda unwittingly through former governmental insiders and also through implanted screen memories in abductees.

Trust me.



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