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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 05:22 PM by justpassingthrough
Originally posted by thefreepatriot Titor, "This is a picture taken in the fall of 2035 during my training. It shows my instructor beaming a handheld laser outside the vehicle during operation. The beam is being bent by the gravitational field produced outside the vehicle by the distortion unit. The beam is visible through smoke that is coming from his cigar." Something about this pic makes me curious. I'm not exactly using it as a debunker, but this pic was taken in 2035 right? The car he is in surely looks like something from the 80's or maybe earlier. I wouldn't think that they would be training these guys in cars that are 55+ years old. This makes me a little suspicious. I mean, imagine if the car would look more futuristic, just like the brand new cars right now, look even more futuristic than the ones from the 90's. Again, this isn't proof, but it makes me even more skeptical of him. Are there any good reasons why you would use a car from say 1978 (the car could possibly be much older than this) instead of a modern car or even a car from 2010. Even if you used a car from 2010, it would be 25 years old by then. If the picture was more clear, I could probably tell you the make, model and year as well. Also, it says you can see the laser because of the smoke. To me, there isn't much smoke in that car and from the way I have seen lasers shown, they tend to vary more in color and intensity unless the smoke (or whatever is used) is VERY consistent. I'm no laser expert, so this is just a layman's talk since I don't know any better. Anyhow, there are just too many things that don't add up and it seems like when these things are debated, the Titor folk seem to try and bend every bit of logic to make his story work. This is a sign of something odd going on. JPT Edit-After some searching online, there are some that believe this picture was taken on the inside of a '66 Corvette. If this is true, to me, the Titor story is just more unlikely. [edit on 5-7-2008 by justpassingthrough]
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 04:58 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by justpassingthrough Why in the world would a time traveler carry with him a picture like this? I mean, come ON. I can see it now: "Ok, back to to the past I go...what should I bring.....clothes, food, as little as possible, and.......and a picture from my training so if anone questions me, I can post in on the net." LOL....yeah, right. Titor = HOAX.
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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 11:58 AM by sir_chancealot
Originally posted by justpassingthrough You wanted links, not opinioins. Here ya go. From October 2000... www.spaceref.com... The link above talks about China wanting to get a man on the moon by 2005. Sounds like a prediction to me about manned Chinese spacecraft and it was posted in 2000. From January 2001... www.spaceref.com... From Novemeber 2000 www.spaceref.com... These are a few that show the quick progress, plus some minor help from the US perhaps. www.spaceref.com... ...So, let's take this one topic at a time. Does your Titor Chinese "getting man into space" argument still hold water? If you'd like I can try and find some more media stuff. JPT Yes, it does. Because those links you provided talked about UNMANNED ROCKETS, NOT ONE THING about the first Chinese man in space. Show me the links from 2000, or Jan/Feb 2001 that talked about the Chinese sending their first man into space. Here is a link for you: www.washtimes.com... Notice that this is 4 months before their first man in space. Notice also who wrote the article. Even this guy seems to be unaware that China is just months from having their first person in space. I
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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 01:33 PM by justpassingthrough
reply to post by sir_chancealot Did you even read the very first link I put up? That link talks about China putting a man on the moon by 2005. If that doesn't talk about putting a man in space, I don't know what does. This article was oct 2000. Reread the first link and then get back to me, otherwise I have no idea what you are asking for. China was predicting itself to have a man on the moon by 2005, so surely this would mean a man in space before that. JPT
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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 09:50 PM by Jake the Dog Man
I have often thought how a time traveler would present themselves to people or what they could do to convince people of their story… John Tutor isn’t it. While this guy obviously did some research before he pulled this charade, the very thing he claimed to control, time, is exposing him. People seem to need to do an awful lot of extrapolating to make anything he said work. This comes from someone who really does think this will happen some day… but people only prove how gullible they are by giving this story the “time” of day.
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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 04:56 PM by xman_in_blackx
Originally posted by Tapped In Second and most intriguing to me is that the so called and self-proclaimed, "Master Debunker's" have written Titor's claims off as a HOAX, without any proof, rhyme or reasoning. I agree with you completely. I amazes to no end that just because people have a word to describe something they think they understand the concept completely. (e.g. instinct or quantum physics) Einstein himself had trouble wrapping it around his mind, but non-physicists everywhere throw the words around like they are geniuses who are so much smarter than Einstein himself. I have to call BS on their so called "debunking" of Titor. They look at a photo and say, I can tell just by the way it looks. "Physics just doesn't work that way" they say. Wow. Even FTD researchers would never make claims like that, but a lay person is now the know it all pontificating his expertise. Expertise in what exactly? Pontification or bull excrement? To my knowledge, no one has yet come forward to identify exactly what the "time machine" in the photo really is, much less the schematic diagrams. that would be a whole lot of trouble for a simple hoaxer. I am reminded of Dr Zaius from Planet of the Apes when he see the talking doll of human form. He has known about the truth all along, but argued vehemently to suppress it. "Nothing to see here. Move along" is their mantra which helps ease them into sweet slumber. No time travelers, no ghosts, no UFOs, no foreclosures, no banks failing, no collapse of the economy, no fascist regime wiping their posterior with the Constitution. Forget the facts and believe the lies. It is nothing more than swamp gas, hoaxers, and unpatriotic lies. TRUTH: Most debunkers need a good debunking. They never keep up with the current science and articles. Time travel is mainstream science now but there are those who still say that it is impossible. My college Physics professor used to tell us that black holes were BS. Him and I had many arguments and I would quote others in the field who could show proof. I had already lost by arguing and my grade reflected that loss. He knew everything there was to know about physics right? Wrong. We all know nothing. Open your eyes and see reality for yourself. Never believe anything from a talking head or debunker. I don't know if Titor is real, but it sure does have a ring of truth.
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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 07:53 PM by titorite
I watch, I wait, I see things unfolding in a manner already described. People talk all sorts of trash about me and my beliefs but I watch Closely and see more and more of what Titor spoke about come about.
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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 08:07 PM by Vasilis Azoth
Originally posted by Tapped In Originally posted by Zepherian Personally, I don't care. I go by my intuition. I understand the principles of 'today's' physics, but I also understand that what is fiction today, can and will be fact in the very near future. Intuition has nothing to do with current logic. But you do understand that none of us have any reason to trust your intuition. I'm not telling you not to, but we would have to be VERY guilible to trust a "feeling" of someone we have never met. Logically speaking is sounds like you have fallen into the fallacy of subjectivism. Vas p.s. I find Titor interesting, but have no opinion on his truthfulness.
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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 03:44 AM by Cythraul
Well we're only a couple of weeks away from finding out whether the Olympic prediction comes true or not. If it doesn't, I'll admit Titor was not the real deal.
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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 09:26 AM by clg79
I went over Titor's stories so many times. I will say that whoever he was had to be very intelligent and very creative to trick everyone into believing his stories. He also was probably one of those rare types that loved reading and then calculating some possible outcomes in our society (rare...only because he was able to mass brainwash people). A gift that not many people have but usually its down to the small % of the population that can read, possibly predict, and see some different outcomes. John Titor is probably the same guy who did the entire Wall Street thing. It is not that he is from the future but that he can see more then others can. Probably linked to insanity and genius. I'm sure once he continued on with his medication he went back to his "normal" time in thinking. Can you imagine what Albert Einstein could have predicated in his time? He could most likely see far into the future and much more then this Titor character. But Albert Einstein didn't predict things he just calculated them. Something that the greatest minds can accomplish even today if given the right amount of information. What would Nikola Tesla have predicted? Probably a good 100 years into the future? But he was also a rare type. Titor character is nowhere near the above mentioned scientists but Titor is more like H.G. Wells. But he gave for an interesting story. I'm sure once CERN is turned on you will see it is nothing to worry about. World war 3 is very probable but it will not last long. A civil war right now would not make sense but possibly in the future. This is all possible but not likely. I also believe if our planet and all the people ever develop time travel. We'd have it amazingly regulated and very public for everyone to see and notice. Otherwise we'd get too many anomalies and odd things happen to all of us. The public would have to know about time travel sooner or later regardless. But again I say Titor was a fictionally created person based on a brilliant brainwashing mastermind
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 06:11 AM by titorite
Originally posted by clg79 I went over Titor's stories so many times. . But again I say Titor was a fictionally created person based on a brilliant brainwashing mastermind Somethings Titor got right were big like the invasion of Iraq over wmds(NUKES) that simply did not exist. Somethings he got right were small like the poem named "a soldiers winter" by larry cluck. Somethings were uncanny like telling the people the Hawking would revers his opinion about blackholes. And somethings he got wrong like the timeframe of the civil war and the opening date of CERN. Still I wait and I watch. For all he has gotten right and wrong I think the Bejing Olympics will not happen. Lord knows the Chinese government has done enough by itself to cause a cancellation of the event.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 02:42 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 04:34 AM by zachystal
Mr. Titor assuming these pages survive in to future 2036 when you will read this kids from UFO say hello to you, that is Charlie, Little Boy, Other Boy, and me. in 2038 adults will burn not kids they will use Haarp in war....are TALL well so much for the revolution in good old USA or civil conflict NEWER HEARD OF 2005 I say if your are time traveler it come to pass to rip of something like Gold I have done research on you Mr. Titor or should I call you British agent? symbol on uniform is really British...oh yah you emigrated to USA? when in 2015 -2020 for sure Florida under water so you must be from Atlantis no hands just fish fangs so how could you be there etc. Basically what one say exposes thinking process of subject thus British secretly desiring revolution is known fact not in USA call Red Dragon and your ex wife wants alimony payments Your friend in time George
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 12:56 AM by CzErased
if john titor was right, than can you explain what i have been watching on NBC for the last couple of weeks? he asked for nothing, but that does not mean he was right. maybe he was a bored geek who wanted to show his geek pals how smart he can be by creating his own phenomena.
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reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 04:16 PM by sir_chancealot
I just thought I would point out the following again: Originally posted by sir_chancealot Originally posted by justpassingthrough reply to post by sir_chancealot So, you don't believe that Titor is a hoax and you don't believe that he was the truth. So, what exactly do you believe? I mean, why would you defend his words when you are ambiguous about what you think of him? With his predictions, I do believe they are probably about half right, half wrong to say it easily. You could say like 1/3 are wrong, 1/3 are too open to interpretation and 1/3 right if you wanted to start to get specific I suppose. ... What I believe is that some people on here are being disingenuous (fancy word for liar) when they say that he got NO predictions right. The Chinese in space was a big one. NO ONE IN THE MAINSTREAM PREDICTED IT. It was a shock when it happened. That's just one example. The second thing I believe is that people do not quote him correctly. A prime example of this is the debunkers like to say that he said a woman would be president after G.W. Bush. That is blatently not true (i.e., a lie). It's hard to have a discussion if 1/2 of the conversation make stuff up that wasn't said. People like to use two, TWO examples to say Titor was wrong. That of the Civil War, and the Olympics. I have asked 3 times, and still no debunker will answer the following question, which is EXTREMELY PERTINENT to his Olympics quote. That question is as follows: Are the 2008 Olympics the start of a new Olympics, or the remainder of the last Olympics? I can find no information on that, and not being a sports nut, I do not recall. Why do debunkers ignore this question? Second is the issue of the Civil War. Taken in context, and without reading any biases into it, he says that the civil war starts in 2004 with "Waco type events" that are about 1 a month. Does that sound like hostilities have broken out everywhere? You can infer that in 2008, outright fighting is set to begin. He says two things specifically about 2008. One is that the civil war "is at everyone's doorstep". The second is that by 2008, everyone knew that the life they thought they were living was over. "At the doorstep" means it is right here, but hasn't actually started. It means the very last "step" hasn't been taken. If I said something like "I am at the very last doorstep to entering college", would you assume that I was IN college, or that there was only one thing left for me to do before I entered college? He predicted that people would be held without due process. This is happening right now as we speak. Do any of you deny it? He asked the question "How many rights will you give up for security?" (paraphrased). Isn't that the big question in our society right now? We in the fringe has been discussing this very thing for years and years and years. Only in the last couple of years have these two very subjects went mainstream. You debunkers please show me anyone not a "conspiracy theorist" that predicted in 2000 or 2001 that we'd have people arrested and detained without due process! We now have AVERAGE PEOPLE living in tent cities, and out of their cars. This has not been seen in this country since the Great Depression. Do you think that they would agree with the statement that "the life they thought they were living was over"? MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF HOMES ARE SET FOR FORECLOSURE THIS YEAR. Do you think that they might agree with that phrase? Do you think any of THEM would have thought that just one year ago? How about the new news that GM may have to declare bankruptcy? Or the fact that two different European banks have stated that they expect the U.S. to undergo financial meltdown this year? Again, my point is not to say he was or wasn't a time traveler. My point is that he did, indeed, get his predictions right, despite what some on here want to claim. So, you have said 1/3 of his predictions are wrong. Show it. Show me the 1/3 of his predictions that are wrong. The same two keep cropping up. The Olympics and the Civil War. That's it. About 20 or 30 (at a guess, maybe even more) of his statements could be thought of as "predictions". Hell, he even talked about mad cow disease before anyone in the U.S. even had a CLUE that it was here. Here is the thing that none of the debunkers want to recognize. What constitutes the beginning of a civil war is up for debate. This is further compounded by the fact that he doesn't define what he means by civil war. "At your doorstep", taken in normal and everyday use, means that it is almost ready to begin. We know the actual date that Germany invaded Poland, yet historians still disagree with when WWII actually started. They can, rightfully so with hindsight, point out that it started much earlier, with some even going back to the treaty of Versailles. In fact, most history books will even make reference to this, and have some statement like "Actually hostilities began when...". Examined another way, there can be differing thoughts on when it started, but NO ONE can say it was later than September 1, 1939. The first (time-line wise) definitive statement Titor made was that by 2010, it had consumed everyone. Think of 2010 as equating Sept 1, 1939 in WWII. Anyone can say that he was not a time traveler and it doesn't bother me. But don't say he didn't get anything right, some things right, or even most things right. There are only 2 things (so far) that are up for argument. And that is the Civil War, and the Olympics. The man even predicted CERN would soon discover how to make micro-singularities! Did anyone ELSE predict in 2000 or early 2001 that CERN would make those? Anyone? Bueller....? Anyway, if people want to "debunk" him, fine. Just do so honestly. Someone even said "Oh, uh it was easy to predict the Chinese would send someone into space soon (meaning back in 2000 or 2001). Ok, fine. SHOW ME THE LINKS. Don't talk about how "anyone" could have done it. Show me the links from 2000 or 2001 mainstream (or even not-so-mainstream) sources that predicted the Chinese would have their first man in space. Is that so hard? SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people are talking about CERN making micro-singularities. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where anyone ELSE talked about 100,000 people losing their lives in a single day. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people were talking about suspects being held without due process. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where "non-lethal" weapons were talked about as being quite lethal. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where the Chinese were predicted to send their first man in space. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people were asking what were the political motivations of rewriting the Constitution. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people were saying that our government's claim of Iraq having nuclear weapons was just BS to justify the Iraqi war. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people were talking about how much liberty to give up for safety. SHOW ME THE LINKS from 2000/2001 where people said the mad-cow disease was cause for concern here in the United States. Now, that's just 9 things I picked at random at the start of this thread. There are many more that haven't even been covered here. Don't offer your opinion, SHOW ME THE LINKS. [edit on 3-7-2008 by sir_chancealot]
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reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 04:35 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
Originally posted by dj_molecular reply to post by Tapped In Telsa whom i admire very seriously ALSO said we could have electricity wireless... what happened to that.. and all his other ideas that were stolen from his archives.... im sure you believe in the Philadelphia experiment too!! It's already here dude; news.bbc.co.uk...
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