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Illegal Immigrant Files False claim and Wins with absolutely no proof

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posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 05:57 PM
If this isn't posted in the right place please let me know.

First I'd like to say that I truly am looking for a lawyer and would like to sue NY State, NYS Workers Comp, Judge Robert Anderson who resided over my case (and is dumber than a bag of rocks) and the Nassau County Police Department.

I Had an illegal immigrant file a false claim with NYS workers Comp Board (NYS WCB). To begin with his form was full of major discrepencies and the case should be tossed just for the paper work being wrong.What the judge based his decision on was speculation and personal motive, not the actual facts of the case.He only used the testimony from the last 2 hearings which he requested on record and the statements he used were statements the claimant contradicts in my cross examination of him.

Anyway I have every word from every hearing and my story is consistent and calimant contradicts himself from one hearing to the next, sentence to sentence and even 3 times w/in a sentence.

I told the judge that for starters I'm not a business which i'm not and from the homeowners testimony was proven that I was working by the day for said homeowner as an employee. The only way this claim could be possible is if somebody took down my plate # and got my personal info and was following me from job to job which, in a later hearing was verified by the Illegal immigrant's own testimony (on record).

I told the judge somebody was following me around taking pics of me at my house and feared for the safety of my wife and 3 kids. I asked the judge if they did a criminal background check because he could be a rapist, pedophile or murderer and if he was even a legal citizen. On record I have judge state "We don't care wether he's legal".

I have testimony on record of the Illegal Piece Of S**t stating that he got my personal info by giving Nassau co PD my plate #. Isn't this illegal. I know the freedom of info Law (FOIL) but you have to be a citizen and they only disclose certain info.I basically had an illegal immigrant stalking me and my family over the course of a year building a case.

It goes on to end after 1 year and 2 mos and when I leave I'm 100% positive I won. I recieve a letter saying I lost case and owe him $16,000. The best part is NYS WCB sends me a letter stating I owe them $40,500 for no insurance coverage for said period. When his own lawyer asks him who he was working for in january of 2007 (time of accident) he states oscar and fernando who own a cement company.

There's sooo much inconsistency w/his testimony and if anybody read the transcribed minutes you would see I won the case.The judge ruled in favor of the claimant because the judge's employer (NYS WCB) receives a settlement which is a conflict of interest.I'm currently appealing the decision and requested that the judge and NYS WCB be investigated.

Basically what I'm asking is if anybody is or knows a lawyer or what type of lawyer to use I would appreciate it. I am looking for a consultation so they can see my evidence and know it's a real case. I would like it to get as much publicity as posssible to show the corruption of our state and federal agencies. I want to be compensated for my time wasted and the stress. The harassing threatening letters claiming garnishing of wages and imprisonment if not paid.

They literally are trying to fianancially ruin me and take the money that goes to feeding my children and putting a roof over their heads and clothes on their back.Endagering the weflare of a minor (3 counts) and altering my children's lives by throwing me in jail. I told them they will have to kill me.Emotional distress,slander defamation of character, pain and suffering and whatever else can be added. The same way they would add charges to me if it was the other way around.

They have violated my civil/constitutional rights. Discrimination. Article 4 section 4 of the constituion. Aiding and abbetting the enemy. Harboring a fugitive. Technically they committed an act of treason.They don't uphold the laws they themselves have passed yet uphold it to a false claim against me becasause I'm a citizen and they can get something from me.

If you have any questions or info which can help me,I would be more than greatly appreciative. I personally neve get involved in polotical issues but they have just made it personal. I'm a very stubborn and persistent man and will not stop until I win or they kill me. I refuse to sit by idly and let people ruin my families lives. If I was single, it wouldn't matter because it would be a physical issue not a long corrupt court proceeding.

Again I am begging for your help to try and do this hte proper way for my children's futures. I'll do them no good dead or in jail. Thanks.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:15 PM
The Judicial system is so #ed, there is no hope for repair. Take my word for it. I Know. There is probably little you can do. I feel your pain though.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:18 PM
reply to post by AgnosticX

Believe me I know, But there's someone out there capable of handling this situation properly. Especially becasu I have the proof right from the horses mouth.

I was never one for litigation but I'm doing this for my family and the truth. That's the problem. Everyone walks by but no one stops to help.I wanna open NY a new hole.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:36 PM
reply to post by 19DCW71

Did you hire the man?
I don't know any legal advice. Except if he was illegal, then I don't see why anyone would let him win.............

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:44 PM
Good luck finding any lawyer who would sue a judge. You could get one to sue God though.

Second problem, if you find the lawyer, is to find a court that will hear the case unless you are suing God. There are numerous cases which will never see the light of day simply because the court doesn't want to hear it.

And don't think the lawyer you hire is going to put a case together for you. He probably won't go passed the basic facts until the court date when he will slip in and try to BS his way through the hearing, just like he did in college.

Face it, the system is broke. And a class action lawsuit will only begin a repair which will take years. Not to mention, you'll have to find a court to hear the class action suit as well.

From my experience I've learned the only difference between comedy clubs and courts is one's ability to drink.

I would be interested to hear more about why the claim was filed against you in the first place and why you didn't state you didn't hire this man. Life would have been so much simpler.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:46 PM
reply to post by Clearskies

No I didn't hire him because I am not a business. I was working for the homeowner as an employee by the day.

NYS let him win because it results in them receiving a settlement which is illegal. I have emails from records access officer in albany regarding his illegal status and they say that it doesn't affect the outcome of the decision.

They have rights. which unfortunately I don't. I wish they'd just treat me the same as an illegal immigrant and give me his rights considering being an American born citizen means nothing.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:52 PM
reply to post by garyo1954

I know the system is corrupt and that's why I need the right man to help me. The only hope is to get this mainstream media, to have any type of chance it needs publicity. I was debating whether or not to make a youtube videao because I emailed everyone and therir mother w/absolutely no replies (which I expected). News agencies,Ny senetors (Joseph Brune,Hillary Clinton,Padovan), Civil rights activists,church organizations.I tried everything I could think of which is why I ask you guys for help.

And It's not as simple as you may think because I told them from the first to last hearing I don't know him and never hired him. Believe me,if you read the transcribed minutes you wouldn't believ the decision was against me. The entire case was/is in my favor.

As far as why the claim was filed. According to him the time of accident was january 2007 and according to his testimony he was working for a latino company who hired him through his cousin. So he figures a white guy w/a van and tools must be a business so he follows me, takes pics and files a claim.

Whay else would an illegal immigrant file a claim? hey have more rights than you and you don't know it yet. I didn't think so until this. It's easy for them to manipulate the system w/the help of our state and govt resources. Wouldn't you if you were guaranteed a win win situation?

Even if I was a business I would never hire these guys because I been in this business for about 17 years and these guys keep costing me money. I can't compete w/the wages they accept besides the fact that they do horrible work and are a danger to those they work with.

Would yoy keep your current job if they asked you to work for half your current salary? I didn't think so. Yet this is asked of me in my field.

[edit on 28-6-2008 by 19DCW71]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 06:56 PM
reply to post by 19DCW71

That's basically what my husband does,
but, he hasn't found anything lately.
Not only are illegals taking our jobs, because they'll take 1 dollar less, but, then they are trying to turn on the competition. Us?
Predatory monopolies..

It's a shame people will pay illegal crews ahead of our men.

I did vinyl siding in the 90's and I only made $6.30 P/H.
Did you know the man AT ALL?

[edit on 28-6-2008 by Clearskies]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:00 PM
reply to post by Clearskies

I just edited my previous post to basically say what you posted. I know it's ridiculous.

If the politicians and judges started losing their jobs to illegal immigrants I guarantee you the immigration problem would be solved in a week.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:05 PM
reply to post by Clearskies

Don't know him, am not a business and if I was would never hire an illegal immigrant for the simple fact that they have wreaked financial havoc on my life and the quality of life I'm trying to give my kids.

Just so everyone's clear, this has nothing to do with hate for a different race because illegal immigrants come in all races. Its the illegal part and the State of NY ignores his crime and prosecutes me over here say.

Hypocritaical law with double standards for different races and religions.

If I said you did something you didn't and were prosecuted and lost, wouldn't you be furious? That's to say the least. this is why people take matters into their own hands. Why go through a system you know you're gonna lose at and waste time and money. Peopel act on impulse and then their labeled the maniac. I think this corrupt country deserves everything it gets. Unfortunately it's hte innocent people who reap what the Govt sows.

[edit on 28-6-2008 by 19DCW71]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:06 PM
Hmm, so tell us, what was the court case about? Acting sinister is not a crime, and you do not explain to us the whole incident. What are you hiding from public view?

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:09 PM
reply to post by 19DCW71

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles....
I hope you get a good resolution!
There are so many now, since the housing failures.
There are a LOT of smart people here. I'm sure someone can help!

Anyone hiring in the N.E. Georgia area???

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:12 PM
reply to post by Clearskies

That's pretty much what I thought. If you hired illegals, I wouldn't be making too much noise about anything. They are starting to come down hard on employing illegals. Not like a few years back where they encouraged it. Kinda like the downloading of mp3 files. First is was ok and then now it's not!

Edit Added:

Ooooops, spoke too soon. You where temp workers just the same as this guy.

There is in most states a 'Day Labor' law. You can hire a person for one day cash and it can be undocument. This means the worker can be undocumented. If this worker worked any longer than that. I realy don't see him having any legal binding.

I really amazes me how bold people are about hiring illegals. Where I live some construction companies only hire Mexicans and this is so obvious that most of them are illegals.

Boy if I had the money I would raise a rucuss about that company, but than if I had the money I would be living my life and not care.

That's how the system works.

[edit on 28-6-2008 by MrMysticism]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:13 PM
reply to post by ravenflt

I don't understand who "acting sinister is not a crime" is related to,Me or him. As far as what am I hiding,NOTHING.

I'm not trying to prove anything to the public because I'm not the type of guy who cares what people think. This is why I'm seeking a consultation w/a lawyer because I have the documentation and proof to anihilate this case.

I won this case outright and judge thought it would be an easy manipulation because I didn't have a lawyer so he probably figured I didn't know the law.I represented myself.

Maybe that was the deciding factor but believe me there's a long lengthy set of transcripts to list every detail. Every word from everone's testimony PROVES this case was horse S$$T.

You live in NY? If you do you can come over for a glance

[edit on 28-6-2008 by 19DCW71]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:18 PM
reply to post by MrMysticism
I agree,If I hired him you wouldn't hear a squeek outta me but I work for people. As far as it was ok now it's not. IN my eyes it was never ok because I always lost money. I've worked for friends running their business as foreman being the only white guy but had no choice to feed my kids.

I used to fight with them about this topic because they were killing people like me financially. It ain't right no matter how you look at it.Yeah they want a better life but in order for that people have to lower their own quality.

You know what? I want a better life but does that give me the right to take from you? Absolutely not!

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:26 PM
reply to post by 19DCW71

I understand the problem better than you might think. I've been to courtrooms where the judge says one thing, but does the opposite.

Read up on a Writ of Mandamus. Here is one filed by Bob Allston, a man who many might consider the first true American terrorist.

The Petition for Writ of Mandamus that I filed with the Second District Court of Appeal portrayed to these august appellate judges a picture that could not be described as other than a totally corrupt and degenerate self serving legal system in Lee County, much of it well documented, and covering issues far beyond the narrow and absurdly complex albeit very important issue of the right of appeal itself. For, as a review of the Petition indicates, many of the issues presented constituted, if corroborated, serious criminal offenses as well as gross due process and constitutional violations by many lawyers and judges.

These appellate judges also had just as much of a legal obligation to address this myriad of corrupt dealings under the dictates of the Florida CODE OF JUDICIAL CONDUCT as they did to straighten out the right of appeal issue; and addressing them was far more important to me than straightening out the right of appeal issue. For, if the legal system below were anything approaching honest, I probably wouldn't need to appeal.


Of the four people I have known trying to get Writ of Mandamus issues before a court, only Bob was successful. Last I heard from him he was sleeping on a bench at the jail.

I am sure Bob would agree, as I was quoted in the newspaper as saying, "Courts can be the most destructive event in a man's life."

If I can help you let me know.
I'm not a lawyer though.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:32 PM
reply to post by ravenflt

Sorry but i don't think I answered your question. The court case is that he fractured his foot. He said he was working for me and fell off a ladder. Not a hard concept when I drive around in a van with ladders on top.

He probably broke his foot playing Futbol (soccer).even on his claim form he states he broke his knee.In his testimony hecontradicts himself 3 times saying he broke hi knee then his ankle and finally foot.Anyway as I stated he said he was following me around taking pics. He had one picture of my van and even with the picture he gave the wrong color of my van in his testimony over 5 times.

I wish everyone could read the transcript because you would have to literrally be a brain dead spaz to think anything else. If you read it you wouldn't believe it possible for the judge to even try to pass off his decision.As I stated I am currently appealing it and it's been weeks and I haven't heard anything yet.

The appeals judges can't say I left out anything. I broke it down by using what the judge based his desicions on and ripped that appart then listed FACTS and every single contradiction. Every thing was also labeled by court date hearing and page w/quotes. There's NO way they can let this slide by. I also beleived the same to be true with the first case, but I was wrong.

[edit on 28-6-2008 by 19DCW71]

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:42 PM

Originally posted by 19DCW71
As far as it was ok now it's not. IN my eyes it was never ok because I always lost money. I've worked for friends running their business as foreman being the only white guy but had no choice to feed my kids.

Same here bro. They kiss everybodys butt but you and they mess everything up in the process for you to correct, but in the long run who gets laid off because he is skilled?....


I don't know about the politics, but I do know that illegals are being hired in every line of work.

Well, I'll let you get back to your legal issue.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:43 PM
reply to post by garyo1954

I basically did hte same in my appeal addressing the issues of the judicial system and the facts of the case though not worded quite as well considering I only have a ninth grade education.

I don't care so much about the system because as far as I'm concerned it will never be right. I did request that I not only want my desicion overturned but that the judge and board be investigated.

This is why I need a lawyer for all the laws and loopholes because I haven't a clue. As far as jail I had my share when I was younger so I'm no stranger and it's been over 10 years. I don't wish it but can deal with it if I have to and that would be one more for the lawsuit. Destroying my childrens life by taking away their stability.

I appreciate the offer but unless you know of any lawyers or other way for me to get justice. Thanks though.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:44 PM
Hello Brother I see you are having problems to say the least. I have been in search of work for about 9 weeks now and no luck. I said this to say that the "ILLEGAL INVADERS" are taking work from me and others I know. The simple fact is they "DO NOT" work for much less than me. I work on average for 15-16 hr. If you stop off in the parking lots where they hang out and try to give them 9-10 an hr. they will just laugh at you. Here in Ga. it is coming to you or me. I cannot believe that an "ILLEGAL INVADER" took you to court and the judge took his side. That is just sick as it can be. I know the time is getting short for all these in power over us for the simple fact, that they stand with the wrong side on almost every issue. Stay Strong and don't let this get you down because you have little ones to feed and that is the only truly important thing to keep your eye on at this time in history. One more thing is that the "INVADERS" have such a following such as people believing their "LIES" about they just want a better life. The truth is they in the most part from military back grounds or criminals, in which they use criminal tactics to gain grounds over us. They must be stopped or this will end in a very bad way. I use "INVADER" because they are not IMMIGRANTS because immigrants use the legal way to become citizens and invaders DO NOT!!!

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