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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 05:47 AM by Lasheic
In regards to the OP, you do realize you're on the Internet right? You rail against someone using a technology capable of keeping tabs on them, yet you spread this message via a technology which is capable of tracking and giving out far - FAR - more detailed information about you. This doesn't make sense.

Further, you don't seem to understand how laborious a task Data Mining is. Oh, it's very possible - and companies do it all the time. But for a central organization to keep tabs on every person's every action on the planet over vast amounts of time via "chip" in the kind needed for your dystopian view of the future or even current day is mind boggling. It's not feasible. Sure, they can collect all that information, but what are they going to do with it? Computer can help sort it out, such as the case with flagging emails, but even that can only go so far.

And finally, I am fully in support of getting my chip. Indeed, I want more than a chip. I want brain augmentation, with pinpoint accuracy in the recording of memories, information, and images - as well as external storage. I want to upload my experiences to the network and download other people's experiences to live them out. I want improved physiological preformance via Gene Therapy and Nanomachines that would allow me to dive in the oceans for hours at a time at incredible depths with no need for an airtank. That help to eradicate disaease both genetic and pathogenic. I want a powered exo-skeleton that allows me to run at great speeds and lift far more than I currently can. I want to be able to access the internet with my mind, communicate the world over using only thought. I want to merge with technology.

Some of that stuff is still pretty much Sci-Fi.. some is close to reality.. and some of it IS reality.

So yes. I'll take my chip, and the rest of it too. I embrace transhumanism.

Viva la Ghost in the Shell, as it were.


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 06:03 AM by Harman
reply to post by Spuggy


You know what, i would be all for it if it was MUTUAL. How the story goes now it is us being monitored and we do not have any way to see where anyone is going. Another thing is identity-theft what could be easier with that chip. You have digital cloning devices that can read and store the info so that anyone can effectively steal your identity and drain your account or something. Yet another thing is how reliable will the info be if someone really want's you behind bars? They can fabricate the data and convince a judge that you where in Florida killing a grandmother that was baking her applepie for her grandkids because the DATA said so. You will be convicted on fabricated material.

So when the technology is Mutual, reliable and secured and you will not get cancer from it or whatever i will consider it but at the moment it's the govs and big businesses that will be able to access it and you are just like a friggin' dolphin with a tag.


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 08:32 AM by Lasheic
reply to post by hitmen


the problem is that even people like opposition leaders or protestors can be tracked at any instant.

They can do that now without chipping. They have been able to do it for quite some time. Chipping would just make it more convenient. And besides, look at it this way. Record companies spend billions of dollars to protect their products against piracy. What happens? Time and time again it's defeated by techno-geeks, sometimes with technology as simple as a black magic marker. RFIDs are already being hacked. If they REALLY wanted to track you, RFID would not be the most secure way. It would end up starting an information war between updates to the chips, and people finding a way around them.

The olden people communicated telepathy before the use of modern communication. Period.

Got any proof to back that up? Who were these "olden people"? What physiological features of the brain were used, why did we lose them, and what was the transmission medium?



This technology is still in it's infancy, and not truly telepathic in the sense that you still need to "mime" your voice for the collar to intercept the signals from your brain. Now, we've already demonstrated the potential power of BCI's (brain computer interfaces) and shown how we can read brainwaves and brain activity (even without invasive surgery) and translate that into a computer. So far, it's only simple stuff, and the most exciting current application is in the field of prosthetics. Here, not only can we read output from the brain - but also translate limited input.

So imagine, in 20 years, when this technology has advanced. Placing a telephone call across the world by simply thinking it. The device reads your brain waves, translates those into speech, and then sends it over the internet to the person you want to communicate with. A similar device in the receiver of the call will stimulate the portion of the brain that is associated with receiving nerve signals from the eardrum and will translate that directly into what they perceive as audible speech.


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 09:05 AM by Lasheic
reply to post by Lethil


Would it happen to be the Braingate System? I think I have a video for it.



It should be noted that the Braingate system in an invasive surgery. We do have non-invasive procedures as well. However, having a chip directly on the brain would likely be the best solution. The problem is that chips are rigid and inflexible. Head trauma might knock it lose or cause it to damage the brain. They are working on flexible silicon chips, though, to remedy this problem. Further, with the coming advent of nanomachines in the future, it may be possible to circumvent using a chip and instead have swarms of these machines in your brain filtering in between the neurons. These machines would be able to either pass along, block, or simulate neural firings.

Further, I thought I'd show a video demonstrating the brain input we can currently achieve. There was another video showing how they can control a the flight of a fly by controlling it's brain, but this is a bit more fascinating.


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