Where did everyone go

I lost interest in this thread when it turned into how to hide from an invading force. Seriously, if a battalion stormed any of us, no matter if its a rouge survivor, or a group of 20, its over. I try to prepare for what I can control. A nuke going off over my head isnt something I can plan for. The grid going down or civil war I can plan for. If this is going to get back to people sharing ideas on how to plan, prepare and train for Sit X, then by all means, Im in as well.

I agree completely, those who didnt prepare or put it off will be the ones shooting at us, and stealing from us. I would suspect current well organized and armed street gangs and bike clubs will pose the largest threat. Again, as with my posts on other threads, this is why I live where I live. Not much gang activity, alot of wannabes, but no real organization. The only bike clubs are hells angels and the vietnam vets. Many of them I know personally, so I consider them allies.

But regardless of what type of group I run into, if any, I am fully prepared to defend what I have aquired to date, and what I will be able to do ensuing a disaster. I hope more on the survival threads are as well. A future with people who can think and plan is much better than one with violent rogue gangs enslaving any less fortunate.

Thats gotta be a big task trying to get people to move to Idaho. Just kidding. Too bad youre not in AK, could use more people like you up here. Ive learned trying to get people to relocate is difficult, moved on to trying to educate people who are trying to be more subsistance. For instance I learned the woman who owns a local greenhouse has had a tough time canning and drying foods, so I volunteered to help her out, hopefully she continues to try and make it on her own now, because she would be a great asset should society collapse.

Like you I am fully stocked on everything I can think of, I work alot on self education, getting more into farming and livestock, taking classes this fall on gunsmithing and another one on brain tanning hides. Even with a mountain of supplies, knowledge is what will keep us alive through the chaos.

And my dad made sure my brother and i could survive off the land with just a knife.

I know my weapons, think I owned my first .22 at age 7. Still cant hurt to fill in any voids I dont know. Grew up in a small town, family was never into raising animals and my mother seemed to only be adept at growing weeds. Gardening and storage came easy when I finally got into it, animals are new to me, but getting the hang of it.

Agreed that the majority of people wont switch their socitial routines until something does happen, by then its too late however.

Surviving with only a knife isnt all that hard, maybe I'm getting soft but I like my firestarter as well. That could be said of most posters here. I dont doubt that a good many people on here could survive with nothing but a knife, would even be thankful they have a knife instead of whining about what they dont have.

Any SITX will have phases.
Short term initial hide and survive period. 1 to 90 days
Then a long term recovery period.

The short term hide and survive period will be the hardest for most. except those that planed.

The long term recovery period can make or break a group without planing.

In a SITX with a 50+% death rate a good "observe, sweep, and salvage" plan will go a long way to surviving during the long term recovery period.

A small group working at night and observing during the day and sweeping a large area looking for any buildings abandoned by there owner, the dead, ETC.

Or a larger group with observation teams moving through a area followed by a sweep and salvage teams going through all building and sweeping them for salvage. food, medical supplies, equipment, solar panels, weapons, ammo, trade items, wire for running a area phone system. ect

Just look a your home and neighborhood if everyone there died how much salvage would be there for a will trained search team to find.
The salvage is ether hauled away or removed and hid till it can be recovered.

Where are your local national guard armories, military bases, police stations, gun stores, medical offices. all would be prime places for salvage, of everything from weapons, ammo, drugs, MREs to armoured vehicles,
You will need heavy cutting equipment. local fire-station?
Have you ever tried to open a safe or a military ammo bunker?.
A lot of gun nuts have gun safes.
If other groups have been through the area and you are the first with the know-how you will get the goodies.
Don't try to use a cutting torch to open a ordnance storage bunker, People who try tend not to live long or prosper,

Think out of the box.

How much educating are you willing to provide for those who know some but not everything? People in any survival group need to be cross-trained. Wouldn't want your only gun expert to loose a hand or the only person proficient at plant identification to develop problems with their eyesight.

I think a small survival community is much more realistic than trying to go at it alone. You don't necessarily need to have a whole town of like-minded people who also are preparing for all eventualities, you just need to be in a community where you know your neighbors and know you can count on them in a pinch.

Also - I'm all for preparing for bad times, and keeping the fact that I have lots of stored food, water and survival supplies in my house quiet, but you guys worried about fema camps and the government ilfiltrating your community to sabotage survival groups are really bonkers.

Originally posted by koytetsu


Also - I'm all for preparing for bad times, and keeping the fact that I have lots of stored food, water and survival supplies in my house quiet, but you guys worried about fema camps and the government ilfiltrating your community to sabotage survival groups are really bonkers.

Hey thanks man. We really apreciate your insults.
What you should be concerned with is the government that's not going to infiltrate your group just like they didn't infiltrate the Montana Militia.