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Originally posted by reject
reply to post by miriam0566
Where did I say Jesus Christ is Yahweh?
Originally posted by reject
He didn't just have a divine aspect but was God who became man.
Clearly Paul understood Jesus Christ was no man.
Galatians 1:12
For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came to me through revelation of Jesus Christ.
The true Christ is god, therefore the Vice-Christ must claim to be God also. In the canon law the pope is
called God.( Decretum Gregorii XIII. Destinc 96, Can 7.) Again he is called "Lord and
God" (Decretales Gregorii IX., Tit. 7.) And again Innocent says in the decretals, speaking
of the Pope, :God because he is God's vicar." The cannon law and the decretals are called
by Romanist writers the pope's oracle, they are a true expression of the pontifical mind.
To the same effect the papal casuists say, "As Christ was God, he too was to be looked on
as God." The Sacrum Ceremoniale has the phrase, "The apostolic Chair is the seat of
God." "The Roman Pontiff" says the Decretum of Gregory, "not as mere man, but as true
God, reigns in the earth." (Daubuz, 581.)Sir Culling E. Smith, in a tour in Italy, found a book published 1794, with
the title: -"History of the Ancient Republic of Amalfi, dedicated to the Vice-god Benedict
XIII. With permission of superiors."( Decret. Greg. I. 7, 3.)
Do you disagree with God Yahweh?
Hebrews 1:6-8
And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. (7) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his ministers a flame of fire: (8) but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Originally posted by reject
reply to post by miriam0566
that doesn't say Yahweh, now, does it?
Originally posted by reject
Hebrews 1:6-8And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. (7) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels winds, And his ministers a flame of fire: (8) but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Do you disagree with God Yahweh?
You side with those who killed him.
John 5:18
For this cause therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only brake the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Originally posted by reject
Jesus,himself, taught he was GodYou side with those who killed him.
John 5:18
For this cause therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only brake the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Jesus, himself, taught he is God.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by reject
Jesus,himself, taught he was GodYou side with those who killed him.
John 5:18
For this cause therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only brake the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
actually, if you read the scripture, your siding with the ones who killed, after all, they too thought jesus was calling himself god.
and you are ignoreing the fact that jesus himself clarifies this.
hate to say this, but your cherry picking. you pick one or 2 scriptures that make it sound like jesus is GOD but you ignore the rest of the gospels that say he isnt.
you side with those who killed him.
John 10:31-38
The Jews took up stones again to stone him. (32) Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from the Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? (33) The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken), (36) say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? (37) If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. (38) But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.
In standard evangelical commentary, two texts from Paul’s writings are constantly used to teach the personal preexistence of Christ: Philippians 2:5-11 and Colossians 1:15-20. These texts are considered to be bulwarks of Trinitarian theology, expressing in some sense Christ’s status as Deity.
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. In Philippians 2:5, for instance, Paul declares he is holding forth the historical example of the man Christ Jesus (as in 1 Tim. 2:5), not some prehistoric example into which can be read ideas of personal preexistence. Can the same be said to be true of Colossians 1:15-20?...
... Verse 15 tells us that God’s “beloved Son” (v. 13, NASB) is the “image” of the unseen God. An image, of course, is a visual representation, the copy of an original. The very fact of using a word such as “image” suggests necessarily that there is a difference in identity between the copy and the original.....
...There is, however, in Scripture a further meaning to the term prototokos. Since the Greek word protos can mean either first in time or first in rank, the “firstborn” may be used to designate one who is honored with first or chief position, regardless of time of birth.....
...This foremost position as King of kings is a matter of appointment, not time of birth![5] These facts and this usage as to the word “firstborn” may well have much significance in helping us to understand how and why Christ can be called “the Firstborn of all creation” in Colossians 1:15.
... Moses had foretold that Messiah would be a prophet like Moses himself, whose word would have the force of law, demanding obedience (Deut. 18:15, 18, 19; Acts 3:22, 23). But what about his authority “in heaven”? Paul says that when Christ was raised from the dead and was set at God’s right hand in the “heavenlies,” his new position brought him to a status “far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come” (Eph. 1:21). Not only that, but “God placed all things under his feet” (v. 22). Colossians 1:17 echoes this, in saying that “in him all things hold together.” Col. 2:10 describes him as “the head over every power and authority.” God rewarded Jesus’ “obedience unto death” by highly exalting him and giving him the name which is above every name....
... All things cohere in Christ and provide a coherent meaning to the universe. He is the reason for it all, because he is God’s only-begotten Son, the perfect image of the Father himself! Another definition is “to have one’s proper place.” All things in the universe have their own proper place, designed by the Creator, YHWH, to be in perfect relationship and harmony with “the Son whom God loves” (v. 13)...
...Christ’s headship over the church is a frequent theme in Paul’s writings. Verse 18 declares that headship, and goes on to call him arche, “beginning” (KJV, NIV, NASB). This word also means “ruler, authority.”
Since his resurrection to bodily immortality and his being granted “all authority in heaven and earth” Christ is exalted by his Father to the highest place in the universe, next to God himself, and is given the highest name (Phil. 2:9). He can be described, therefore, as possessing the fullness of the Deity. How could his preeminence be emphasized more powerfully than this? But all of this is short-circuited and spoiled by Trinitarian notions and the teaching of Christ’s personal preexistence!
I just want to put some of this Trinity stuff to rest and focus on what a horrible mess we on Earth have to live in, as a result of the adoption of this false theology of Trinity.
If you want to hold to this false philosophy, my advice is to kneel down and kiss the ring of your overlord.
I choose to have Jesus, as my Lord and King and representative of God, on Earth.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Spiritual Anarchy! Believe not what you were taught, but what the creator has shown you.
what if god showed us the bible?