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Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by alienj
I just clicked on you Israel Today link, I cant help but wonder if the US and Europe giving Israel the go ahead is just some way for the US to say, "Well, we have to back Israel now that they attacked..." in order to infiltrate the country.
Originally posted by Perplexed
Yes, and the sad thing is those people are Persians over there... They aren't even Arabs.
I would also bet my next paycheck most of the people over there are just like us here in the US. They just want to raise their families. I suspect that its that way the world over including the Arabs and its the very few that screw all of us... We are all scared into thinking they are the boogey man.. They being us and them... It really pisses me off...
Originally posted by alienj
reply to post by Annoyed
This is what people seem to have a hard time realizing...every time the Leader of Iran speaks he talks about annialating Israel.
Sooner or later Ahmadinejad is going to unleash nuclear holocaust on Isreal. That’s not a conspiracy theory that is what has come out of his mouth.
Now if a country was threatening the US with nuclear war what would we do. We would protect ourselves and that is what Israel said they would do. So, we are a very good allies of Israel and if Iran ever did attack them then we would have to stand behind Israel in a Nuclear war.
Our president is trying to push Iran economy into collapse right now so the leadership of that country will loose its hold on the country and new leadership might spring up. In doing so our Government is hoping that the economic pressures on the country will keep it from pushing forward with and war making capability and cause Iran to look more at its infrastructure and people therefore keeping them from attacking Israel. So basically our country is trying to stop WW3. That is why we have added pressure on Iran right now. Do you guys realize that Iran is trying to hurt us economically right now. Did you know that they are stock piling Oil right now trying to get oil prices up to cause economic pressure in the west.
Ahmadinejad said that, that is not a theory it is the truth. Iran is helping to drive oil prices up to hurt us...I have stated nothing but facts. It is a fact that if Iran continues down this path that Israel will take action and when that happens, we will have to stand behind them.
Originally posted by sjag9
I'm not at all suprised by this story. What would have been truly shocking would have been a story stating that the U.S. has NOT initiated covert ops against Iran. I mean, did anyone truly believe that U.S. doesn't play ball that way? Another thing, is $400 million dollars alot for covert ops? I know it's alot of money for most people, but what does your run-of-the-mill covert op cost? I for one have no idea.
IMO, it should have been fairly obvious that Iran has been the end-game of this whole thing from the start. Think about it in geographic terms. First, Afghanistan is taken on the eastern flank of Iran. Then Iraq is taken on the western flank of Iran. Yeah, Pakistan is over there on the east, too but they're more or less obedient. No real threat from the north and the south needs no explanation. So, what you have is a perfect stage to put the squeeze on Iran from opposing directions. Iran is a big country and much more organized than its neighbors, so you'd need to be well prepared for the task. I think that the reason U.S. hasn't already taken Iran down is that Iraq, and to a lesser extent, Afghanistan have operationally gone so poorly that U.S. couldn't realistically accomplish the task. Now, if you get Israel to carry the bulk of the load for some type of limited offensive I think you might have something realistic.
Just my 2 cents
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
everyone on heRe needs to look into the iranian oil bourse and understand that its causing the collapse of the dollar. this is why the internet cables were cut in febuary. i believe the bourse ,that was scheduled to open 2 years earlier,opened on Feb. 11th. they are accepting the euro for oil and destablizing our currency. the iranians have said that that is their new "nuke" that they will use on america, to destroy our economy
they also sell the oil on the internet directly to the oil companies and countries all over the world. this cuts out the middleman and stops speculation. IRAN GO BOOM!
I'M SUPRISED VENEZEULA isn't in the mix,because they,re in the bourse too with a few other countries as well. anyone remember the "i still smell the sulphur " remark?
this is not a good situation by any means. heres a little fun reading to pass the time whle you're waiting for the end of the world as we know it...
the sacrifice of the fifth fleet
this also does not thrill me as my daughter has just been transfered to the fifth fleet, to the USS BATAAN. NOT GOOD.
[edit on 1-7-2008 by Spectre0o0]
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
If we see 3 battle groups in the gulf then things are about to get hot.
Their Military is well trained and motivated, unlike the armies faced by allied forces in the 2 Gulf Wars.
Their anti aircraft systems are much more advanced than Iraq's, granted they will have problems combating stealth and cruise attacks but the US does not have an entire airforce of stealth bombers
Also there is the matter of the Sunburn anti ship missile. Being mobile they will be difficult to track down, remember the trouble we had with the Scuds? And if one of these missiles, just one, gets through...
Originally posted by dgtempe
Just how does a president of the United States attack a nation just before leaving office?
How is that done leaving the turmoil for the NEXT president?
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Odessy
your first mistake was trusting CNN to tell you the truth