I can't help with becoming a member, but their US website lists points of contact in most, if not
all, Catholic dioceses in the states.
If you're not in the US, you might find useful contact info on their global site.
Incidentally, I have to say - without being disrespectful - that one would think such a venerable order would be able to find, somewhere among its
ranks, a copy-editor.
They are similar to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, in that they have managed to survive since the Crusades, and they enjoy the "protection"
and blessings of the Vatican. And of course, they do good works. But as far as I know, they do not have the unique diplomatic status that the SMOM
have secured for themselves.
As I said, I can't tell you how to become a member. From my reading, in addition to being Catholic (duh) you are required to swear some sort of
"Oath against Modernism," or some such.
Good luck, I'm sure being part of that organization would be something to be proud of. There are, after all, very few ways to legitimately be called
a Knight these days.
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Topic started on 24-6-2008 @ 06:57 PM by pacotj
Hello
Does someone knows the requirements for membership in the Order of the Holy Sepulchre?
And Are they similiar to the Order of Malta?
Francisco
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Does someone knows the requirements for membership in the Order of the Holy Sepulchre?
And Are they similiar to the Order of Malta?
Francisco
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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 02:10 PM by emsed1
They have these on the site if it helps:
and:
www.holysepulchre.net...
(Please stand and face the Papal Flag and repeat after me [Lieutenant] ) In the presence of God and this company I solemnly swear my loyalty and obedience to the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict XVI.
and:
www.holysepulchre.net...
reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 11:21 AM by Zhenyghi
reply to post by pacotj
To be a member you have to be proposed by:
1) a fellow member
2) your pastor
3) your ordinary (bishop or archbishop)
4) the Vatican
I was proposed by a fellow member, and I'd wager that is how most people enter, with fewer people proposed by their pastor, and few still proposed directly by their local ordinary. I would guess that in only very rare circumstances would one be proposed by the Vatican.
From the levels you are proposed from, you then require a statement of approval up the line. For example, I was proposed by a fellow member, thus it was required that my pastor, local ordinary, and finally the Vatican research and approve my worthiness.
There are several ancient perogatives of membership, which have fallen into disuse. Today, it is merely to be able to were the cape and beret (or grand uniform), and the insignia. Further, you receive an illuminated Degree/Diploma of Investiture in Latin, and you can legally refer to yourself as "Sir" or "Dame", although the title is not heriditary.
I have a translation of the Latin text taped on the back of my framed investiture document. Perhaps I'll post that here for review?..
To be a member you have to be proposed by:
1) a fellow member
2) your pastor
3) your ordinary (bishop or archbishop)
4) the Vatican
I was proposed by a fellow member, and I'd wager that is how most people enter, with fewer people proposed by their pastor, and few still proposed directly by their local ordinary. I would guess that in only very rare circumstances would one be proposed by the Vatican.
From the levels you are proposed from, you then require a statement of approval up the line. For example, I was proposed by a fellow member, thus it was required that my pastor, local ordinary, and finally the Vatican research and approve my worthiness.
There are several ancient perogatives of membership, which have fallen into disuse. Today, it is merely to be able to were the cape and beret (or grand uniform), and the insignia. Further, you receive an illuminated Degree/Diploma of Investiture in Latin, and you can legally refer to yourself as "Sir" or "Dame", although the title is not heriditary.
I have a translation of the Latin text taped on the back of my framed investiture document. Perhaps I'll post that here for review?..
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6-6-2012 by Zhenyghi because: spelling
reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 12:47 PM by Masonic Light
reply to post by Zhenyghi
There is also the Masonic and Military Order of the Red Cross of Constantine and the Appendant Orders of the Holy Sepulchre and of St John the Evangelist.
There is also the Masonic and Military Order of the Red Cross of Constantine and the Appendant Orders of the Holy Sepulchre and of St John the Evangelist.
reply posted on 13-6-2012 @ 01:13 AM by BobAthome
reply to post by pacotj
welcome,, got something for u and your guys ,,
discuss freely
"THE BREAD RECIPE"@
The following is taken from
"Essene Gospel of John"
as translated by
Edward Szekely.and Edits by Me.*,**.
"Let the angels of God
prepare your bread.
Moisten your wheat,
that the angels of water may enter it."
Then
set it in the
air,
that the angel of air may embrace it.
And leave it from morning to evening beneath the sun,
that the angel of
sunshine
may descend upon it.
And
the
blessings of the three angels
will soon make the germ of life
to sprout in your wheat.
Then
crush your grain,
and make thin wafers,
as did your forefathers
when they departed out of Egypt,
the house of bondage.
Put them back again beneath the sun
from its appearing, and when it is risen to its highest in the heavens,
turn them over on the other side
that they may be embraced there also by the angel of
sunshine,
and leave them there until the sun sets.
For the angels
of
water,
and
air and
of
sunshine
fed and ripened the wheat
in the field,
and they likewise must prepare also your bread.
And the same sun which,
with the fire of life,
made the wheat to grow and ripen,
must cook your bread with the same fire.
For the fire of the sun gives life
to the wheat,
to the bread,
and to the
body.
But the fire of death
kills the
wheat,
the
bread,
and the
body.
And the living angels
of the living God
serve only living men.
For God
is the God
of the living,
and not
the God of the dead."
*****************************************
*Edits
Update: 6/03/12
The above Bread Recipe,,was written,,
before the death of Christ,,fact,
and
it is my
own personal belief,
that this is
"Christ's Own Recipe".
or
put in
another more modern interpretation,
"Bread For Dummies"
by Yeshua Ben Joseph.
See what I'm saying,,,
Now,,taken from the above Recipe,,which is intact,,and original in it's wording,,
**I have added, correct, puncuation.
ya puncuation counts,,
We see the line,,
"then the living God serve only living men",
is
at the time it was written,,valid.
The Line,,,
"For God is the God of the living,
and not the God of the dead.",
is also valid."
Now,, I put too one and all,,learned and otherwise,
And
I put too whomever,,,that,, once Christ,,
otherwise know as,,
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
Jesus,
Son of God,
Son of Man,
Messiah,
Saviour,
Prophet,,
King,etc,,,etc,,,et al.
That once Christ died on the Cross,
in that Hour,
after the words,
"Father,into your hands,"
happened,,,God The Father, Changed.
So we must update,, "THE BREAD RECIPE" to reflect that change.
Now i know some will say "how can u update the word of a God?",
,for "we are but mortal men,,not able too correct the Word of God!",,
too which i remind everyone,its a bread recipe,,the assumption that it is "THE BREAD RECIPE"@ written by Christ,is mine,,and i will shoulder that burden, gladly,, i like bread making,,it's good for the Arthritus,,in my fingers.
I will assume the original,THE BREAD RECIPE works.(anyone from the that part of the World reading this might want too jump in for confirmation,,in real time ),,
On edits of the original,,
"then the living God serve only living men",
must be changed
too,,
"the living God serve's living men as well as dead, and "For God is the God of the Living, AND the God of the Dead.
Update Finished.
"THE BREAD RECIPE"
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
Personally i like that one best.
"THE BREAD RECIPE"
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
with updates by me.
would be cool.
And this is for the one's who thought they were safe from the Living
God. God of the Dead,,,same God.
So yes too the Families,,i give you,,
"THE BREAD RECIPE".
i can only hope this will help.
faith.
welcome,, got something for u and your guys ,,
discuss freely
"THE BREAD RECIPE"@
The following is taken from
"Essene Gospel of John"
as translated by
Edward Szekely.and Edits by Me.*,**.
"Let the angels of God
prepare your bread.
Moisten your wheat,
that the angels of water may enter it."
Then
set it in the
air,
that the angel of air may embrace it.
And leave it from morning to evening beneath the sun,
that the angel of
sunshine
may descend upon it.
And
the
blessings of the three angels
will soon make the germ of life
to sprout in your wheat.
Then
crush your grain,
and make thin wafers,
as did your forefathers
when they departed out of Egypt,
the house of bondage.
Put them back again beneath the sun
from its appearing, and when it is risen to its highest in the heavens,
turn them over on the other side
that they may be embraced there also by the angel of
sunshine,
and leave them there until the sun sets.
For the angels
of
water,
and
air and
of
sunshine
fed and ripened the wheat
in the field,
and they likewise must prepare also your bread.
And the same sun which,
with the fire of life,
made the wheat to grow and ripen,
must cook your bread with the same fire.
For the fire of the sun gives life
to the wheat,
to the bread,
and to the
body.
But the fire of death
kills the
wheat,
the
bread,
and the
body.
And the living angels
of the living God
serve only living men.
For God
is the God
of the living,
and not
the God of the dead."
*****************************************
*Edits
Update: 6/03/12
The above Bread Recipe,,was written,,
before the death of Christ,,fact,
and
it is my
own personal belief,
that this is
"Christ's Own Recipe".
or
put in
another more modern interpretation,
"Bread For Dummies"
by Yeshua Ben Joseph.
See what I'm saying,,,
Now,,taken from the above Recipe,,which is intact,,and original in it's wording,,
**I have added, correct, puncuation.
ya puncuation counts,,
We see the line,,
"then the living God serve only living men",
is
at the time it was written,,valid.
The Line,,,
"For God is the God of the living,
and not the God of the dead.",
is also valid."
Now,, I put too one and all,,learned and otherwise,
And
I put too whomever,,,that,, once Christ,,
otherwise know as,,
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
Jesus,
Son of God,
Son of Man,
Messiah,
Saviour,
Prophet,,
King,etc,,,etc,,,et al.
That once Christ died on the Cross,
in that Hour,
after the words,
"Father,into your hands,"
happened,,,God The Father, Changed.
So we must update,, "THE BREAD RECIPE" to reflect that change.
Now i know some will say "how can u update the word of a God?",
,for "we are but mortal men,,not able too correct the Word of God!",,
too which i remind everyone,its a bread recipe,,the assumption that it is "THE BREAD RECIPE"@ written by Christ,is mine,,and i will shoulder that burden, gladly,, i like bread making,,it's good for the Arthritus,,in my fingers.
I will assume the original,THE BREAD RECIPE works.(anyone from the that part of the World reading this might want too jump in for confirmation,,in real time ),,
On edits of the original,,
"then the living God serve only living men",
must be changed
too,,
"the living God serve's living men as well as dead, and "For God is the God of the Living, AND the God of the Dead.
Update Finished.
"THE BREAD RECIPE"
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
Personally i like that one best.
"THE BREAD RECIPE"
Yeshua Ben Joseph,
with updates by me
. would be cool.
And this is for the one's who thought they were safe from the Living
God. God of the Dead,,,same God.
So yes too the Families,,i give you,,
"THE BREAD RECIPE".
i can only hope this will help.
faith.
reply posted on 13-6-2012 @ 06:37 AM by Zhenyghi
reply to post by chief_counsellor
Yes, I'm a KHS; got invested in 2006. I'm up for promotion soon (to KCHS). I can't say what got me the invite, specifically. I know several fellow members from the Alhambra that are also in the H.S.
Be careful what you wish for! There are very serious and solemn obligations with regard to living your life, and monetary obligations.
Knights of Malta is very, very exclusive, and just as expensive. I once thought I'd like to be a member, but after my taste in the EOHSJ, I think I'll pass, unless I win the lottery, or quadruple my salary somehow.
If you're looking at initial and continuing monetary obligations, EOHSJ is much less costly than Malta. Heck, for that matter the Knights of St. Gregory (I'm not a member) has very little monetary obligations, and is higher in rank of precedence than the Holy Sepulchre. If I could do it again and have a choice, I'd go with the Knights of St. Gregory.
Yes, I'm a KHS; got invested in 2006. I'm up for promotion soon (to KCHS). I can't say what got me the invite, specifically. I know several fellow members from the Alhambra that are also in the H.S.
Be careful what you wish for! There are very serious and solemn obligations with regard to living your life, and monetary obligations.
Knights of Malta is very, very exclusive, and just as expensive. I once thought I'd like to be a member, but after my taste in the EOHSJ, I think I'll pass, unless I win the lottery, or quadruple my salary somehow.
If you're looking at initial and continuing monetary obligations, EOHSJ is much less costly than Malta. Heck, for that matter the Knights of St. Gregory (I'm not a member) has very little monetary obligations, and is higher in rank of precedence than the Holy Sepulchre. If I could do it again and have a choice, I'd go with the Knights of St. Gregory.
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