Worst child abuse in history - dont read if easily upset

WHY SHOULD MY TAXAS MAINTAIN MY RAPIST ALIVE? WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SPEND MY LIFE KNOWING I AM SUPPORTING THE MAN THAT RAPED ME? OR KILLED MY KID? does that sound right? fare? in my eyes pedoflies rapists serial killers and company should be tied to a pole and wet with honey and then let nature take its course (eat them alive slowly)mabey like this the rest of the scum would think twice. bring back the death penilty it is very need or ask me how to get rid of them with out useing tax money trust me i can come up with some cool ways of makeing them suffer and die...

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Originally posted by mOOmOO
This is a breach of EU Human Rights. You are not allowed to imprison somebody "indefinitely", regardless of the crime.

What about all the people he abused? His support of abuse by having pictures? These kids wil suffer for the rest of their lives because of this man, if you ever talked to someone who wa abused you would maybe have more of a passion for the issue.

This man is sick, paedophiles have been shown over and over that they reoffend and cannot be cured. Once they have crossed the line and commited acts with a child, or collected pornography showing children, hen i'm afraid prison for life is the best thing for society. I don't agree with the death penalty and i think reactions of that can't are base and animalistic.
However this man cannot be allowed back out into society where he will at some point come into contact with a child. This man is a predator and like all predators he should be safely locked away.

Life in prison, sounds fine to me, good on th judge.

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DEMONS they are. Agree with you wholeheartedly. These psychopaths always re-offend precisely because they have no heart/conscience or soul. Unfortunately the US Supreme Court has decided that paedophiles should not be executed precisely because some of the most powerful people on earth are paedophiles of the most decrepit and bloodthirsty kind. I understand three thousand children go missing every day of the year in the US. Well where do you think they tend to end up and why is the media not crying out. Why aren't the parents ever heard. As for the procurement of babies - I wouldn't put it past the powerful elitists to have their own 'breeding farms'. Some day mankind will wake-up to the reality of the Nephilim Clans and exterminate them. Every country suffers from these evil ones and has done for thousands of years.

I don't suppose many of you people ever considered the possibility that these people should be studied to determine what caused them to become what they are,they did not get that way "Just Cuz".
They come from what seem like normal families usually,the parents who are busy working,trying to support their kids,hire a sitter or relative to care for their kids while they are out chasing their hollow dreams.
The family suffers,the kids suffer,everyone suffers.These people come from neglect and abuse,they don't just pop out of the ground like weeds.
And the legal BS system wont' fix it because if they did they would be out of a job.
Most of you are so incredibly clueless.

Originally posted by realshanti
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I hear you but some folk on this thread are ignoring the fact that when you PURCHASE pics like these you are assisting and enabling the rape of babies - peeps don't GIVE pics like this away - they cost $$$$ - that money goes to up the food chain to the perpetrators....so when one owns those kind of pics one is not innocent of simply "looking"....

Actually, you are wrong about this. Most of the hard core pedophiles are not in it for the money, if they were, it would make it easier for law enforcement to track them down -- the only technique of "follow the money." The hard core pedophiles deal porn on a barter system or make it available for free in chat rooms and the like in order to connect with fellow pedophiles. Most of the serious porn trading takes place in tight little groups where admission to the group is a bit like a gang initiation -- provide us with the most extreme porn or some of your own homemade kiddie porn and we will let you in.

Most of the really big busts have taken place when someone managed to infiltrate one of these tightly knit and well protected groups in order to finally bring them down. Those who analyze the chatter that does on in these groups, say that members hold those who download child porn from websites or post child porn without elaborate security precautions in great disdain, for example many of these people use their own credit cards to but the stuff (remember Peter Townshend of the Who?).

And of course there are always those, usually organized crime organizations, willing to make a buck of these suckers. This has been a lucrative business for the Russian Mafia, but, oddly enough, it is not the porn that makes them the really big money. What they do is get a sucker to provide them with a credit card number for "adult verification" purposes and then max out the guy's credit card within hours.

But, it is these small groups of pedophiles that operate in secret that are the ones that need to be stopped since. more often than not, they also produce the kiddie porn in addition to sharing it, and that means that some child is being hurt somewhere. The sad part is that these pedo groups operate for years without detection, in fact there was an article recently about one that was busted just by accident -- they were using a community website in another country as a transfer point for porn, and a sysadmin just happened to see a file that that got him suspicious. Good job by the sysadmin! One of the main barriers to brining down these groups is that their membership often includes lawyers, judges and law enforcement officers who are able to use their understanding of investigation, security and legal matters to evade detection.

So it's not the money that fuels kiddie porn at its most abusive levels, the worst offenders make it and give it away for free because it is a sexual thrill for them. Google the case of "Kylie Freeman" and hear her story. Her father abused her from her pre-teen years and was a prolific poster of her abuse, and without changing anyone. Thank god he's now in custody after years of abuse, and bravo to Kylie for going public and educating us on what happens from a victim's point of view.

Just disgusting abuse. The worst part is how little punishment is given to some of these scum of the earth monsters. Just on the news last night a women starves her 3 yr old to death and just gets 12 years! Just 12 YEARS!! That bitch should have been given the death sentence. Sorry for out burst but it kills me that so many scums are allowed back into society after such a short sentence. The worst abuse however is in the occult that happens in secret everyday. And very heavily linked to the Illuminati. The saddest part of earth is this happens all the time and now the system is over run with them within the system. As far as I am concerned any person who has been proved 100% to be abusive to children should be killed and out of this world forever!

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Although absolutely sickening, killing a man for possessing pictures is extreme and shows your own blood lust more than the defendant's.

How the hell can you defend anyone possessing pictures of babies being raped, what kind of sick person are you?

THERE IS NO DEFENSE FOR THAT WHATSOEVER.

And you state that the people in this thread are WORSE than that pervert. You are insane.

Originally posted by optimus fett
I will never, never, never be made to feel guilty for the hatred i have for these demons - i wont be made to feel like a bad person because they bring out the deep rooted inner genetic code that was placed in us all to protect those that cannot protect themselves.

Well said.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Now that that's out of the way, lets look at this logically instead of passionately shall we?

And all the people foaming at the mouth at this crime (which is horrendous) might do well to accept that your initial reaction may not be the most appropriate.

Are you just trying to wind people up or what?

What kind of person reacts like you have? Ask yourself that.

Has anyone checked your computer harddrive lately?

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Personally, I'd be in favor of chemical or physical castration for this guy, if he actually created the offensive material. This is a way to prevent his likelihood of acting again.
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Capitol punishment is a symbol of a weak, immature and primitive society. Societies need to be tested in this way by the most sick, twisted and perverse individuals. That's when we find out what we are really made of. Are we killers, or do we have more to offer than that.

So, you think that he should not be punished for watching babies being raped? Are you insane? Or what else are you?

Also, chemical castration has been used on those types of offenders but it doesn't work for several reasons. As well as it not being 100% effective they still have their hands and mouth and other instruments that they rape children with. There have been high profile cases about it and research papers published.

Your argument about being 'killers' is naive and dumb. By that example you think someone is weak to defend themselves. From all your posts in this thread so far it is clear you think that the weak should just live with evil while you defend baby rapists.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
I've just been reading all of these flaming posts about this man needing to be killed, brutally raped, thrown in a meat grinder and such and just lashed out. The idea that a anyone had a genetic predisposition for the above types of actions just made me angry and fly off.

Welcome to ATS! Home of the kneejerk reaction!

So, YOU feel perfectly calm about a man raping a baby and you say that YOU think baby rape should be approached from a logical point of view BUT you fly off in anger at a post on an internet forum that upsets you!

YOU NEED TO SERIOUSLY RETHINK YOUR PRIORITIES.

Also, you have a low opinion of ATS members to make that statement.

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You are so wrong it beggars the imagination...They "love" children? BS! These losers have no control over any aspect of their sorry little lives so they attempt to exercise control over something weaker than themselves, a child.

Rape is about control, not misplaced, or even corrupted, love.

The death penalty for these monsters out of our darkest nightmares is not a punishment...it's more akin to destroying a mad dog...

We don't torture a mad dog, it wouldn't understand, neither would these monsters. Just slip a little something into their veins and let them die. God will see to the punishment warranted for their crimes...no real sense in darkening our own souls. Don't mistake me...I loathe and despise these monsters with every fibre of my being...but torture accomplishes exactly nothing save the darkening of our own souls.



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Originally posted by EverythingYouDespise

Personally, I find babies to be much more of a sexual deterrent than a stimulant, but philosophically, I'd say it's better for them to suffer abuse than an older child who could potentially be scarred for life because of it.

You are sick.

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I've tried a number of times to express the level of outrage I feel at the cold blooded, and heartless streak you've just exposed for all to see. Words fail me...

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It seems to me your sole existence is based around coming on ATS and saying the most horrible thing you can. Every thread that has high tensions, especially around the paedophile issue, you come on and justify it. In another thread you made even worse claims, i don't know why you fidn this entertaining but maybe you could let us discuss the issue at hand without trying to cause trouble?

Would be nice of you.

Originally posted by Lasheic
For that, and for the nature of the crime, I think he deserves life in prison. Hard labor, specifically. But not death.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical to speak out against cruelty and yet suggest that an OLD MAN should be forced into hard labor?

The only punishment that should even be considered for these types of crimes is isolation from potential victims.

I think it would even be a good idea to provide pedophiles with lifelike sex dolls designed to look and feel like children (similar to those Real Dolls they make to look like women). This way, they would be able to satiate their desires without causing any harm to another member of society.

If one is more open-minded, it is easy to find middle-of-the-road solutions to natural problems that are fair to both sides.

Originally posted by EverythingYouDespise
I think it would even be a good idea to provide pedophiles with lifelike sex dolls designed to look and feel like children (similar to those Real Dolls they make to look like women). This way, they would be able to satiate their desires without causing any harm to another member of society.

If one is more open-minded, it is easy to find middle-of-the-road solutions to natural problems that are fair to both sides.

Actually that wouldn't work at all, paedophiles are often creatures of power, they like having power over another person. It's almost the same as necrophilia, the want of a partner unable to reject, or that you can make do whatever you wish.

Whilst a doll may satiate them for a while, the old drive will come back to get the real thing, i'm sorry but prison for life is the only option for me. Whilst inside i don't see a problem with them working for free either, but i apply that to all prisoners not just paedophiles.

Originally posted by resistor



You do realize that most pedophiles were themselves abused as children, right? So where does your sympathy for abused children begin, and your ruthlessness towards the same people as adults end? At puberty? My point is not that we should allow such predators to roam free, but that we should see the problem as it really is, and address it at a much earlier stage. There’s only so much that can be done though, particularly in a society that makes sexuality a cornerstone of commerce and success. The sexual revolution has been a resounding failure IMO.

The circle has to be broken at some point, when they are old enough to commit an offence they are old enough to take responsibility.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by Everythingyoudespise

 

It seems to me your sole existence is based around coming on ATS and saying the most horrible thing you can. Every thread that has high tensions, especially around the paedophile issue, you come on and justify it. In another thread you made even worse claims, i don't know why you fidn this entertaining but maybe you could let us discuss the issue at hand without trying to cause trouble?

Would be nice of you.

Yeah, like most of you guys are really "discussing the issue at hand." Every other post is a vile suggestion of some sick, violent method of torturing or killing a man. All I've done is suggest that maybe we shouldn't react so harshly to someone who was born with different tastes than the majority of us.

As for your claims about my posting tendencies, I just went back and looked at a list of all of my posts here and I don't think what you're saying is supported by any evidence. Most of the subjects I've discussed here are related to politics or current events.

In your sig, you suggest we should fight for our freedoms. What about freedom of speech?