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Topic started on 24-6-2008 @ 06:27 PM by spongebob002
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I am a senoir student in animation, and game design. If you have ever seen the alien autopsy on tv, or downloaded it from a peer to peer site like
Azureus or Emule plus, then you have seen a real alien autopsy. It is possible to create a fake or bogus hoax of the alien autopsy. I have seen on tv
the alien autopsy in the mid nighties, like 1995, and 3d hasn't goten to look realistic until 1995, like Jurastic Park movie. To create a hoax like
that in 1995 would cost alot of money. I'm a animator, and to create a hoax like the alien autopsy would be very exspensive to make, and would be
very exspensive to make even nowadays. The film was from a film that was around the 1950's according to the tellevision station that played it in the
mid nighties. Maybe the alien craft was hit by lightning. This film was from area 51. Alien's exists. Outer sapce goes on for infinity, and is still
growing new universes, like new galacies are being born according to Nasa's satellite. To think we are the only living things in the entire outer
space is being very conceded.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:29 PM by umbr45
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The alien autopsy fake was not animated. It used a model that was created. I don't remember what however, but it wasn't animated.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:30 PM by KidOK
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Im pretty sure the debate wasnt whether it was 3d animation, but whether it was a "manican", "doll", or whatever you want to call it.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:31 PM by spongebob002
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Emule Plus is a peer to peer that has a IP filter built into it, and Azureus is a peer to peer program, but with Azureus you'll need to donload, and
install the instalation plugin called safe peer, so you'll be anonomous when you file share which is very important if you are filesharing nowadays.
Fileshareing nowadays without some kind of IP filter like peer guardian is like taking a risk on getting a lawsuite, if the file has copyright on it.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:35 PM by spongebob002
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Even if the alien autopsy was a manican, it still would be very exspensive to make. Who and why would people spend alot of money to create a hoax.
Even Hollywood would still be proud today to create a hoax, like the alien autopsy. If you never seen it, then download it.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:36 PM by umbr45
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I'm not sure, he seems to be talking an awful lot about animation. No animation needed for a manican and wouldn't have been any harder then that it
is today really.
The hoax was made as they claimed it was an exact copy of real footage which had been stored badly and so no longer worked.
And I believe it was done very cheaply indeed.
And why are you now posting about peer to peer sharing?
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:37 PM by spongebob002
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I believe that the alien autopsy of area 51 has no a copyright to it.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:40 PM by KidOK
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Because of the ROI. I remember reading where the guy who sold it got a pretty large sum of money for the video.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:40 PM by spongebob002
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I am talking about peer to peer, because I'm not sure if it is available for a free download from the internet. If it is available for free download
on the web, then I'm not aware of it.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:47 PM by Alora
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I remember watching the original airing, and during the tv show Stan Winston said that if it was faked, it was the most impressive special effects he
had ever seen. And if it was faked, the person who did it should call him, because he would hire that person immediately without question.
I always thought that was interesting-- that someone as revered as Stan Winston would "ooo and awe" over the video and at the time it made me
believe the video to be real.
Anyway- my useless 2 cents
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 07:02 PM by Badge01
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There are several 'tells' as to it being a fake autopsy.
There's a place where one of the docs brushes the arm of the dummy and it shakes like a rubber appliance.
The autopsy procedures are not even close to real autopsy procedures. Just because something is 'alien' the methodology is the same.
The video is inter-cut in ways that betray the way it is made. Jump cuts, dissolves, and fade ins and outs. The camera type usually has a
characteristic way the subject fades in and out when the film is stopped and started and this is not evident. The angles he uses are not done
correctly to show the procedure but are obviously done to obscure important detail.
There's no reason for the doctors to be dressed like they are, especially the guy behind the window, isolated from the entire procedure. Note that
he's wearing a full moon-suit even though he's not exposed.
There are a few more things, but that's off the top of my head, having done a analysis of it about 10-12 years ago.
Finally, if you read up on it Ray Santilli admits the film is a 'reconstruction' of the real film, saying that the original had degraded due to time
and heat.
Wiki: Alien Autopsy (Santilli film)
Ray Santilli and fellow producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (a "few frames," in their words), while
the rest was a reconstruction of twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which Santilli had viewed in 1992 but which had
subsequently degraded from humidity and heat.
He even goes so far as to detail how they made it using sheep parts:
According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys,
an artist and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in
raspberry jam, chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also
played the role of the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate
attempts at making the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins
across London.[2]
HTH.
Guess this shows you should do a little research on stuff like this before you go posting things and irreparably damaging your credibility here.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 07:10 PM by umbr45
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There is in fact a film called alien autopsey whihch tells you much of how it was faked as well.
It is not a documentary, but based on what Ray and Gary said.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 07:17 PM by argentus
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reply to post by Alora
The demonity of your avatar puts me off, but your words ring true. What's a 50-year old phart to do?
Do red eyes=demon? unknown.
ergo, focus on the words and stop being a numbknutz.
Well said Alora ;o)+
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 07:18 PM by spongebob002
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I will do some research before I post stuff on any website from now on, but this hoax was done like in a professional way. Whoever did this hoax
should be in the entertainment industry becoming rich.
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 07:21 PM by umbr45
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Actually I think it was done mostly through simple skills. Was one person involved...not Ray or Gary a butcher, who was able to help with the inards
and cutting tools. As well as filming everything.
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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 09:01 AM by Anonymous ATS
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The alien autopsy video is an obvious hoax, I am a medical student and I can tell you now the way that autopsy is carried out is just laughable! If it
were a real autopsy it would have been carried out in a much more methodical manner rather than the slap-dash cut a peice off and put it into a tray.
Also if I remember, was'nt the clock a major give away to it being fake?
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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 09:16 AM by Anonymous ATS
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with todays technology... and a little imagination... it is possible to fake just about anything on film now... and it has been for a long time.. for
someone to make a statement that it cant be done,.. is out of touch with reality.
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reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 02:34 AM by Xeros
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It's no secret that the guys came forward and admitted it was a hoax. There was a whole documentary (not the movie) on how they did it includng
people like the butcher who gave them the insides, the guy who made the dummy, various people involved. It was filmed in a flat in London and cost
barely anything. They even showed a prop they had (that metallic alien hand plate thing)
Here we go, a quick search does the trick:-
On April 4, 2006, two days prior to the UK release of Alien Autopsy (a British comedy feature film on the subject of the footage), British Sky
Broadcasting broadcast a documentary, Eamonn Investigates: Alien Autopsy, presented by Eamonn Holmes. In this program, Ray Santilli and fellow
producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (a "few frames," in their words), while the rest was a reconstruction of
twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which Santilli had viewed in 1992 but which had subsequently degraded from humidity and
heat. They said that only a few frames of the original were still intact by the time they had raised enough money to purchase it.[2]
Santilli and Shoefield stated that they had "restored" the damaged footage by filming a simulated autopsy on a fabricated alien, based upon what
Santilli saw in 1992, and then adding in a few frames of the original film that had not degraded. They have not identified which parts are original
footage.[2]
According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys, an artist
and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in raspberry jam,
chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also played the role of
the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate attempts at making
the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins across
London.[2]
Alien objects, supposedly items recovered from the crash site, were depicted in the footage. These included alien symbols and six-finger control
panels, which Santilli describes in the Sky documentary as being the result of artistic licence on his part. These artefacts were also created by
Humphreys. The footage also showed a man reading a statement "verifying" his identity as the original cameraman and the source of the footage.
Santilli and Shoefield admitted in the documentary that they had found an unidentified homeless man on the streets of Los Angeles, persuaded him to
play the role of the cameraman, and filmed him in a motel.
en.wikipedia.org...
I hope you're talking about the same thing
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reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 04:29 PM by Alora
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Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by Alora
The demonity of your avatar puts me off, but your words ring true. What's a 50-year old phart to do?
Do red eyes=demon? unknown.
ergo, focus on the words and stop being a numbknutz.
Well said Alora ;o)+
LOL- sorry. Perhaps cover that part of your screen with your hand next time? The eyes won't burn through your hand. Or will they *evil laugh*
Just kidding.
Anyway- on topic: Am I one of the rare ones who was broken hearted that this was fake? I thought we were actually making a large step foward. But
alas, a hoaxster had to throw us a big step back.
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reply posted on 30-6-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Anonymous ATS
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