Why has NASA never gone back to the moon?, page 2
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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 02:03 PM by ziggystar60
reply to post by weedwhacker



One man's dream is another ATS-member's belief, you know. I firmly believe that they found a lot more that just rocks and boulders and dust on the moon. In one of my threads I have even proved that NASA has painted images to hide a particular feature on a boulder. I have no doubt there have been further space missions to the moon which we don't know about.

(And please, can someone hurry up and post a reply to tell me how incredible stupid I am, so I don't kill this thread?)


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 02:17 PM by NephraTari
Why haven't we gone back to the moon?

One possibility. IF and I know its a very big IF but IF these transcripts are legit.. this might give us a clue as to why and why the photo's of the mission have such discrepancies that people think we never landed there at all.

SOURCE

Moon: Those are giant things. No, no, no - this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this !
Houston: What ... what ... what ? What the h--- is happening ? What's wrong with you ?
Moon: They're here under the surface.
Houston: What's there ? (muffled noise) Emission interrupted; interference control calling 'Apollo 11'
Moon: We saw some visitors. They were here for a while, observing the instruments
Houston: Repeat your last information !
Moon: I say that there were other spaceships. They're lined up in the other side of the crater !
Houston: Repeat, repeat !
Moon: Let us sound this orbita ... in 625 to 5 ... Automatic relay connected ... My hands are shaking so badly I can't do anything. Film it ? G--, if these d--ned cameras have picked up anything - what then ?
Houston: Have you picked up anything ?
Moon: I didn't have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film
Houston: Control, control here. Are you on your way ? What is the uproar with the UFOs over ?
Moon: They've landed here. There they are and they're watching us
Houston: The mirrors, the mirrors - have you set them up ?
Moon: Yes, they're in the right place. But whoever made those spaceships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.


Now in the off chance that this happened..If the original photo's were destroyed and had to be replaced. Which was done. but also spurred the fire for the theories that it never took place to begin with.

Thoughts?



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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 02:48 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by blackthorne



blackthorne.....there are two theories on this, not going back.

First theory is that Congress would simply not approve enough funds to NASA's budget. The Vietnam Confllict was drawing all of the attention, in the early 1970s. Resources and focus were shifted.

Second theory is the one that is found here on ATS, and elsewhere. This theory supposes alien bases on the Moon.

As to the first theory, well we have a lot of Lunar samples to examine. And from a strictly economical standpoint, what is the cost benifit for any resources versus the cost of getting there to extract them??? This is why there needs to be a commercial endeavour mounted.

As to the second theory....well, we will have to wait and see.


oops....I wrote 1070s....LOL!

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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 03:18 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by internos



internos.....I tend to agree with you.

The 'Santa Clause' reference from Apollo 8 could simply have been meant to convey their relief that the TLI trajectory was spot on, and they saw that the orbital return to TEI was also good.

As I remember, Apollo 8 was a bit of a 'publicity stunt'....the LM was falling behind in production, it was 1968, in December....and some Mission Objectives got shifted around.

The first manned 'orbit' of the Moon (beating the Russians) was of tremendous use to stir up the enthusiasm.....and the collective 'pride' of the American spirit....


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 03:59 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by COOL HAND



COOL HAND....what source did xweaponx cite for that 'transmission'???

Here's a primer for those too young to remember.....three Astronauts launch. Two fly the LM to landing, one stays on orbit in the CSM. Two then complete the landing on the Moon, and the EVAs, then return to rendezvous with the CSM, then they fire a burn to a TEI, and come home to Earth.

How much more simpler can we make it???



reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 04:08 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by please_takemyrights



takemyrights.....I believe, in the context of the era, blackthorne has a valid point, with the Columbus analogy.

There is a fairly common suggestion, now shown to be false, that people belived the Earth was flat, in 1492.

More accurate interpretations seem to point to a desire to find a shorter/quicker route to the Asian Lands. Hence, the Columbus mission.

It was known, then, about land routes to the East....and the valuables there...spice, silk, etc.

Also, there was a well-known sea route....down the West Coast of Europe and Africa, around the Cape of Good Hope, and back up North.....very long trip.

The idea Columbus had, knowing the Earth is round, was to sail WEST from Europe, thusly shortening the time enroute. What he didn't know was, there was another landmass in the way!!!! (We now call it North and South America).

This isn't rocket science......it's well documented.....

OK, carry on!!


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 04:09 PM by blackthorne
reply to post by please_takemyrights



those ships were fragile in the extreme for such a long voyage. water and rations, only so much room. diseases on ships. as for expenses, he had to go to the queen to get funding, so yes, it was very expensive. as you said, uncharted waters. they had no idea where would be the next land fall. they had no radios or communication with their home land, unlike the apollo mission. if something happened to them, no one would have known about it. his first landing was an island atoll with palm trees. relatively, nothing at first that would have made him want to go back.

so yes. i am being serious. one must take into account times and technology with an open mind.


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 04:21 PM by derfred33
reply to post by xweaponx



Because the race was won!

Next time they go to the moon will be to start a colony.


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 05:25 PM by gate13
Originally posted by Nohup
Originally posted by xweaponx
Did something they aren't telling us actually go down on the moon?


There's no money in it. That's why we haven't gone back. The scientific knowledge gained from manned lunar exploration was determined by most of the American people to be not worth the cost of continued activity there. Going to the Moon is very, very expensive for just a few rocks. We were willing to do it to beat the Russians there during the Cold War, but that's not an issue any more.

Maybe someday we'll go back there to mine some Helium-3, but by that time we might find and easier way to get it, or manufacture it, or to do fusion research without it.

The most obvious use for the Moon right now is radioastronomy. Putting several huge radio telescopes in craters on lunar farside, shielded from most of the radio noise of Earth, would probably allow us to find any alien signals that might be floating around out there. And the construction could be done by little, web-spinning robots pretty cheaply, too.

We'll make it back to the Moon eventually, but we need a really good reason to do it.

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no money in it? what a load of crap this reason is.

im no genius but if you evolution fanatics want to find something about how the universe was created you would think the moon was the first place they would look and this is only one reason to go back.

35 years since the last moon landing and technology was at its begening now technology has shot off you would think they would go back and observe the moon properly.

and i mean not collect a few rocks but go there and collect data in detail.
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