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Life in the U.S. is a joke

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posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 12:30 PM

An forthright and heartfelt post. In this age of information, more and more "little guys" are becoming aware of what a minority has understood and publicly opposed throughout history.

We live in a material world. We live in a duality universe where "good and evil" duke it out 24/7, 365. America is but a mere piece in the complex totality of the global struggle to free the body, mind, and soul of every living thing. The weakest of these are those that usurp power, idolize greed and materialism, exploit, hate and hurt others for personal triumph. The strongest and more advanced do the opposite; they glorify the spirit of all things and base all their decisions on love and gratitude.

Regardless of the subjugative darkness pervasive in our society, in our country, and in our world, we can affect change by being change ourselves. A lone voice in the wilderness is still a voice. Freedom takes place in our thoughts and in our mind before it becomes words and actions. Free yourself: your body, mind, and soul. We are all truly free if we choose to be and it is our choice and challenge to evolve to our universal highest form.

Don't give up. Give more.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 12:39 PM

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by justamomma

It sounds like your main complaint is that you can't toke up at will.

Seat belt laws actually have a point, when you consider insurance costs.

And gays are slowly but surely getting the right to marry, one state at a time.

first, let me make this clear. i haven't smoked since before having my first son (and he came in the world sept 12, 2001, so it has been awhile) and don't crave it in the least. i have my reasons for not personally partaking in "toking up" but i sure as hell will continue to speak out for the rights of those who DO want to "toke up". when they start prohibiting you from something that you enjoy that harms no one else, you can be certain that i will speak up for your rights even if it is something i don't personally agree with.

as far as wearing my seat belt for insurance purposes, yeah, i get that. i am paying a sh*t load of money that would be better spent on food and the likes for my boys bc i am forced to, even though i haven't had an accident or speeding ticket or anything else on my record for years. the money i have put into paying for this required insurance is far more than it will be paying out should i BE in an accident.

my hard earned money is lining the pockets of the insurance companies while i struggle to feed my kids.

again, how does this make sense? i am having to insure myself for something that may never take place. sure, it may, but i could have had enough money to pay for the damages of my vehicle and (were it my fault) the damages of the others vehicle AND THEN some were i not forced to give it away to the insurance company!!

no sense whatsoever

[edit on 26-6-2008 by justamomma]

[edit on 26-6-2008 by justamomma]

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 01:05 PM
reply to post by justamomma

First off all would you marry me

Incurance is something we need. Bacuse health care costs a lot of cash. But incurance also depend on the system you live under. "Wealth care system". In Norway we pay a bit exstra tax so we dont need to buy incurance for wealthcare. This also goes for the cort system.

What kind of incurance you need also depends on hove you live youre life. I have a house incurance and a car incurance. And if i play my cards right nothing will happend. But we dont have a garanty that somone ells wount mess up. And hurt you or youre property.

But when thats sead. What can we do to make the system a better system for us self ? We know the probelem and have many selutions, but thats where it all ends to.
I have always wonderd why the goverment never ask the people what they need and hove they would like to live. It seams like they always know that for us a head of time.

[edit on 26-6-2008 by spy66]

[edit on 26-6-2008 by spy66]

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 01:06 PM
The problem with living in this day and age is people always wanting to try and tell everybody else what to do.

I love the US, I call it home and probably will until the day I die.

Is it perfect here? No way.

Would I trade my life here for a different one some place else?

Not a chance.

If people would just learn to live and let live, we would have the greatest country on Earth, bar none. Life anywhere is what you make it.

Personally speaking, I like waking up in my nice heated/air conditioned suburban home, being able to drink my cup of coffee and read my opposed to waking up in a dirt hut and having to walk eight miles to get a bucket of clean water to drink.

Life here is easy man, you just have to take the good with the bad.

The politics in the US definately need to change and our system could use some work. But to suggest that life here in America is somehow sub standard is just plain bull.

I hate to break it to you, but if you are having a tough time surviving or getting alkong here in the US then you won't stand a chance anywhere else. We have some of the best schools, hospitals, and public services of anywhere in the entire world.

If you want an education, it is there. If you get sick you will be taken care of wheather you can pay or not, and if you need a job there are hundreds listed every day. Log on to Careerbuilder and have a look if you don't believe me.

Go and ask a Guatemalan dirt farmer how his life is treating him, if you can find one with access to a telephone that is. If you think your life is tough and unfair, try walking a mile in someone elses shoes for a day and see how you like it.

The single biggest problem facing our country right now is that we are raising an entire generation of lazy, spoiled complainers who have never had it bad enough to appreciate how great they have right now.

You can achieve anything that you set your mind to here, but unfortunately you still have to work for it.

It's ok to recognize the bad parts and want to change them, but also count your blessing and realize that life could be a whole hell of a lot worse.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 01:45 PM

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 01:59 PM
reply to post by slackerwire

soon we´ll get rid of the granny politicians.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:03 PM

Originally posted by slackerwire
Freedom is nothing more than an illusion. Think you're free? Think again.

They claim to protect freedom, but when somebody use that freedom to criticize the president and his war, she immediately is banned from radio stations, she receives dead threats, her entire career is destroyed and she is basically not welcome any more in her own country. Just because she uses her freedom of speech. There are many examples, but the Dixie Chicks controversy is a good example of this.

What kind of freedom is it they claim to protect ???

I think when future historians look back in history they will see that the Bush years were really the all-time low of freedom and rationalism. A time of never ending witch-hunts on innocents. The time that all rationalism was lost.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:09 PM
reply to post by BlackOps719

"The problem with living in this day and age is people always wanting to try and tell everybody else what to do. "

absolutely!! the main problem and it is frustrating the crap out of me that others can't see this. i am not proposing that my ideals be forced onto the lot of you, but rather that your ideals and the ideals of those who are benefitting off the money that "I" work hard for, well, i want all these ideals that are NOT mine to quit being forced onto me. it is unfair and i am sick w/ worry for the ideals that are and will be forced on my kids now and when they are older.

YOU ALL (meaning those who are mocking) may very well be fine w/ blindly accepting what is being imposed on us, but when it comes to an ideal you don't agree w/ being imposed on you, will you still be singing the same "we are lucky compared to *fill in the blank*" tune? i am starting to fear the answer to this could be yes.

at this point it is reminding me of that movie 'i am legend' (which i didn't enjoy so much, but all of a sudden, i am seeing a similarity) where the "zombie" dude is throwing himself into the glass repeatedly and "the savior" will smith
is dumbfounded bc he is holding the cure in his hand. it is mind boggling to me and i feel a relation to that character at this point, not in holding a cure, but in saying that WE NEED A CURE.

BUT now it is becoming overwhelmingly obvious the reason we aren't finding a cure is because the majority don't want a cure... and apparently majority rules. sure, i could move, but again, i can't financially bc i am paying all my $$ out to a war i don't support, welfare that supports other ppl who won't get their own job, insurance companies that i don't need and won't need in the future if i were allowed to keep my earnings, and a prison system that is locking up ppl for things that should be left up to their own discretion, AND ON AND ON AND ON.

i don't want to go anyway. i want to be part of the solution this country so desperately needs because i love the ppl around me who live here..

but too many of its citizens are throwing themselves up against this glass repeatedly making it impossible to come to any real solution for how to fix this problem, we as a nation are in.

"Go and ask a Guatemalan dirt farmer how his life is treating him, if you can find one with access to a telephone that is. If you think your life is tough and unfair, try walking a mile in someone elses shoes for a day and see how you like it. "

so, what...... i should shut my mouth and close my eyes to the fact that we are very much headed down the path that will lead us to the same conditions all because right now i am comfortable ?(hello, remember, i have kids futures' in my hands)

well, some of you very well may be living comfortable, and i'll concur that i definately am more comfortable than that farmer, but i don't want to wait until i am in the same conditions as that dirt farmer when it will be harder to do something about it. i want to help stop this train from derailing while there is still a chance.


still, this is only part of the issue. there is a war going on in the name of the country i reside in that most outside of this country know is bogus and if our nation's name is tarnished, that automatically drags everyone of our names down in the mud as well bc we are a part of this nation.

ugh!! forget it! i could go on and on, but except for a few, who are also having to try and get ppl to see before a solution can be brought forth, i feel like it is pointless

please, sorry to disturb. you may now continue w/ your self destructive acceptance.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:27 PM
reply to post by bruxfain

What in the blue hell are you talking about? Seriously, lay off the booze.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:29 PM
reply to post by justamomma

Like I said....America isn't perfect. But I challenge you to find any place that is.

Sorry to hear that you are having a tough time right now. Life isn't easy anywhere you go. But at least here you have the opportunity to change whatever it is that is keeping you down. That's the difference between America and a lot of other places, there is no glass ceiling to keep you in poverty.

Good luck to you

P.S. - I was raised by a single mother who didn't even have a high school education, she worked night shift in a factory and raised three kids without ever accepting a dime or a handout from anyone. Needless to say we grew up poorer than dirt, but she always taught us to not make excuses and to work for whatever we wanted in life.

I currently operate and own my own mortgage brokerage, my older brother earned a masters degree in chemistry and is now working toward his M.D. and my oldest sister hold's a Phd AND an MBA.

It can be done.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:29 PM

Originally posted by jsobecky

The "puritanical morons" have set their own standards. Nobody sets *your* standards except for you.

Not quite. Said puritanical morons have imposed their morals and beliefs on the public airwaves.

Well, you'd have to flesh out you allegations before I could respond, starting with definitions of "lengthy prison sentences" for "victimless crimes".

How about any and all laws regarding drugs? Trafficking carries a pretty hefty sentence, yet no one is victimized.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:37 PM

Originally posted by slackerwire

Nuclear obliteration couldn't really damage us any more, who knows, it might be just the thing we need to start over. I wouldn't be opposed to it.

Being frustrated at a world that refuses to conform to your wishes at your age is normal behavior. Wanting to blow everyone else up because you can't have your own way is not normal.

The drug references are quite revealing as well. When people take drugs they are self medicating because something is wrong in their lives. Usually it is an indicator of a form of clinical depression.

Before your face turns purple and you label me a stupid old man; I am a former drug addict, now clean for over 20 years. At your age I was a mess and probably would have agreed with your idea of nuking everyone and starting over. I worked, had money; but I was self medicating because I was depressed.

Now I'm drug free, successful to an extent and have a Wife I love dearly. Now I see our troubles as just problems that need to be fixed. Instead of throwing my hands in the air and proclaiming the half full glass unfillable, I now see it as halfway there and getting fuller. I know that is cliché to the point of tedious, but it makes my point.

This world, for you, is what you make of it. If you are self medicating the first thing you need to do is get rid of that crutch and clear your mind. Instead of dwelling on what is wrong, concentrate on what is right and how you can contribute to making things even better than they already are.

Don't throw up your hands and say the world sucks so lets just nuke the damn thing. Instead you should be thinking I live in pretty great place compared to the rest of the world; how can "I" make it a little better? Glass half full people never accomplished anything by sitting around feeling sorry for themselves, self medicating and generally giving up.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:38 PM

Originally posted by rocksarerocks

Don't like it? Get out. We have an overcrowing problem anyway. I'm sure there's room for you in Iran.

Thats a great idea. I must ask though, did you come up with that brilliant piece of work all by yourself or were you part of a team?

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:39 PM
reply to post by RRconservative

how is it up there on Olympus, staring down your mighty nose at all the mudpeople, as they hold up your mountain on their backs?

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:41 PM
reply to post by super70

That is so correct. As I mentioned about our own debt problem and socialistic issues in previous post, I left behind the fact that this is the best country to live in no matter how flawed it is. It's just too capitolistic and it drives people insane trying to just keep up and survive.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:47 PM
reply to post by Blaine91555

Evidently you didn't see my post on page 7.

Here it is:

Just to clear up any misconceptions: I do not use any drugs whatsoever, my defense of them comes from a freedom standpoint. The Constitution doesn't authorize the federal government to dictate what people may or may not to do their own bodies.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:54 PM
Todays evidence of American stupidity:

Little League All Star game banned because some kids are singled out for being better players

Evidently the idea that competition is a good thing that leads to well rounded adults doesn't exist in Cleveland.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 02:55 PM
reply to post by BlackOps719

*sighs* was not the point. we actually have it good compared to most. i have the day off today (whooo hooo!!) and my parents have been gracious enough to take my kids out for a day of fun (they are visiting from zambia for a couple months). i am living in a beautiful home for less rent than other friends of mine who pay more for half of what we live in, all thanks to the kindness of a lady who treats us like family. i am going to school in the fall and have been accepted to a good university and have utilized the gov't grants that are available to all who ask.

i draw from my personal experience bc it is what i know, but i have repeatedly said, i am VERY aware of how blessed i am and you mistake my discontent for the path we are headed as a nation and my distress for where the focus of our country is as ungratefulness for where i am at now. i am where i am at now bc i work for it and have been blessed w/ kind ppl in my life (although i believe we get back from others what we give, so i must be doing something right in my life).

but being grateful w/ what i have and being distressed by where we are headed as a nation are two different things.

lets say we are on a ship in the middle of the ocean. it crashes into another boat and there is a big gaping hole now in our ship and the water is pouring in quickly. the other boat was smaller and the damage was greater and ppl are now in the water drowning. would you say to me, "hey, be grateful that you are not drowning in the water like those folks. sit back and relax woman!" if ya did, i'd look at you like you were crazy considering that we have a huge gaping hole in our ship and the water is rising and very soon, should we not figure out a solution, we will find ourselves drowning along side the other folks.

america has a huge gaping hole in it. we have borders that are unprotected while our own citizens are being monitored. we are fighting (and i quote) "for the freedom of the ppl of iraq" while our freedoms are dwindling daily. again, on and on i could go and yet grateful is the only feeling i am allowed to feel since, at the moment, i am "comfortable"?

the ship is sinking and i want to find a solution, not for just myself, but for those that care and for my children and their children's children. the water is rushing in and i feel it at my feet through these gas prices, and the rising cost of food, and the demanding of the money i am working for, for things i don't support and shouldn't be forced to support.

i just can't fathom how my distress by these things that ARE affecting me and you and everyone else is being dismissed as ungratefulness.

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 03:02 PM
reply to post by justamomma

I am actually agreeing with you here....yes things need work. A lot of issues need to be addressed. We as Americans have a lot of problems with our current government and our system that need fixing.

My only point was you will face issues everywhere you live. If you think these are problems that only Americans are dealing with, look around. Better yet, ask around.

America = not perfect.........but I for one would not trade places with anyone else.

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