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Video of UFO over Panama City

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posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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I'd just like to confirm that Mr. Santos replied to an email I sent to the email address associated with the YouTube account that posted the video--so this this individual is the same person that posted the YouTube video.

He has indicated that his English is not good, so please keep that in mind.

Victor--you posted a short video on YouTube of a UFO event that you experienced, just a few questions I have that you might be able to answer:

- From the time that you first noticed it until the time it disappeared, was how long? (5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes, etc..)

- What did you film this event on? What type of video camera and how long did you film?

- Are you willing to provide the full video?

- Was there anyone with you that saw this?

- Did the media report on this? Was this an event that the community saw or have you not heard about this anywhere?


Any other members, please add any additional questions for our guest.

Thank you Victor.

delius




posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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- From the time that you first noticed it until the time it disappeared, was how long? (5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes, etc..)

5 minuts

- What did you film this event on? What type of video camera and how long did you film?

45s I could not record but because I was paralyzed
Nikon Coolpix S700

- Are you willing to provide the full video?

Yes no problem

- Was there anyone with you that saw this?

NO


- Did the media report on this? Was this an event that the community saw or have you not heard about this anywhere?

At the moment and not communicated anything, only by blog



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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Hola Victor, gracias por tomarte el tiempo de responder preguntas. Tu filmación es muy buena y espero que esta no sea la ultima.

(Hello Victor thanks for taking the time to respond to questions. Your footage was great and I hope this is not the first of your sightings.)

Hablo español perfectamente y cualquier duda que tengas por favor hazmela saber, hay gente aca en ATS que piensa que lo que viste son luces de esas grandes que se utilizan en grandes eventos de casinos o lanzamientos de pelìculas, como estas:

(I speak spanish fluently, and any doubt that you might have, please let me know, there are people here in ATS that think that what you saw were searchlights, like the ones used in big casino events or movie premieres)






Cual es tu opinión Victor, será que si son luces como estas?

(What do you think Victor, are they indeed searchlights?)

Un abrazo.

(Regards)

Camilo



[edit on 30-6-2008 by Camilo1]

[edit on 30-6-2008 by Camilo1]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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Victor--

Thanks for the response.

I think that the raw video would be a great starting point--there are a lot of smart folks on ATS who will be able to review.

If you could post the video from your camera as is, that would be awesome. Although you cannot directly upload it to ATS, there are lots of free file sharing sites that you can upload it to and post the link.

RapidShare is one that comes to mind, although any will work as long as it supports larger file sizes.

We all look forward to the video and hopefully getting to the bottom of this!

delius



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by delius
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Victor--

Thanks for the response.

I think that the raw video would be a great starting point--there are a lot of smart folks on ATS who will be able to review.

If you could post the video from your camera as is, that would be awesome. Although you cannot directly upload it to ATS, there are lots of free file sharing sites that you can upload it to and post the link.

RapidShare is one that comes to mind, although any will work as long as it supports larger file sizes.

We all look forward to the video and hopefully getting to the bottom of this!

delius


Hola Victor te traduzco el mensaje de Delius:

Victor

Gracias por tu respuesta

Creo que el video original puede ser un punto de partida, hay mucha gente inteligente en ATS que podría revisarlo.

Si puedes subir el video de tu cámara como está sería muy bueno, no lo puedes subir directamente a este sitio, ATS, hay muchos sitios en internet donde puedes compartir archivos, y darnos el enlace.

RapidShare es uno de los que se me ocurre, sin embargo cualquiera funcionará si es que puede recibir archivos de gran tamaño.

Esperamos ver el video y llegar al fondo de este asunto.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Damn, that was one of the more interesting one's.

And using a tripod....don't see that to often.


What, you mean you don't setup a tripod to take unmoving video of a still, non-moving city scape either? Weird, lol.

I would like to know what he was doing there, why he was filming a completely static environment using a tripod and camcorder instead of using still photography and many other questions that he may or may not need to get creative with before he answers. We'll see, I guess. Actually, no we wont. This video is not an alien ufo, nothing paranormal about it, perfectly explainable (there are 7-10 more reasonable things this could be before jumping of the ledge of ignorance and absurdity by claiming it is evidence of something we are all interested in and the reason we all read and post in this very forum.

And also, where are the corroborating reports of such an obvious massive display over a HIGHLY populated area? Maybe they were only visible to him, perhaps?



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Damn, that was one of the more interesting one's.

And using a tripod....don't see that to often.



lol now to debunk due to your statement.....


TRIPOD....
what would the odd's be 1 man in that whole city saw this..and this ONE man happen to have a camcorder and a TRIPOD already set up lol

the video is second's long SECOND'S .......

there for he already must have had it set up right lol

he did go omg ufo's...set it up.


plus watch at end of video he looks to the left where nothing is even at.

why because everything was added later on.

think on it.

its a hoax

very very similar to others supposedly filmed in Brazil ect....



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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Hola Victor

Algunos miembros quieren saber por qué utilizaste un trípode para filmar, si usaste uno, por supuesto.

Saludos

Camilo

(Hello Victor

Some members want to know why did you use a tripod to film, if you used one of course.)

Regards

Camilo



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:01 PM
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Good Day All,


Originally posted by Camilo1
Found a good one I think (as always it could be cgi)



It was uploaded to Youtube a couple of days ago, by VSantosGonzalez, he says the video was taken by him on his apartment at 6:35 pm.

There is a link to a blog also created a couple of days ago.

ovnispanama.blogspot.com...

In the blog VSantosGonzalez says that his name is Victor, and that he did not believe in UFOs until he saw these lights from his balcony as he arrived from work, he grabbed a camera and the Youtube video is the result.

What say you?

[edit on 29-6-2008 by Camilo1]

[edit on 30-6-2008 by Camilo1]


My first impression is that it appears that Victor was not focused on the objects; it "feels like" a panoramic shot of the city; moreover, assuming he "saw" the objects, one would think that as they moved upwards out of the frame he would have followed them and or panned the sky for them . . . smells a little fishy to me . . . hints of "Vue" software . . .

Cheers,
Frank



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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Additionally on his blog writes, "but when returning from work by the balcony . . . in the distance I saw 5 lights, with some strange movements"; thus he indicates that he saw the objects "first"; with that in mind one would think that he would have been "hastily trying to focus on the objects" during the duration and followed their path as they left (which didn't happen) . . . this is a "red flag" IMHO.

Cheers,
Frank



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:18 PM
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Hey guys sorry for not logging in, all the searchlights shown have beams that are visible from the source, these do not. However, if you look directly underneath them you can see a gap in the buildings where a strong light source is coming from. Maybe this is the searchlights, im not an expert, only an observation. Does look cool though, happy searching.

Peace



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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The camera operator gave the hoax away!

He is panning like he is video taping a city scene with the intent to add UFOs later...

Sad really

Hoaxers are a funny bunch!

I wish they could be more in depth and detailed so we could at least have a challenge!



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Chinese lanterns!!!! No I'm joking, it is a very interesting video. Good vid



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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Yeah good find. Could be fake but still good. Reminds me of the Chile or Peru UFO videos



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 01:34 PM
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Señor Santos:

Hay mucha gente aquí preguntándose por qué usted no utilizó el zoom para poder observar los objetos más nítidamente, si tal cual usted dice observó los objetos previamente a comenzar a grabar. ¿Podría dar una explicación al respecto?

Mr Santos:

There's a lot of people here wondering why you didn't use the zoom in order to see the objects closely, if like you said you saw the objects before start recording. Could you give us an explanation about that?



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 02:34 PM
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I'm sure I read about this video or one very similar somewhere before and it turned out that it was an airshow of some sort and the planes are flying towards the camera then going down to land nearby.

And as much as I want to believe its something unexplainable that seems a lot more realistic!



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Too good to be real IMO. But the way it was filmed seems fishy.

maybe he didn't tilt up when the lights vanished up further into the sky because..they just vanished and no point of tilting..

but I don't know,

just doesn't feel right.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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It's just a gut feeling but, for some reason it feels fake. I can't quite put my finger on this yet, but being in the profession I am in, something tells me this is not quite genuine.

One thing off the bat that seems a bit off for me is the typical "SHAKY/DRAMA" Style camera movement. It's something that has been a style adapted by just quite a few TV shows.

If you want to put some CGI into a shot, then first you need to 'ACT' out the scene and make it 'feel' like you're seeing something you're not. Kind of like acting out in front of a green screen if you take my meaning.

There isn't much to this shot, the simplicity allows this to have a certain amount of believable angles to it, but I still think it's not quite enough to make me convinced that this is the real deal.

For the people I work with, one thing that would make us ALL very happy is the footage taken with a decent glass (Lens) and 1080p HD Camera which we can now buy pretty cheap these days. Also, the other thing is, that while HD cameras are now very easy to use as the standard print for CGI shots, it's also the best thing to give you all the relevant errors that comes up if the shot is tampered with.

So, a FULL RAW UNEDITED shot, with all it's metadata and info intact, next to an analyzed shot of it from a credited firm that would tell us if it's real or not. If we could get that, then we're in business. And even then, we should ALL be open for the obvious hoaxes that will be out there.

It's great to believe, it makes us go further into the investigations of such UFO claims, but we should never stamp anything as 100% proof of authenticity unless we've taken the shots our selves and had witnesses who are not your friends.

I'm sorry but when we are dealing with such amazing phenomenons, we need the best possible proof and evidence out there.

Even HD materials now are subject to scrutiny. But at least we can zoom into the photo better than with a shaky SD film.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 04:31 PM
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looks real to me...


thanks for sharing



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Hi Element-115

My knowledge about photography pretty much amounts to nothing, and you seem to know a lot about the subject, in this case we are lucky to have the man from Panama here at the board, if you want you can ask him a questions and I`ll be glad to translate.

Thanks for your post

Camilo1




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