reply to post by jetxnet
Right. Maybe you can explain how different that is to nowadays capitalist society. The elites flood you with ads telling you how to spend your cash.
You are free, so it doesn't work... "Smirk"
“Guaranty Trust, Union Banking Corp. were Harriman & Nazi interests that funded Hitler and helped construct and finance Nazism, National Socialism.
“Meanwhile, the Order kept a hold on professional associations relating to Soviet Union. Anglo-Russian Chamber of Commerce was created in 1920 to promote trade with Russia. It was needed by Soviet Union to get the Czar’s industries working again. Chairman of the Executive Committee of Anglo-Russian Chamber Of Commerce was helped by Samuel R. Berton, a vice president of Guaranty Trust. The Order was aware that ‘issuing credits’ to U.S.S.R. was illegal. It wasn’t made legal until 1933 when President Roosevelt got elected.
“Even though it was illegal and treason against the United States Government, Guaranty Trust did more than trade in Russian credits. Guaranty Trust made a joint banking agreement with the Soviets and installed a Guaranty Trust Vice President, Max May, as Director in Charge of the foreign division of a Soviet bank, the Ruskombank.
“Meanwhile the U.S. Government told U.S. citizens Soviet Communists were murderers.
“Meanwhile the Department Of Justice was deporting ‘Reds’ back to Soviet Union.
“Meanwhile every American politician-lawyer was telling the American public the United States would have no relations with the Soviets.
“But behind the scenes Guaranty Trust Co. was actually running a division of a Soviet bank. American troops were being cheered by Soviet revolutionaries for helping protect the ‘Revolution’. The Order’s law firm Simpson, Thatcher & Bartlett represented the Soviet State Bank in the U.S. In 1927 Simpson, Thatcher & Bartlett told U.S. Government, Soviets were starting to increase U.S. bank deposits. This increase was priming the pump for huge payments to be directed to a few favored U.S. ruling family firms to build the Soviet First Five Year Plan. At the same time, in 1928, Secretary Kellogg said the government of the U.S. maintained the position it would be futile and unwise to enter into relations with Soviet Government. At this time the U.S., with implicit government approval, was involved in planning the First Five Year Plan in Russia. The planning work was done by American firms. Order construction of the Soviet dialectic arm continued through the 1930s up to World War II. In 1941 W.A. Harriman was appointed Lend Lease Administrator to assure flow of U.S. technology and products to Soviet Union. Harriman violated Lend Lease law that required only military goods could be shipped to Soviet Union. He shipped vast amounts of industrial equipment.
“Harriman shipped U.S. Treasury Department currency plates. Now the Soviet Communists could freely print U.S. dollars.
“During McCarthy era while Communists were persecuted in U.S., ruling family banking interests had well-established interlocking board members on Soviet Communist banks, and had been financing and issuing credit to the Communist,40 years,” Antony Sutton said.
For his troubles not to mention his accurate and well-documented research, Antony was blackballed by the establishment in America, and feared for his life each day. He died in 2002,


Originally posted by Solarskye
All I can say to the OP is "very ignorant way to think." It's hard work, thinking for yourself and making your own dreams reality is the " American Dream ", not taking it from others. Isn't that what the government does? take from us. "Give me, give me, give me!" What about " earn it, earn it, earn it!".
Originally posted by Zepherian
reply to post by Vasa Croe
What those families have done to get themselves into the top 1% of income is make money from the work of others, almost always going for low salary, high profit corporate structures. If you think that by defending the top you're helping the bottom then you've bought into all the lies corporate marketing has brainwashed society with, and I can only urge you to read more about this issue in the hope that sometime you'll see the reality of how almost all the rich are parasites of almost everyone else. They are accumulating money, energy, which is not flowing in the economy in a free and distributed manner, so inevitably their existance has a negative impact on society.
I won't dispute that there are wealthy people that are nice, and I don't want a system that keeps people from being rich, but somewhere along the lines it's not about being rich anymore and people get exploited.
Cap it high, but cap wealth, and society will work better as long as there is transparancy in the distribution of money and in how it relates to actual work. Owning golden shares is not work.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by counterterrorist
Those than can, do and those that can't, piss, moan, complain and try and figure out how to steal from those who can.
See the Former USSR and its history for the results of what you are proposing. Is a society of Vodkaholics truly preferable to our current system? ... Capitalist countries where hard work and motivation are rewarded.
Only the lazy and unmotivated among us would be in favor of Socialism with a notable exception. Those who already have their money in the bank or who possess power who want to use Socialism as a means to control the "little people". Mr. Gore would be an excellent example. He would agree with you completely. You aren't Mr. Gore are you?
What would your job be in this system you propose? Cleaning horse stalls, pig pens or toilets in the middle of the night?
Originally posted by Boom Slice
Wealth redistribution is quite simply...absurd. Why would anyone want to excel in any field in life when they can take the easy way out and receive the same exact amount of money for doing half the work?
This breeds a whole new level of complacency not yet seen on this earth. The will to advance as a society would be lost as there would be no incentive for people to push the bounds of anything.
Hunger and poverty...these things are unfortunately inevitable in any system
BTW, people can CHOOSE to redistribute their wealth, as many people do, by donating to various causes.