Originally posted by raven bombshell
reply to post by sir_chancealot
These people calling you a liar are really bad actors. If you pulled that out on me, I wouldnt let on you were right. Were you using some sort of cold
reading technique or you just couls "see" certain details about them that you would not have known normally?
Nobody likes that P-word any more, I think. It is bandied about all over TV and in the movies so it sounds like a sideshow act. It doesnt mean
anything any more.
I tried to avoid specifics do to the details skating very close to the T&C line, but I'll explain a little more. You say that you wouldn't "let on
you were right". Imagine that out of the blue during a disagreement, someone describes your last sexual encounter, in VIVID (and accurate!) DETAILS.
Who did what, to whom, where, and on what color sheets (if a bed was involved). Complete with some of the things that were said.
Think you could still not "let on that you were right"? At the very least, you would blush like crazy, or your jaw would hang open.
one of my "stupid human tricks".
Please explain to me how a "cold reading technique" could be used to pick up THOSE things? Or, in other words, please explain what "cold reading"
clues a person would KNOWINGLY look for to establish that a person did certain things to another person? To be rather crude here, I'm not talking
about "Oh, you had sex with your boyfriend last night", I'm talking about "You started in A, when he did B, then you responded by C, then he said
D, to which you replied E, etc., etc.," I'm talking about a full blow-by-blow (pun fully intended) running color commentary and description of what
took place. The reason my "critics" at these parties never say anything again is that they KNOW they've just had an encounter with something they
cannot explain, and they KNOW it wasn't just B.S. guessing, because of the correct facts, IN DETAIL, that I give. We're not talking general
statements that can apply to just anyone, and they realize this.
On occasion, I've told people certain things about their future, but I don't like to do that, because it's hardly ever good news.
As to how I get the information, it's very, very difficult to describe, because we seem to lack the words for such things. I like to describe the
weirdness of this by saying "It's like seeing with your ears, or hearing with your eyes". It would be as weird as hearing light waves, or seeing
The closest I can come to describing this is that the entire memory (or precognition when that happens) comes into my mind as a fully formed thought.
Imagine someone taking something that they typed up, and putting it in a book between pages 36 and 37. You know it doesn't belong there, you know
you didn't put it there, but there it is. That's what it is like.
Another way to describe it is like this: You know how you have a memory of a certain event? Well, imagine if that memory was not there one second,
then was put in, in it's entirety, the next second. One minute, you have no memory of going to the store, the next minute, you have a complete
memory of going to the store, along with all the details that go along with it. And you remember that you didn't "remember" that memory 5
Only the memory doesn't involve you, it involves your neighbor. It's kind of like that.
I don't care if people on here believe me or not, I'm just describing my experiences. Enough of my friends have seen me do it enough times that
they know it is real. The people that have had me do this to, never EVER call me a liar again if we get on this discussion. Again, as I've gotten
older, I've realized how cruel I was to have done something like that to them, and I try not to do it anymore.
I am also a very intuitive person. I will know something is right, without knowing WHY it is right. While this has been a great blessing in my
chosen field, it has created some difficulties in growing up. In high school, I would write down answers to differential equations, and then have to
work backwards to get how the answer was obtained. My math teacher believed in showing your work.
As an adult, I look back on it and have to
wonder why in the heck my teacher didn't think I was cheating. Sometimes, I'd have the right answer, and the work showing how I got that answer
would be all wrong! For the record, I only cheated on a test once, and I got a D- on that particular test.
Now, I would attribute some nefarious thing to this "voice" (though it is not really a voice, that's just a way to compare it to something
recognizable), except for one peculiar fact. This "voice" always tells me to quit doing something I shouldn't be doing. My conscience will go
"You shouldn't be doing that", and this "thought" will go "Yeah, here's why: X, Y, and Z". My conscience feels like it is part of me. This
"other" doesn't. It even once warned me that, while I had made a right decision, that it still wasn't going to go well. My conscience went "You
made the right decision", and this "voice" said "Yes, you did, BUT...." and then went on to insert some mental imagery that showed me what the
results of this decision were going to be like. And it was right. In hindsight, it was like it was telling me "You know, sometimes you can make the
right decision, for the right reason, and still have bad results". Although, in my early 20s, I could grasp this on an intellectual scale, and yet
not really understand it.
And to be PERFECTLY CLEAR I don't "hear voices", I just use that as a simile to compare it with what it is like for me.
I honestly think there is a genetic component to this. My mother has this ability to some extent, as do some of my brothers and sisters (those that
will talk about it), along with some of my nephews and nieces.
Hope that explains everything.
[edit on 10-7-2008 by sir_chancealot]