Originally posted by Dan Tanna
The issue you all forget about is that one little word.

Consent.

The images are made up fakes so there is no one to consent. I wish i could find that damn news report with the paedophile who said he'd abandoned his collection of real porn in favour of this stuff. That to me speaks volumes, if only a handful of them stop it maybe we can help a handful of abuse victims. The ones who like the real thing will get it anyway, the ones who want this stuff instead may find it harder to get if illegal and will turn to the real thing instead.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna


You say it will stop at comics. Interpol and other research says it doesn't in many cases.

Many cases yes, but not all and if we can stop the small minority from viewing the real thing i would hail it as a success.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna
An adult who dreams and drools over having sex with a child has a power issue / control issue in their lives.

Yes and no, whlst some seem to have the same mentality as a rapist, others come more under the heading of necrophiles, wanting an unresisting partner. Others fall under the heading of retarded sexual development, there are many boxes for these individuals, none of them good but don't lump them all together as one as it does an injustice to the research adn won't help solve the issue.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna
Add to this that groups of paedophiles are highly cunning, dangerous manipulative people who seek each other out, and you really see them for what they are.

The predatory kind yes, are horrific people, highly cunning. Just look at the recent case in england with what the police called the worst porn they had ever seen. Some of it included babies for gods sake. That man had a secret compartment in his jacket for a USB stick so if he was frisked in a cyber cafe he'd be clean. The fact he was using cyber cafes also shows a carefully planned and motivated individual, highly devious, like your advanced serial killer. Not much difference in my eyes.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna
A danger to all and every child, no matter where they started out on the slope from, be it your 'comic' porn or other downloaded materials.

Well that's where we disagree, there are paedophiles who control their urges according ot studies, they have the porn to help that. Whist this is absolutely disgusting and abhorrent to all on this thread (i hope) it does show some are capable of controlling it. As long as they never touch a child or view the real porn then we can't lock them up for thought crime. If that were the case you could lock up most of the population as all of us will have violent thoughts for example sometimes.

That's why we have a filter in our brains that controls actions against thoughts.

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
Imagine all those wannabe thugs who watched too much porn - the rapists and the molesters - they have only become who they are because of the simple fact that they watched too much porn.

If you wish to contradict me in some way, which i'm sure you can, then would it not be better to simply try out my method first and see whether or not it would accomplish anything within a few decades?

This i find slightly annoying but mostly just humerous! You make what most would consider to be a bold and completely rediculous theory (which I will try to explain why it's simply wrong) and then tell others to prove you wrong! That would kinda be like me stating that if you punch yourself in the throat in the right spot and enough times you can adapt your vocals to speak lower or higher.... Well if that doesn't sound medically sound or even remotely like an intelligent thing to do, why don't you just try it and prove me wrong!

Now here is why I disagree with your "theory"...

Porn although it can be addicting has many many different flavors... By your theory you are stating that if somebody were to watch porn long enough they would eventually start ot like gay porn, or midget porn... Maybe sado or animal... However not only does your theory not have any evidence or backing, it lacks any structure! People have different fetishes, some like feet while others like pulling hair... Some like feathers and whipped cream while others like scratching and hot candle wax...

I assure you right now that I could be forced to watch porn 5 hours a day 5 days a week for 2 years and never would I enjoy seeing a man or woman take a crap on the other and then continue to have sex, I would never enjoy seeing a dog penitrate a girl, and I would never even come close to enjoy seeing a young child be taken advantage of!

Your theory is both ill manored and slightly offensive!

I think it should absolutely be allowed. Maybe not freely available on the Internet, but it certainly shouldn't be against the law to draw or own drawings of ANIMATED pornography.

There is no victim. What's the crime? It's not against the law to BE a pedophile. It's against the law to act on it. There's a clear line between thought and action that must be maintained. Looking at cartoons is in the realm of thought.

IF a person goes out and ACTS, then they should pay the price.

Being attracted to young women is a thought crime. the government with all of its God given wisdom has decided that the male libido in itself is a threat to the power that be. Up until the last 100 years older men have been marrying much younger women. It was not uncommon for a 40 year old man to wed a 15 year old female. It was the introduction of feminism that made the natural desires of a man to be dirty and wrong. You only think that being attracted to a 15 year old female is dirty and wrong only becuase you have been programmed to think that through media and feminist women. It is a time tested fact that as soon as a girls body begins to develop all men start to want to have sex with her.

If society collapsed and we had ww3 fathers would offer thier daughters for marriage. The truth is that no man actually wants to wed a whore. american women above the age of 13 are not virgins. The less experience a woman has the better.

Personally if the images depicts an image. and the image looks like a child. a physically immature child. then yeah that needs to be illegal.

i say hunt ALL pedophiles down & castrate them....and any sick person willing to make pedophile cartoon's..if they make cartoons of little kid's having sex...they are pretty much just as sick as the pedophile.

Here is the deal: Art is done with a theme or some sort of vision. Porn is just a sexally explicit scene meant to tittilate the more immature viewers and give them fantacy to recall later.

ART is plainy NOT just another beaver shot in a cheap mag....I saw an artist showing his work and it included nudes of all ages, many older, but a really neat display that showed hoe our bodies change thru life. Taken as a whole, it flowed and the viewer did not linger on the parts that showed nudity because that was not the issue and the issue was more entrancing then what sopmeone else's booty looked like. Serious art should NOT be taken away because some cop has personal issues that make him think nthat all human beings are evil and bad and ugly....thats why wear clothes!! Right? To hide our shame at being human?

The police that work these details get a fervor and almost a religious dedication to making sure that no girl....or to a lesser degree a guy,is able to show anything naked under any circumstances just in case .We had a case locally where a psychiatrist testified that a young victim of some abuse was UNABLE to get the kid to take the stand and testify with any verifiable truthfulness..in other words, the case was closed because the girl could not adequately keep it together on the stand....4 years old.

So what does the lady detective that worked the case do? She ignores the Dr. and bullies and badgers and insists on making sure that the girl got on the stand and told a tale, rehearsed by the cop and the kid over and over with the kidending up just reading a script that the lady cop made up...who knows how far from the truth thatn was? Experts say the kiod cannot testify, yet a COP decides all on her own to refuse that advice and bully the kid into the system and onto the stand on a video link so the defendant did not even get to confront his accuser directly...this is always done so that the kids don't feel ' afraid ' even though they are in a regular courtroom most the time with no problems..it is a way of isolating the defendant and making sure he is not able to put on an effective trial.

There should be NO restrictions of photography as long as the images are not obvioulsy catering to the porn market, with the sexual organs emphasized or otherwise plainly appealing to lesser and more depraved conduct. If the real images can be done away with forever, many kids will be saved a bad scene....if ALL porn and such nastiness was computer generated and fake then no problem...let the freaks look at it all they wantg. BUT, if they cross the line and do anything at all with a real human being then they should fry,and for a long time.

I would ban it.

Why?

Simple

It had "Child and Pornography " in the same sentence






Best Regards,

Richie

Im with the op on this one....some dirty f***er told me one of the sickest jokes ive ever heard, he said what do pedo's use as lube? tears!....while he was breaking his stones laughing i nearly lost the plot! I think everything is open to a few jokes but that is just sick.