Stunning STS-75 "Tether" secret revealed, page 2
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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 04:59 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by easynow
got any links to this ?


The board offered, in the form of observations, its assessment that the STS-75 tether problem "is not indicative of any fundamental problem in using electrodynamic tethers." It also noted that in spite of the break, a "significant amount" of scientific data was obtained from the Tethered Satellite operations during STS-75.


www.thelivingmoon.com...

The board found that the arcing burned away most of the tether material at that location, leading to separation of the tether from tensile or pulling force. The break occurred when approximately 12.2 miles (19.7 km) of tether was unreeled, in a period when the tether was experiencing normal stresses of approximately 15 pounds (65 newtons).

In addition to the two primary causes for the tether break, the board cited, as one contributing factor, that "the degree of vulnerability of the tether insulation to damage was not fully appreciated." The board noted that the actual environment that the tether was exposed to in flight made it more vulnerable to damage than was expected. And, it noted that the high voltages under which the system was operating could, over a period of time, have reduced the ability of the tether insulation to withstand electrical breakdown due to contamination found in the tether.


www.thelivingmoon.com...

EARLY FINDINGS FROM TETHERED SATELLITE MISSION
POINT TO REVAMPING OF SPACE PHYSICS THEORIES

Numerous space physics and plasma theories are being revised or overturned by data gathered during the Tethered Satellite System Reflight (TSS-1R) experiments on Space Shuttle Columbia’s STS-75 mission last March

www.thelivingmoon.com...


Arcing in Progress



Arcing damage to panel ..



Its called an Electrodynamic Tether designed to collect high energy electrons in the Earth's ionosphere and electromagnetic field. The motion of the tether across the Earth's magnetic field produces a voltage along the 12 mile tether.

Utilizing estimates in the charged density of the earths electromagnetic field and the ionosphere the voltage produces is expected to be several hundred volts per kilometer. If successful this experiment could produce a lot of electrical power. If additional power is driven along the tether in the opposite direction to that in which it normally wants to flow the tether in theory could push negating propulsion against the Earth's gravity to raise the shuttles orbit.

The advantage to this revolutionary advance in propulsion is that it does not require any rocket fuel If successful electrodynamic tethers could prove a way to greatly decrease the cost of in space propulsion. For example the ISS could keep itself in orbit saving nearly 2 billion dollars in orbit reboost rocket fuel for every 10 years of the stations operation

But on Feb. 25 after the 12 mile tether began producing electricity an unexpected overload in electrical energy fluctuating between 2 and 10 times that which predicted due to inaccurate estimates in the electrical charge in the earths magnetic field, ionosphere, and possibly space radiation fried the tethers conductor cable and it broke severing it from the space shuttle..."

Now SecretNasaMan has said in other threads that he IS Martyn Stubbs... I would like to verify that



Why because I am 'critter hunting'

I also have MANY more official NASA papers on this 'incidence' but few here at ATS have shown much interest except the skeptics who THINK they know it all


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 05:13 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by secretnasaman
This electricity somehow caused the UFOs to swarm it for days.


The principal is really very simple..

draw a copper wire through a magnetic field it collects electricity... take a twelve mile long copper wire and drag it through the earths ionosphere at orbital speed of 17,500 miles per hour and you get lots of electricity...

Once the overload fried the connection the wire is still traveling and collecting, but the collected plasma has no where to go and you get the glow around the wire which is what you see at 85 nautical miles...

Thunderstorms build up a charge in a similar way though a different mechanism (water molecule rubbing together) but when the charge gets high enough you get a plasma discharge to ground... we call that lightning

Guess what lighting is free energy So is the tether... but in space free floating there is nowhere for the charge to seek ground so you get a 'fluorescent tube' like effect

And that one 380 page report I ordered from NASA explains how this problem also effects spacecraft (which are metal) as they also collect this energy...

Imagine walking on a carpet and touching a door knob amplified hundreds of times... but no door knob to lose the charge...

Now imagine an unsuspecting spacecraft approaching for docking... do I need to spell it out?

Effect of this problem on an ESA craft solar panel





Funny you never see THIS stuff on News at Eleven



Now if you were REALLY Martyn you would know more of this

[edit on 8-8-2008 by zorgon]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 05:56 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
i get a kick out of you people,, you actually think all that space dust were flying saucers zooming around to see a big long rope??? Man no wonder P.T. Barnum made a bundle out of faking wierd things. I believe he said there was a sucker born every minute.. hmmmm


Anonymous ATS, I hope you get also a kick out this, how do you explain your space dust theory when you clearly see them flying behind the tether in the video zorgon provided?

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post by zorgon



And how big do you estimate those “space dust particles” must be then when you compare the size of them in relation with the length of the tether and cable [12 mile long]?
It must be flying Space Mountains then if I am correct.

And listen carefully to what the astronaut is saying; there is a little bit of debris that is flying with us.

Can you imagine that he said it is flying with us while the distance to the tether is some 80 nautical miles away from the space shuttle?

Great questions you asked here zorgon.

Originally posted by zorgon
The tether is 12 cm in diameter... when it is filmed it it 85 nautical miles away... does no one question why it is visible? Even Mission control says "its wider than expected"


Could it be that it is visible because it moves through Earth magnetic field and becomes therefore constantly electrical charged and started emitting light particles or such?

Originally posted by zorgon
Does no one question why they are filming this in infrared?


Because if it was not filmed in infrared you probably won’t see the objects.

Originally posted by zorgon
Does no one question why one of the 'swarm' moves across the screen slowly in an ARC... then as it goes off screen on the right the camera zooms out to keep it in sight and it is now moving DOWN the screen?


Please explain that because I don’t know the meaning of ARC.



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[edit on 8/8/08 by spacevisitor]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 09:15 AM by Fathom
reply to post by zorgon


Z, is it your opinion that these ufo's were actually living creatures attracted to the energy given off by the tether similar as aquarium fish all swarm anything that is dropped into the aquarium?


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:24 AM by gotanybob
reply to post by Steve B



Think of the tether as a bolt of lightning..A bolt of lightning is actually a very small diameter but seems much bigger as it can be seen from many miles away..Thats no camera fault or trick..That tether has been energized..


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:31 AM by ArMaP
reply to post by InfaRedMan



I don't have any opinion about that, I never educated myself about HAARP.



reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:56 AM by AntisepticSkeptic
This footage has been reasonably well explained as ice particles as seen by an out of focus camera; these ice particles are often found near manned space craft, and are generally associated with the craft's waste systems and other onboard fluids-

Or, debris immediately outside the cockpit, exhibiting the same halo effect.

www.rense.com...



"If you look at enough video, you see this as a standard out-of-focus effect,'' he said. "This particular camera system isn't designed for low light levels and it's being pushed beyond its specifications in order to zoom in on the tether. Under these conditions, the tether itself looks bizarre, because it's only as thick as a phone cord, maybe an eighth of an inch. But because the image intensifier is turned all the way up, what we see is a phantom thickness that's not real.


As Oberg mentioned in his article, there can be "bleed over" to adjoining camera pixels. Similar things happen in other cases - artifacts in SOHO images, for instance.

But in my personal opinon these things looks like Space Bagels to me.

And the REAL question the believers should ask is "Can space bagels be ordered with sesame seeds and cream cheese?"

MmmmmMMMMmmmm space bagels....

[edit on 8-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:03 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Anonymous ATS, I hope you get also a kick out this,



Anon posters like that deserve to be kicked out the airlock for a closer look at that 'dust' preferably without the space suit


And how big do you estimate those “space dust particles” must be then when you compare the size of them in relation with the length of the tether and cable [12 mile long]?


Couple miles in diameter on some... there is one that is great to measure with

Comes in from the left...



Clearly goes behind the tether and not that far behind...









It must be flying Space Mountains then if I am correct.


No not a mountain they are flatter like an amoeba

And the 'young' are spheres or 'orbs'




Please explain that because I don’t know the meaning of ARC.


Typo left off the H ARCH or curve... Things like dust and debris CANNOT move in a curve in space, nor can they change direction...

Go back to the video after seeing the next set of clips and watch this one's path

Watch this one closely as it moves in a curve over the 'top' (film orientation) of the tether... then when it is past it it goes straight down the screen as they zoom out to keep it in site...

This one is also very bright and pulses... something I will show next post



Notice that from the previous frame it has also turned 180 degrees as the notch is now down...











Now it started low on the left, arched over (or around) the end of the tether and watch it after my last clip it now goes straight DOWN

To the 'dust and debris' crowd please explain how a free floating particle in space.. would accomplish a CURVED trajectory and a SLOW and drastic change in direction

Nope on second thought... never mind



[edit on 8-8-2008 by zorgon]


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 01:40 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by zorgon



An out of focus object, specially a bright one, can look like it is going behind another bright object, and the shape of the "amoeba" is a result of the way the lens is made.

Edit:

This may not show it as good as I wanted to, but it is visible that the string looks like it is casting a shadow over red disc, when that was not the situation, the red disc (a light from PocketPC) was in front of the string and very near the camera.



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