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posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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I'd say a better idea would be if nobody buys shares. It would make it sound like that nobody supports the chip being implemented. Or here's a better idea. Blow up the factory of where it's getting produced.




posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Shrukin89
I'd say a better idea would be if nobody buys shares. It would make it sound like that nobody supports the chip being implemented. Or here's a better idea. Blow up the factory of where it's getting produced.


Okay, shares of the stock will be bought by the greedy billionaires like the Bilderberg Group.

Second, you're talking about illegal activities now. Get off this thread, period.



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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Well i think by buying stock in verichip you are actualy helping them to develop their compagny better.
You are supporting them and their technology.

With this logic i should invest in cluster bomb factories to stop them making clusterbombs.


The more moneyy you give them the more power they have, simple as that.

I realy hope i am not the only on seeing this.



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by jaamaan
Well i think by buying stock in verichip you are actualy helping them to develop their compagny better.
You are supporting them and their technology.

With this logic i should invest in cluster bomb factories to stop them making clusterbombs.


The more moneyy you give them the more power they have, simple as that.

I realy hope i am not the only on seeing this.


They've got Government grants and black slush funds for that. This chipping will be implemented by 2020, whether you're on board with it or not.

TinWiki - 2020 Neural Implant Chip

jaamaan, you sound similar to a lemming right here. Instead of trying to influence the change into the position of power, you'd rather run mindlessly off the cliff with the others.

[edit on 25-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by RRconservative
 


Right, and I think you're an instigator. Move along please. I'll make money whethere ATS'ers purchase the stock or not.

Do not accuse Me of something like that again.





I guess people that disagree with you are instigators? You like Verichip because youv'e obviously invested some money in them. Spreading the word about them, getting others to buy stock, makes the stock go higher. You benefit. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I disagree with Verichips claim to be impervious to the government, in fact they may even be working with the government.

I believe I am doing members of ATS a great service by at least giving them a chance to do some research before they blow some money on a companies stock that may be worthless in the next few years.

Have you ever thought of why their stock is only trading around a buck fifty right now?

[edit on 25-6-2008 by RRconservative]



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 07:53 PM
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Only lemming here is SpartanKing and anyone who listens to him. Verichip has already agreed to sell 99% of their company to Stanley Works for what will be between $1.25 and $1.35 per share for shareholders. They are in the process of selling their health link business. Healthlink represents 1% of their previous revenues and 19% of their expenses so its value is very questionable.

So basically anyone buying this stock is betting that the healthlink business, which only loses money is worth more than $.35 to $.45 per share. anything less and you end up losing money investing in two companies which have been bought out.

Don't put your money into this.
Verichip Proxy Statement



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 07:56 PM
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What if we were to buy ALL the shares from this company, then wait it out until it's really high, then have everyone sell off fast to crash this company so they can't make the chip anymore?



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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I got an invite to to say a few words, so here goes.



  • Can a well-meaning person, taking such small ownership upon themselves, effect a significant change?


  • The asnwer is "no." Civic conspiracy only works when lots of people can harness their efforts. the individual stockholder is only effective IF he or she can own enough stock to represent a major interest. A thousand people each owning one share will get no where. One person owning a thousand shares will get further.

    How do you make this concept work? Simple. Create a conspiracy to fight a conspiracy. This was one of the very first thins I wrote about on ATS. In this case, your conspirators would pool their money to start a lawful business, which would then move to buy enough shares of Verichip to initiate a takeover. Buy the company, take control of its patented assets, and then...shut it down.

    There's obviously more to this, but T&C's prevent me from saying it.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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    That sounds a lot like "Disaster Capitalism" *, turned on the capitalist market itself. The premise being that certain companies are set up to benefit from disasters (such as wars, famine, etc), and also from 'sweeping up the pieces' left in the disaster's wake. Their incentive is to encourage such disasters, profit from them, and in turn invest a portion of those proceeds as 'seed money', positioning for the next disaster, and repeat the cycle.

    For example a competitor company could stack the board of a target company and cause extra expense, unbenificial licensing deals, bad decisions, etc, from which they profit, leading the company into a downward spiral. Then, when the stock is low enough, a buyout would recover any obligations, and adsorb the remaining assets.

    That's obviously one of the reasons there's independent fiduciary oversight, SEC, of all publicly traded companies.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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    Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
    Get off this thread, period.


    Easy killer....

    The thread is your property right up until you click the post button. From that point on it resides in the public domain and is no longer 'yours'. You have no right to demand a person 'off' this thread. Lighten up man.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:16 PM
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    No, I do not feel that everyone specifically who disagrees with the point of view I've expressed is an instigator, just you because you've replied that I would try to profit via the Bilderberg Group's motives, while I have only the voting power in mind to stop them as the only reason to do this.

    reply to post by Terran Blue
     


    Terran Blue, thank you for understanding what I am trying to say here. It's a 100% legal way to wrest control from the company, IF people chose to do so.

    reply to post by Shrukin89
     


    While I agree with your comment about not supporting being chipped, as I am vehemenantly opposed to something like that, I can not agree with nor condone blowing up the building for multiple reasons.

    1) Who knows who might be killed in the process? It would be considered a terrorist action as well.

    2) They probably manufacture these devices in some Thirld World country that the President will only try to "liberate" later anyway.

    reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity
     


    I do not think you know the definition of a lemming, let alone it being a mass panic decision I was alluding to.

    1) Mass panic - Going to go get your guns, whick will only metaphorically let alone literally give the Government realistic reasons to kill you. Giving them legitimate ammunition as it were to do what they want to do anyway.

    2) Mindless rage - To attack because of sheer blind unintelligent thinking.

    reply to post by LongTimeLurker
     


    That is a completely thought provoking and interesting option you have there. I am not condoning it at this moment, but at least it's not something silly like blowing the buidling up, or picking up a gun.


    reply to post by Justin Oldham
     


    JO, thanks for dropping in to say a few intelligent words. I appreciate that.

    While, yes, what JO says would be in violation of T & C in conspiring to act together in conjunction, I am not advocating that either here.

    What I am stating, is in fact, instead of picking up a weapon, instead of screaming revolution and instigating the Government into going into a policy of sending in organized Law Enforcement to storm some building you are in, instead to intelligently think about healthy alternatives here.

    If you have voting rights in the company, and they are voting on to give Government more control over it, you can veto that option, thereby negating that action. It's your choice.

    If you have voting rights in the company, and they are voting on to give the company to North Korea through Kim Jong Ill purchasing it, you can veto that option as well. It's your choice.

    The list goes on and one here. I think you might get the point.



    I am not encouraging anyone to be stupid here and make an idiotic choice via actually stalking someone.


    [edit on 25-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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    Why would the government use a public company to supply a mass chipping operation? The government will have its own means of production when the time comes. Biochip research and management will also be internal. Verichip is potentially a front to introduce the idea of chipping into the national concious.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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    Originally posted by SteveR
    Why would the government use a public company to supply a mass chipping operation? The government will have its own means of production when the time comes. Biochip research and management will also be internal. Verichip is potentially a front to introduce the idea of chipping into the national concious.


    Everything is going to the civilian sector through Government outsourcing, so as to bypass the Constitution. There's a lot more to it as well as to the RFID, or Radio Frequency Identification Device. If it's a front, it's still a way to find out more information as well as gain money which can be used elsewhere.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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    I do not think you know the definition of a lemming, let alone it being a mass panic decision I was alluding to.

    1) Mass panic - Going to go get your guns, whick will only metaphorically let alone literally give the Government realistic reasons to kill you. Giving them legitimate ammunition as it were to do what they want to do anyway.

    2) Mindless rage - To attack because of sheer blind unintelligent thinking.



    My definition of a lemming is someone who takes a risk with very little chance of having a positive result. Especially, in the case, when the only prfitable portion of the company in question is already sold for a lower price then the current trading price.

    I posted this on another thread of yours, but you just seem to ignore it and continuing to pump this stock. As for having any say, the majority of this company's shares have already committed to this deal and there is nothing you could do even if you held all the rest of the shares.

    Maybe you should look at SWK instead as they are the acquirers.



    posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 10:12 PM
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    That may be your definition, but it's yours, not the correct one.

    What compant is SWK, as it brings up multiple companies when I looked it up?



    posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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    SpartanKingLeonides,

    Your idea was brilliant. As our corrupt government wants to (and in my opinion secretly has) turn this once great nation into a fascist country, fascist being the marriage of corporations and the military industrial complex, buying into the corporations in question and having voting rights would at least be a step in the right direction. I'm not into gambling, I see the stock market as a giant casino, but as a strategic move, I think this is great. Thumbs up for being creative in your thinking!



    posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 04:53 AM
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    Lets brake it down some more.

    Do you realy think that verichip puts enough stock on the market so that the public could have a grand share in them?
    I think not.
    Just before you might get your 51% they just release more stock.

    Also, do you think you can put in more money then all those big bankers ?

    Your idea sounds nice on the surface, but in the end you are just giving them money to futher their agenda.

    If you think you can fight them with their own weapons you should think again.

    5% of the people in the world own 90% of all money, you think you can fight them with money ?

    Again i think not.

    Better to become as much independent as possible, stay away from big money.

    Dont give them your money or resources.

    [edit on 26-6-2008 by jaamaan]



    posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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    Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
    SpartanKingLeonides,

    Your idea was brilliant. As our corrupt government wants to (and in my opinion secretly has) turn this once great nation into a fascist country, fascist being the marriage of corporations and the military industrial complex, buying into the corporations in question and having voting rights would at least be a step in the right direction. I'm not into gambling, I see the stock market as a giant casino, but as a strategic move, I think this is great. Thumbs up for being creative in your thinking!


    Well, I have to say thanks to the Anonymous poster. With all due respect, you are the first Anonymous ATS'er I've ever replied to as the usual comments are derogatory or full of drivel. Thanks.

    What I was outlining about purchasing shares in Verichip, is pretty much the only legal way to get back into how the process is done.

    Most people turn around and the usual comment of "I'll get ma gun, hyuck hyuck..." or some other ignorant comment that's only going to get them dead.

    I've said the same comment in the past about the guns, and I know when and where to use them, and in regards to Verichip, at least if I'm a shareholder I get some say in the whole program. Next company in My sights to purchase shares in is OnStar. They wanna track Me, I'm going to track them, and learn their politics within the company from the inside out.



    [edit on 26-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]






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