My Condemnation of the Human Race, page 3
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reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 10:23 AM by daddymax
reply to post by sobek52



Blah blah blah...Tell me o' great thinker of the ages what you have done to change this destructive, over-utilizing, parasitic path that we are all on? I know you have a computer, with internet, and I'm gonna assume a job in which to pay for the usage of said items. Now if you have a job, I'm going to assume you have a car...that uses some natural resources to motivate said car. I assume you have some form of domicile, with power, water, climate control, etc...All using these resources that all except for you exploit...

I don't mean to come off so harsh, but I hear this # from so many people who are saying it from the comforts of this exploitation, utilizing every bit of this degradation of this "Mother Earth", while never actually doing anything to change it.

Do me, and every other human that is aware of this issue-but don't want to do anything to change it, give me a solution, instead of pointing the fat-and-happy finger at the problem. Make sure this solution does not have to be implemented by means of changing our(humans) daily lives...and watch it be done...otherwise, sit back...watch American Idol...text on your Blacberry...drive down to Burger King for the latest promo burger...and shut up about it.

With Love and Support...

Max


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Zepherian





LMAO! My sentiments exactly. the earth has been taking care of itself for billions of years, I doubt what our industrial revolution in the past 200 years has done as much to the planet as you speak of.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 12:14 PM by Zepherian
reply to post by Divinorumus



You first sir, may I suggest you go to the closest CDC and have a mosh fest in their samples sealed safe. That way you would have set a proud example for the rest of us to discard. Off you go now.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 12:20 PM by Zepherian
reply to post by Cythraul



You don't make people do anything... you influence them to do positive things by doing them yourself as an example and those law of atraction mechanisms I mentioned, praise, peer pressure. Then good things multiply like a fractal through society. Theres a point out there which I won't pretend to know exactly where, where a trend becomes dominant.

This explain the war in the middle east to a degree, for bush and cº (ie, the elites) to have a war first they had to send negativity out through society, in memes, through hollywood, the news media, even the schooling system... so that eventually society had enough negative memes in it that people would be motivated to accept war. It works both ways. We do have a hive mind, a collective consciousness that superimposes itself on our individuality, influencing it. Our volksgeist if you will. If we're carefull what we put into the volksgeist eventually the zeitgeist changes. And you get an electric powered volkswagen, for exp


By the way, to shut up vader, duct tape his duck helmet.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 12:41 PM by Cythraul
reply to post by Zepherian


Thanks for the tip . I fully agree about living by example. In terms of betterment, I start with myself, and whilst certain choices I've made are quite extreme and out of sync with the world, I do not preach them, I just live them and try to carve a new positive path for myself and anyone who feels like taking the same path. However, I've found that few people open their eyes to new positive ideas. Your experiences might be somewhat more rewarding, but I've had little luck.



reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 02:17 PM by Area_X
reply to post by sobek52



So what you're saying is, you're part of the problem. And you think being negative about it is going to help too?

Because it's very obvious that you wrote your post from a hut made of naturally dead materials, while living off the land, giving back to nature more than you take while protecting the rain forest, right?

Please, you're sitting behind a pc, eating processed potato chips, listening to stolen music on your ipod, sitting in a chair made of plastic in your energy-eating manufactured home or apartment typing your next post, so don't come here ranting. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. If this is the way you truly feel, then either take some action to make a change in this world or do yourself and all of us a favor and stop blowing hot air.

Yes, there is much we can do to improve the way we interact with and treat this planet, but the question is....what are YOU going to do about it? Because griping online seems to be taking the least amount of responsible action possible. Hoping to inspire others by griping in a negative tone? right, that works.
How about some words of wisdom to live by -
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi.
(In other words, stop griping about it and get off your lazy butt and do something!)


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 05:14 PM by Perplexed
reply to post by sobek52



Well I guess you lump yourself in with the ones screwing it up. I am just trying to get by and raise my family. If you feel we are screwing it up then do something about it... There is only a hand full of people really doing the screwing up... Maybe you could do something about them instead of making a blanket generalization?



reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 05:31 PM by sobek52
reply to post by daddymax



I use a hybrid car, use solar power to heat my water, use hydro power for most of my house, and am exploring wind power.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 05:35 PM by sobek52
reply to post by SonicInfinity



If you are not one of those who do, you should try to stop the ones responsible.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 07:14 PM by Lasheic
reply to post by sobek52



I really do have a dim view of humanity.

I'm already seeing that I won't agree with you.

Over the centuries we have utterly failed as our planet's caretakers.

We are the planet's caretakers? Who elected us to such a position? Live has been on this planet for at least 3 billion years, and yet we who have only been around a paltry 200,000 years are the caretakers?

We search for the slightest reason to exaggerate and create an excuse to anhilliate each other.

And it's not like human aggression isn't also reflected in our closest relatives, chimpanzees or other primates. We have a greater intelligence capable of building more and more devastating weapons. Do you really think they wouldn't also if they had the mental capacity that we do?

We have enough armament, some in the hands of the worst humans, to destroy this planet many times over.

No we don't. We might be able to completely devastate the environment... but the planet? End all life? Not even close. Long after we are gone, life will continue.

Also, we behave like an adaptable virus. We enter an area, adapt to utilize it, use up and totally deplete the resources, and leave to make another place desolate as well.

Apparently you don't know what an invasive species is. We are one, and we're not the only ones. This happens any time a species is introduced to a new habitat in which there are no natural checks against the population.

You wish to cast us into the role of sinners, when in fact, we are only a unique part of nature.

Now, with space travel advancing, we have a chance of colonizing and screwing up the other planets.

What other planets? Mars? The Moon? There's really nothing else even close to human habitation - and those planets are completely dead. Screw them up? What the hell are you talking about?

We do more harm than good.

We initiate change. This planet is NOT a static environment. It is a dynamic environment, and the only constant in it is change. Some species benefit, some languish. We are a factor in natural selection, and those species who cannot adapt to us will fail while those who can adapt will thrive.

We cause harm to Earth and our own race.

We are a dynamic species capable of both "good" and "ill" - the question is, how do you define such actions? The planet is not a living creature, and neither is the environment. We cannot enact "good" or "ill" upon it, only change.

The world deserves better caretakers.

And who would you suggest be the new caretakers? Deer? Wolves? Komodo Dragons? Sea Urchins? The idea of us being "caretakers" is an illusion, a religiously based illusion based on a judeo-christian belief that humanity was given domination over the Earth.

Best case scenario for the world, a plague wipes us out

Become an hero and start with yourself. At least you'll prove you're not a hypocrite.

and clears the way for evolution to create a better ruling race.

Evolution doesn't work that way. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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