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What Is It About The City?

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posted on Jun, 29 2008 @ 05:36 PM
I am sick and tired of seeing on the news...

"A police officer was shot after stopping a drug deal at XYZ Middle School. The shooter was arrested which sparked a riot."

That's right, guy shoots an officer because the officer tried to stop him from dealing drugs at a school and the response is too riot when the shooter is arrested.

Or in the same city a man was tired of the neighbor kids smashing his car with bricks and stuff so got a camera, recorded them doing it, then called the cops. His house was shot up because he had the balls to call the cops on them. Thankfully he was at work, unlike the neighbors who collected welfare.

Or at highschool we used to play in a small farm land for miles league. But then we joined the city league and... No more night games. Why? We had one, cars robbed, people beaten, so forth. The response from the city schools? Well we're just bad losers who should expect to be stabbed and robbed and raped.

Friend of mine's parents moved to the city bought a nice little place. They moved stuff in, drove back to old place, and when they got back... Were robbed already. They called the cops, cops followed the clues and... When they caught the people who robbed the house the family/neighbors freaked and destroyed my friend's parents house and car.

And of course its not just here no no. Everywhere you go its the same deal. Welfare, dealing drugs, act like animals. What is it about living in the city or whatever that makes people act like this?

Or a prime example. King Courts and Y Town aparment complexi. One is nice, the other a hell hole. One has a pool, is safe to walk through at night if visiting friends or family, is nice and quiet. One you will be robbed, beaten, stabbed. Police don't even go near it any more after a car was vandalized as it responded to a fire at the complex.

They are only two blocks from each other. Between them is an invisible line. The city/town line.

What is it? I don't get how maybe one and a half miles means a whole different world. Why are people who live in the city savages and animals while people who live outside the city are nice, calm, quiet people.

Also, the last major crime to be committed in our little town? Done by people who lived in the city. And the one before that, and the one before that, and the one... You get my point.

I don't want this to be about race because it isn't that. The person's who's house was shot up was black and his neighbors were white racist little bastards. And the King Courts have more then just blacks or hispanics in them so its not just them making that place a hell hole.

Is it the water? Or the air? Or just from being packed in like sardines? I mean there has to be a reason why just two blocks means the difference from being robbed and stabbed and having a nice quiet stroll through the complex on a warm summer eve.

posted on Jun, 29 2008 @ 06:25 PM
It's funny, the more people we're near, the fewer people we actually get along with.

I grew up in a town of 8000 and moved to a city of 150,000 in Orange County. I generally think cities just create isolation and competition, which leads to selfishness. Rarely is a crime commited that doesn't involve selfishness.

I plan to move to the country outside of a town of about 500 people. Anymore than that and humans just seem to naturally go nuts.

posted on Jun, 29 2008 @ 07:48 PM
Malthusian theory explains a lot of contemporary culture, attitudes and behavior.

relevant wisdom from the past.....

sorry you folks have to experience this but it is inevitable, as you will see if you read the above link.

posted on Jun, 29 2008 @ 10:11 PM
reply to post by whaaa

Makes a lot of sense. I've been reading a lot about society from more objective and conceptual ways (currently reading Robert Monroe's Far Journeys concerning out-of-body experience and Daniel Quinn's Ishmael, which is a description of the world through the eyes of a gorilla)

It may be time to read the direct approach. Thanks for the link.

posted on Jun, 29 2008 @ 10:45 PM
The landmark anthropology study was on the San tribespeople in Africa, decades ago. The people lived in small nomadic groups of 20 people for three quarters of the year. Crime was completely unknown. No theft, no gossip, no arguments over food or water, in the middle of the desert.

But the whole nation gathered beside a lakebed each year, waiting for the rains and summer harvest festivals to begin. Then there were killings, rapes, riots, you name it.

So what was the magical threshold? When the group of people climbed much above 500 people, then again above 2000 people, the crime rate jumped exponentially.

The average person in any culture can identify about 2000 people, including celebrities, but only about 500 in terms of their personalities, dislikes, prejudices, etc.

In other words, it's a function of population density, multiplied by leisure time.


posted on Jul, 6 2008 @ 03:46 PM
Another City vs Country Story

Storm blows through. Friend in city has tree go through living room. As he is coming back from neighbors after using their phone to call whoever the city folks are surrounding his house. His dad has to sit on the front porch with a shotgun to keep them from looting the house through the huge gaping hole made by the tree.

Same storm knocks a tree into a house in the countryside. Do the people living there have to set up security patrols to keep people out? No. They invite people over to help cut it up with chainsaws and put up tarps. Past few days been helping out put up a temporary wall and roof until they can get homeowners insurance out to pay for repairs.

Of course there is a difference in just the city and little town. Tornado blows through, does a ton of damage. GE is out here cleaning up power lines, trees, whatever. In the city? GE doesn't dare go there for fear of being robbed and car jacked. It took the city a couple days to do anything. In fact... the tree that fell through my friends living room was "supposed" to be cut down but the city just never got around to it. Out here? Call them up and usually they are out the same day to do whatever.

Friend of the family moves out of city and into back here. They were expecting the same hell they dealt with when moving into the city. Nope. When they moved into the city they'd have to talk on the phone for hours to get nothing done. Water? Electricity? Well you can wait to have those for a few days right? According to the city anyways. Moved back to here? Ten minutes and whatever was needed was taken care of. They were even greeted by name when they called.

So its not just the citizens living in the city its everything.

Out here we have a YMCA with multiple pools, gyms, courts, cool stuff. You just show up, show your card, go on in. Very little security. Heck half the time I forget my card but they know me so let me in. In the city? The public pools they have are better secured then Fort Knox. Well when they're open they usually close 4-5 times a summer when the city folk knife each other for wearing the wrong colors or hat tipped the wrong way.

Gah, hate the city. Never go there when I can avoid it. Just to many stories of the hell it and every city is.

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