Bush Plans On Attacking Iran Before Leaving Office!!! CNN Report!!!

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posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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Im gravely concerned over Iran "being retired military", and directly involved in Operation Eagle Claw on 24 April 1980, "TASK FORCE 60". heres another source on the matter.

www.newsmax.com...

and you might wanna check this out


www.timesonline.co.uk...

We have always known this guy was trouble with a great big capitol T (since the late 70s and 80s we watched him closely).




posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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We are being led by idiots and herniaiated rectums who put ideology above reality.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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I think this invasion [not surgical strike] has been in the planning stages for years. Ever since the Shah was deposed back in 79 , the PTB have planned revenge on the religious leaders of Iran.

The world is even more crazy and violent than we can imagine.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 09:52 AM
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I've been saying for some time now that the hard core right wing has had a war-on for Iran ever since the hostage crisis. there is absolutely no sane reason why we do not have diplomatic relations with Iran... but then again the people ruling this nation are not sane.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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Well, it is unclear to me whether;

A - The administration (corporate-fueled ideologues) are intending to carry out an action which could spark a 'declaration of war', or

B - They are making absolutely certain that the notion of 'impending war' remains fixed in the publics mind, as well as the Iranian leadership.

There is no doubt that we are on a 'war' footing. We are staging military assets accordingly. We have, once again, rejected international (UN) assurances of the nature of Iran's nuclear energy initiatives. I am reticent to state that we should, because as far as I know, nuclear fissionables could be a result of their programs. However, we have 'ignored' UN assurances before, and found our reasoning in retrospect, to be wanting.

As a nation with a faltering industrial base, war is the most draining activity in which we could engage. It affects our economic situation in a manner not unlike a a three foot hole in a canoe.

Our leadership is so isolated and focused on the projection of military power in the ME that it has de-prioritized national infrastructure and the resources of the people. They appear to be in a 'mad' dash to accomplish something, but what that is remains unclear.

I fear most the CIA black-ops that have cost us so much blood in the past. It's almost as if the costs are negligible , as they won't be the one's paying for it.

In what manner can the reasoning so easily disregard the national will? Ideology has led us this far. The 'New World Order' foreseen by Bush Sr. must have some bearing on these otherwise incongruous activities. Or is it just the Energy Industries last frantic reach for more assets and control, at the cost of the Nation's defense and resources?

Are we to form yet another 'coalition' of the willing to take on this very large nation and it's collective will? What, aside from the bravado and chest pounding, will be accomplished by this? More 'patriotic' furor with which to justify the imposition of more draconian civil restrictions? Will we truly be 'safer'? Or is this about the much touted Israeli influence within our government?

Who are the architects of this plan, the neocons, the Energy lobby, the Israeli government? We know it is not the congress that is pushing this, nor the senate; although their tacit cooperation denotes approval. It isn't coming from the UN, although their true motivations tend towards the financial. The Arab world is oddly subdued over the rising tension and seemingly impending conflict.

So many questions. Theoretically, in a representative constitutional republic, with a free press standing guard, and a well educated and informed population, should there be this much doubt and so many questions unanswered?

Be vigilant, examine all information sources, talk to one another, engage our leaders, make them answer.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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This rumor has been going around for over a year now.

While I wouldn't put it past them, it's fruitless to sit around biting your fingernails over it.

For those that are worrying, I'd like to share some lyrics with you



To you, is it movement or is it action?
Is it contact or just reaction?
And you...revolution or just resistance?
Is it living, or just existence?
Yeah, you! It takes a little more persistence
To get up and go the distance
- Rush "Enemy Within"



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:27 AM
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After watching the events of the past six months unfold I have come to the conclusion that you are right.

This coming attack on Iran has been planned since back before the presidential primaries, I believe it has been George Bush's ace in the hole. This would explain a lot of things that have happened.

It explains why John Mccain came out of nowhere to take the Republican nod over Romney and other candidates who were at one point leading the Mccain team by a wide margin in the polls.

This is why the Bush regime has been so relaxed and reserved in regard to the up coming presidential race, they have known the entire time that a war will be started with Iran before November.

The posturing has gotten worse and worse, it seems to me that it is more than a coincidence that in the days leading up to the presidential race the case for attacking Iran has grown louder and louder.

This IMO is all being carefully staged, with a new war being waged and a new set of enemies to be attacked it will make a Democratic victory extremely difficult, and I think Mccain was hand picked for the role because of his veteran status and his battle experience.

Think about it, the odds of people voting for an inexperienced Obama go way down if the country is tied up in a war with Iran. The republicans are banking on one of two things happening, either this will lead the way for an easy victory for John Mccain on election day or it will give Bush the ammo that he needs to declare himself "supreme ruler" during times of war, and will allow him to stay in power indefinately for the "good of the American people".

I have been wondering what card the neo-cons would play in order to seize power when ther approval ratings are at an all time low. Looks like war will be waged, only this time there will be a lot of lives lost on both sides. It is a calculated risk that will likely backfire in Bush's face and will guarantee that we are stuck in the Middle East for at least another 5 yers....which I believe is ultimately what they are hoping for.

Just my $0.02



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
 


Her arguments were very compelling. Particularly I like the rhetorical question - "Is Bush a dictator!?" Hell yeah, he is, if this happens.





posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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Thank you all for your replies.

I too feel this in my gut.
As I shared in the OP, other articles have led me to this thought as well, but there was that sliver of hope that nothing would come of it.
A president is not supposed to do anything major in the 6months to a year before he/she gets out of office... its principle, to make it an easier transition for the next president...
and I've read before (many months back) that bush did not plan on leaving office without solving the Iran situation...
well, we all know hoe he solves problems...

But now, its different...
now we're coming down to the deadline of Bush's term and if something happens its going to happen soon...
If Bush really does start war with Iran... pretty much all of my thoughts on his intended reign, the NWO, and WWIII will be answered...
yes, Bush plans on staying in office.
Yes, this must be part of a bugger plan with the NWO because who in their right mind would wage war with other countries for no good reason while were already suffering a major deficit from a war we are still fighting? Someone that has some type of ulterior motive obviously.
and when will WWIII happen? now...



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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When I was a teenager, I ran away from my home in Athens, Greece and lived on a Kibbutz in the Golan Heights. One of our favorite games to play after work was "Risk". This was about 25 years ago. My strategy to win (at the age of 16) was to take the countries that (more or less) went westward and followed the equator. Playing by this strategy and applying it to our own US military, the next takeover after Iraq/Iran would be India or Pakistan. My bet is on Pakistan, then, of course, an Asian country- probably North Korea. We also said, back on the kibbutz, that the US would be just like Israel in 20-25 years. Wow, didn't even need a fortune teller at the time. BTW, it's interesting how it's just coming out how Iraq was in total anarchy after our invasion. Little wonder. If our commanders really gave a crap about the Iraqis, there would have been a temporary socialist government (that should been in the works for at least a couple of years) in place right after going in but that's not the CAPITALIST way. Every person for themselves and damn the rest. I have a hard time seeing the difference between Islamic extremists and our leaders. Small comfort that the more things change, the more they stay the same.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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An attack on Iran will sink this country for good


It will be the beginning of the end for the US...our economy can not sustain such blatant wrecklessness and stupidity.

We will all be living in cardboard shantees and eating dirt before old W. is finished....he just seems hell bent on ruining America once and for all and an attack on Iran will be the final dagger through the heart.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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"I'm heading for the mountains"

I suggest you keep away from underground caves and tunneling systems.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:02 PM
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Guys, calm down. Look at the paragraph again and notice the last sentence:

The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

Also, please cite the whole article - there are some things in there that cast doubt on this story:


He based the report on accounts from current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.



"I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran, in the south or anywhere else," Crocker said.


I wouldn't push the panic button just yet, but I will be keeping an eye on the story and events as they unfold.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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While this gloomy outlook is quite possible, I have another suggested outcome...

Our economy collapses so much that the public becomes open to a North American Union... much like the European Union, which has already been talked about:


This of course will happen right before or during WWIII, and at that time we could possibly join with our allies, Europe, and form an even bigger union.

The new currency of one or both unions would help the US, not so much Canada, and the union of both North America and Europe would be the start to the One World Govt or New World Order...

of course, this could take years and years, perhaps even decades, but I dont think America is going to fall quite yet.
Dont forget Rome and England had massive empires that spanned far greater than just that county before they collapsed...

just my opinion, but both yours and mine still arent a very good outcome, we can agree on that.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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"Just how does a president of the United States attack a nation just before leaving office?

How is that done leaving the turmoil for the NEXT president?


From some of the recent threads it sounds like Bush is planning to start a war before his term ends, declare martial law or a state of emergency so he retains the throne, then all hell breaks loose and most likely everyone will just "Wing it" from there!

I suggest all humans remain civilized and not eat other humans!


May The Force Be With You!


[edit on 30-6-2008 by Alien_Question]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:06 PM
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We are at a very sad stage in our lives.
The sum of all fears.
Everything i have feared for years since Bush is materializing right in front of us.
How could we possibly let this happen to this great nation?
Time to sign off for awhile.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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Time to load up on food storage and Ammo!



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
Guys, calm down. Look at the paragraph again and notice the last sentence:

The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.


and:


Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.




Also, please cite the whole article - there are some things in there that cast doubt on this story:

I linked the article for everyone to read, I dont need to do more than that and show the highlights. only so many characters you can post in a post.




He based the report on accounts from current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.


Yes, I would suspect a journalist to do such...
seems like legitimate sources if you ask me.




"I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran, in the south or anywhere else," Crocker said.


2 things about this.
1)

"The CIA, as a rule, does not comment on allegations regarding covert operations," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said.

so I doubt the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad would either know, or confirm secret military operations...
2) You need to read on...

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad, denied U.S. raids were being launched from Iraq...

... ok, so we didnt enter Iran from Iraq... BUT...

Hersh said U.S. efforts were staged from Afghanistan, which also shares a border with Iran.

So there you see CLEAR AS DAY! Yeah, we arent going to Iran from Iraq... We're going in from Afghanistan...



I wouldn't push the panic button just yet, but I will be keeping an eye on the story and events as they unfold.

There is way more to read into this story than I even thought at first, so thank you for making me read it again and point them out.
While you may not have to worry right now, this second, you need to worry soon, as Bush's term comes to a close.
This report is seriously just the tip of the ice berg of so many other reports we have been hearing in the past 6 months...


[edit on 30-6-2008 by Odessy]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:18 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Good to see you have the forethought to look ahead. A country at war will enable the Bush regime to remain in power, while a collapse of our economy will all but force the citizens of the US to accept the NAU and the Amero.

What other choice will we have when starvation sets in and the old greenback is worth zilch? I don't know about anyone else, but I do not have gold shillings laying about that I can use to procure food and necessities in the event of a severe collapse.

By the time all is said and done, the average American will be begging for a new system of currency or anything that will help stave off death and poverty.

Quite ingenius planning on the part of the power mongers, even though we are able to see two steps ahead of the game and are able to recognize the transparency of their actions, we are all but helpless to stop them.

Better stock up on bullets and canned goods, find a place to go once the food shortages start. WWIII is coming, and America will be an entirely different place by this time next year.

[edit on 6/30/08 by BlackOps719]



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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i dont think it is humanly possible to stop this evil..so thats why they are showing it all to us..

Dont watch this video...if you're happy living a lie















the light shall prevail...much love to all of you





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