Court rules in favor of Second Amendment gun right, page 6
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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 01:37 PM by riggs2099
in the United States, approximately 5,000 children under 15 years of age are killed every year in America due to guns (not to mention the many more children who are permanently disabled)

Many children are killed due to accidental discharges while playing with guns that improperly locked or stowed. Children by age 2 are strong enough to pull the trigger of a gun, and by age 9 are still unable to determine a real gun from a toy gun

"Don't blame the guns. Guns don't kill people; people kill people."
As Dr. Linda Erwin, a Portland trauma surgeon, says, "Yes, people kill people, but here's a news flash: the gun helps!" Quite an obvious statement, right? Yet, we don't often remember that the presence of a gun in any situation makes the situation more dangerous, not safer. In Australia, where gun control laws are strict, people are 5 times less likely to die from a gunshot than an American.(7) It is not that people in Australia get into less fights or assaults. Bar fights happen just as often in Australia as they do in the United States. However, with an increased likelihood of a gun being involved in the fight, a person is five times more likely to die as a result of the fight in the United States than in Australia. It is much more difficult to stab or beat someone to death compared to firing a handgun
www.nytimes.com...
Americans are not the brightest people on this planet. They will eventually kill us all thanks to thier trigger happy ( we are so big and bad) attitude. They are more like cowards that act big but only when they have a weapon ( more technologically advanced or just bigger) to back thier play.
Not all americans are like this but i would assume most.
Also the argument that guns in homes deters criminals from entering a home for fear of death is just plain idiotic. If someone breaks into your home then will they not be more ilikely kill you then to take the chance of being killed. Having guns in the home just means that criminals will not take any chances either and will arm themselves for protection..which means that the person who has nothing to lose will be the one to shoot first...ei..CRIMINALS.


[edit on 26-6-2008 by riggs2099]

[edit on 26-6-2008 by riggs2099]


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 01:40 PM by SideWynder
reply to post by schrodingers dog


I am truly sorry that you feel the need to buy a gun now due to decision of the supreme court.. If you do not like firearms, you should "stick to your guns"(pun intended) and not purchase one just because of this recent decision.. I truly don't believe it will change alot in the DC area..
But, if you really feel the need to arm yourself, I would STRONGLY suggest that you take several firearm safety courses... not just the cheapo 4hour familiarization courses, but at least several weekend courses as well as join a Reputable (I hate to use this term) Gun club.
I would also suggest that if you are not familliar with hand guns, and you now feel you must have one, You most likely will be best off with a double action revolver, they are simple to use,safer for the newer, less experienced gun owner. and more affordable.
But, Please, find an experienced, trustworthy individual to mentor you in the proper use and care of this endeavor...
Good luck to you sir, and remember, those that are fighting to uphold the 2nd ammendment do not wish to force anyone to have to have a gun, we just don't want to be forced to be unable to have one...
As well as the fact that if the 2nd goes, sooner or later the 1st will also be gone..Thus everyones opineing, even on the internet, will be severely limited, if not muted entirely

[edit on 26-6-2008 by SideWynder]


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 01:44 PM by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by on_yur_6


Clearly the war is not won. This was a battle only, but an important one.

I saw on television today a representative of one of the anti-gun groups, Brady, I think, and he was adamant about exploiting every loophole in the decision.

The NRA has announced that they are planning on filing lawsuits throughout the land to challenge oppressive gun laws.

I'm a proud member of the NRA and I am proud that we are hitting the ground running. The Constitution is on our side. The anti-gun crowd must rely on lies and perverse interpretations of the law to push their agenda.

Well, today they have one less weapon in their arsenal. Never again will a slimy, little shyster be able to argue that the Second Amendment refers to a collective right, which would make the Second Amendment unique among the Bill of Rights.

Anti-gunners rely on ignorance, because a nine year old can read the works of the founders and clearly discern what their intent for the Second Amendment really was.

Today, the Supreme Court not only ruled on the Constitutionality of the right to keep and bear arms, but also gave Americans a lesson in grammar.

(a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms.
(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.

blogs.usatoday.com...


So, now the Second Amendment can no longer be twisted grammatically to mean what it does not. The grammar and the interpretation are now law.


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 01:56 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by riggs2099


Those "CHILDREN" your refering to are classified as anyone up to and including 25 year olds. You might want to look at the criteria before you quote statistics like that. Most they classify as children are gangbangers shooting each other. Accedental discharge incedents are a miniscle number compared to what your stating. Its missleading and downright wrong. That particular statistic has fallen drasticaly in the last 10 years.

Zindo
PS we have many times more trained personel out of the service than in. These are combat vets who know exactly how our military works. The citizenry are NEVER out gunned by the government.



[edit on 6/26/2008 by ZindoDoone]


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 01:57 PM by SideWynder
reply to post by riggs2099


Yes, sir, very true. As a matter of fact I do believe this happened, around 230 some odd years ago. there was this little incident with the worlds greatest army at the time. (England) and I do believe that a bunch of armed trigger happy Colonials put up one heck of a fight.. Can't quite remember how it turned out though...

[edit on 26-6-2008 by SideWynder]


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 02:05 PM by jam321
reply to post by riggs2099


Those 5000 children you talk about, Can you tell me how many of those belong to a gang?
On your stats where Australia is 5 times less likely to die from gunshot, did you take into account the difference in population of the two country.
According to this link
www.nationmaster.com...
Australia is ranked right up there with us trigger happy Americans. Welcome to the club. And that seems to be pretty high for a country with the population of Texas.
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