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Was Sitchin right or wrong??

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posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 03:41 AM
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Just wanna hear your opinions on Sitchins books and translations of the sumerian tablets. You think he was right with that or is it true that he has absolute no knowledge about Sumerians and the ancient writings.

Is he just a hoaxer or are the debunkers doing there work and trying to tell everybody he was wrong?!




posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 03:45 AM
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www.sitchiniswrong.com...
but thats just my opinion



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 03:50 AM
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I know that site. Interesting stuff.
But is that true?



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:48 AM
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As F.O.S as the Sitchin stories are, he probably believes what he says is correct. it probably started as fantasy but has convinced himself (and so many other gullables) that it is true.

He is very convincng and to a novice with only his word to go on can seem very believable but read a little and you will know.

That is the benefit of the doubt version.

My other opinion is that he his a blatant scammer trying to sell books. For those who strongly disagree with me and still hold hope that Nibiru is on its way, I have listed Sydneys Opera house on Ebay. Bids close at midnight so be quick!!!



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:51 AM
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Sitchin doesnt have a clue about any anicent texts. He is not even a trained archeologist, he's actually an economist. All other ancient text scholars disagree with him due to fact that the text can be interpreted as many different meanings......for some reason (hmmmm, could it be, say money?) Sitchin decided that he knew more than everyone else and wrote a book that millions of idiots bought and assumed was real



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 07:03 AM
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Sitchin is a man with a theory, he is a member of a small group of people who can translate the Sumerian cuneiform writings, those that object to his translation have as yet not offered any alternative...

This does not make Stichin right, although I really think he's doing a good job,
Ancient history is very important and theories are all we have, who knows what the truth is? it's up to every single one of us to either seek it or accept it,

Was Zecharia Sitchin right? I always have an open mind, I would suggest looking at his work as well as others and decide for yourself, it's about what you believe and nobody else.

and about Zecharia Sitchin's morality: I think he believes in his work..



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Devilnitro28
Just wanna hear your opinions on Sitchins books and translations of the sumerian tablets. You think he was right with that or is it true that he has absolute no knowledge about Sumerians and the ancient writings.

Is he just a hoaxer or are the debunkers doing there work and trying to tell everybody he was wrong?!


I don't believe much of what he has said.. but he did teach me new words.. just that,
his definintions were mostly wrong.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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It is my understanding that his translation of the cuneform ideograms is singular to him, i.e. no other person in the world with the knowledge of cuneform writing agrees with his translations... Have I missed something here? If you have a link thagt says anything other than this please post it. Frankly, I really enjoy reading Sitchin and was saddened when I found that NO ONE agrees with his translations.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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But what if he was right with his translation. You know sometimes you just get it and whoop there it is. Maybe like the breakthrough idea for some important device. HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!!



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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There is really no way of konwing the accuracy of his translations,
there is no scientific or logical evidence to support any of his claims.
This makes me very skeptical of his translation, his claims are highly illogical.
Any advanced race of aliens would not be so illogical and ineffecient.
I strongly suspect non scientific motives behind his translation.



posted on Jun, 27 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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I am not qualified to comment on his translations and have only recently read one of his books, End of Days, on the recommendation of a friend who says it is "the real deal". I found it to be interesting, with some ideas I have run across before.

All I can say is I HOPE he is wrong because otherwise the prospects for the human race are pretty dreary and we might as well just throw in the towel now and get it over with. I don't feel right thinking that way, so I'll go with my heart that says he is wrong.



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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To be honest I wasn't sure if Sitchin was the only man who had translated the sumerian text, off the top of my head I was sure he had help...



posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 05:39 AM
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Sitchins is wrong IMO. I use to think there could be some truth to his words but that was because for the longest time the only translations I could find where his. I was still a bit skeptical though so I kept digging for more information.

The first thing I came across to started making me think it was all wrong was how he had combined the 2012 connection from the mayan culture and mixed it in with Sumerian culture. I know some cultures tend to have ties in belief structure but the Mayan and Sumerian seem to far apart to have a connection.

For those who don't know the Mayan culture they had a calendar system one was called the short count and the other the long count. The short count if I remember right dealt with their holidays. The long count was an astronomy colander, basically calculations on where the stars should be in the sky. To this date their calculations are only off by seconds. The calendar ends officially on 2012. The mystery in it is no one knows exactly why it just stops there it just does. The main Mayan long count calendar ends there but most archeologist doubt it means the end the world or anything big will happen. That and they archeologist have found evidence that some Mayan scholars wrote about dates after 2012 it just that they are not part of the calander for some reason. If a remember right the farthest date written about was in the 41st century.

After learning that I started to notice how Sitchins tied in other cultures as well some close to Sumerian and other not even close. Then came his background as a few have said he is educated as an economist. He never once that I am aware of has show credentials for being in the archeology field or that he has any training in translating ancient languages. He basically has nothing what so ever to back up any of his claims except maybe a few reference to older forms of cuneiform deciphering. Yet most the time he doesn't even give any sources on how he came to his conclusions.

More and more he starts to remind of this old sci-fi writer by the name of L. Ron Hubbard.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by OWoutcast
The first thing I came across to started making me think it was all wrong was how he had combined the 2012 connection from the mayan culture and mixed it in with Sumerian culture. I know some cultures tend to have ties in belief structure but the Mayan and Sumerian seem to far apart to have a connection.


If there is a spacefaring nation involved as Sitchin claims then distance across Earth means nothing.



For those who don't know the Mayan culture they had a calendar system one was called the short count and the other the long count. The short count if I remember right dealt with their holidays. The long count was an astronomy colander, basically calculations on where the stars should be in the sky. To this date their calculations are only off by seconds. The calendar ends officially on 2012.


Apparently "Nibiru" has been sighted with the possibility that it might arrive at Earth around 2012.

If, as I suspect, the Annunaki (if they are the residents of Nibiru) is the "God" of the Bible then we have LOTS to fear. Millenia ago they were bloodthirsty (for a spacefaring nation). Now they are a few millenia more advanced... We can only hope that a) all of this is crap or b) becoming more advanced has made them peaceful.



After learning that I started to notice how Sitchins tied in other cultures as well some close to Sumerian and other not even close.


I repeat, a spacefaring nation can easily connect civilizations across the planet.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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Geez, I don't know. One thing I have learned is to believe nobody, but absorb all information like a sponge and see what connects with reality down the track. I guess we'll soon find out if Sitchin was right.
Nostradamus' "The great king of terror will come from the sky" would certainly fit in with his beliefs. This (if it happens) surely refers to some cosmic event. I doubt it was 9\11 because although those who witnessed it and were close to New York would certainly have been terrified, the majority of the rest of the world weren't - it was almost just like a movie to them. So if the "great king of terror" arrives, it must surely be witnessed on a global scale. The idea of "Nibiru" would fit in well with this prediction.
But who knows? It could also be meteorites, a comet, an alien invasion or even a hologram.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:12 AM
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Lannock it's not only earth distance between the Mayan culture and Sumerian culture. There is also a time factor involved the Sumerian culture was already about hundred year’s dead by the time the Mayans started there empire in South America. On top of that Mayans didn't even start there intellectual period until about nine hundred years after that.

1940 BC - Sumerian culture begins dying out

1800 BC - Mayan culture begins

900 BC - Mayan culture reaches its classical or intellectual period.

Now if you want the highly advanced space flight can adjust for the time difference as well as the distance from each of the cultures. Well then let's put stitchens god's to the test. If the Mayan culture was influenced by the Annunaki there should some evidence right? Not really actually the Mayans worship the sun, moon and oddly Venus. They where fascinated with the planet Venus and so it deserved worship more so then either the sun or the moon.

They did have god’s as well not just objects in the sky to worship. Yet there gods where always changing unlike the Greek there pantheon was not set in stone. It constantly changed the names and stories. There God’s seem to represent good and evil then actual beings from the depictions. To them good wasn't always victory and sometimes deserved to be punished and neither was evil the ultimate evil that would destroy the world. There gods are not really physical so much as they are representations of good and evil is all.

So if Sitchins Annunaki did visit the Mayans for whatever reason. The Mayans didn't seem to revere or even mention them in anyway. There isn't even a mention of some rogue planet in there astronomy.

Sitchins has a habit of never mentioning his credentials or anything else. on top of the fact him and many other people in his circle tie in events such as the 2012 and his Nibiru that to me have no connection or have no historical evidence to tie them together what so ever. That for me tells me he is wrong and out to just make money.



posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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If Sitchin is right then his Annunaki are the dumbest aliens in the universe.

They landed on Earth in their spaceships (which technologically were similar to pre WWII aircraft, relying on maps and visual aids to find their way to the landing sites) and then spent hundreds of thousands of years digging for gold using stone tools and antler picks. And when that got to be too much hard work, they genetically altered some homonids, creating homo sapien sapien - and then got them to dig for gold using stone tools and antler picks. If only they had our 19th century technology they'd have got all the gold they needed in a couple of years .......

Oh, and they couldn't count and haven't the faintest idea how many planets there are in the solar system, considering Pluto to be a planet but not the larger Eris or any of the many, many other dwarfs planets beyond Neptune. In fact, they thought the only bodies beyond Neptune were Pluto and their homeworld, Nibiru.



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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like erich von daniken, he's 50% insane and 50% brilliant.

the insane part is trying to fit everything together with incomplete and ambiguous info. i.e. the mayan-sumerian nonexistent connection.

if anyone was connected between the two continents it's Mayan-Phonoecian or possibly nordic-inuit.

as far as translation goes, no one even knows how it was pronounced, much less exact meanings.

you have to remember that most archaeologists have a fairly rigid paradigm concerning how the world was at any given time.

they simply assume these sumerians were primitives, and we are advanced.

I think there's plenty of evidence to suggest that sitchin and daniken are at least half right.

there is a planetoid recently discovered, traveling in an orbit that matches sitchin's description, and there's so much evidence of technology approaching and even surpassing our own in ancient societies.



posted on Jul, 3 2008 @ 10:54 PM
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oh, and also I think sitchin and daniken are going by archaeological timelines, not taking into account the 100,000 year known span of mankind's presence on earth.

in 100,000 years, I think we really could get to a global community complete with aeronautics and electricity, probably with slightly different methods, and nuked each other into a literal stone age.

it only took 1000 years to recover from the utter civilization crash of the roman empire, so in 2-5000 years I think we could've generated a similar culture and lost it.

and the sumerians probably just kept or found the records, as if the library of alexandria was copied and hidden, instead of just lost for all time as is our case.

think about it, the guy might be a little loopy, but his ideas are still workable.

I think Tesla was nuts too, but he invented over half the crap we're communicating with today.



posted on Jul, 4 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by MegaTherion

there is a planetoid recently discovered, traveling in an orbit that matches sitchin's description, and there's so much evidence of technology approaching and even surpassing our own in ancient societies.



Dunno if this thread died out, but that sounds like uber interesting information to me!
Would it be possible for you to provide a link to information on the apparent planetoid?



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