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Hopelessly confused -- do you understand? U.S.A. is a corporation, not a country.

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posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Historical Outline www.teamlaw.org...
1st: Martial Law is declared by President Lincoln on April 24th, 1863, with General Orders No. 100; under martial law authority, Congress and President Lincoln institute continuous martial law by ordering the states (people) either conscribe troops and or provide money in support of the North or be recognized as enemies of the nation; this martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today. This martial law authority gives the President (with or without Congress) the dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This conscription act remains in effect to this very day and is the foundation of Presidential Executive Orders authority; it was magnified in 1917 with The Trading with the Enemy Act (Public Law 65-91, 65th Congress, Session I, Chapters 105, 106, October 6, 1917). and again in 1933 with the Emergency War Powers Act, which is ratified and enhanced almost every year to this date by Congress. Today these Acts address the people of the United States themselves as their enemy.

2nd: The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a “municipal corporation” to govern the District of Columbia. Considering the fact that the municipal government itself was incorporated in 1808, an “Organic Act” (first Act) using the term “municipal corporation” in 1871 can only mean a private corporation owned by the municipality. Hereinafter we will call that private corporation, “Corp. U.S.” By consistent usage, Corp. U.S. trademarked the name, “United States Government” referring to themselves. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 places Congress in control (like a corporate board) and gives the purpose of the act to form a governing body over the municipality; this allowed Congress to direct the business needs of the government under the existent martial law and provided them with corporate abilities they would not otherwise have. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of the District of Columbia. Follow this link to see the effect of the District of Columbia Act of 1871.

3rd: In said Act, Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national constitution’s 13th Amendment and the national constitution's 14th, 15th and 16th amendments are respectively numbered 13th, 14th and 15th amendments in the Corp. U.S. Constitution. At this point take special notice and remember this Corp. U.S. method of adopting their own Constitution, they will add to it in the same manner in 1913.

4th: Corp. U.S. began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912, but they could not pay their debts so the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.' assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.

5th: As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government so they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said no (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation and had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name "Federal Reserve Bank". Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank whereby they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government; that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system—again it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.

6th: Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. Tax protesters challenge the IRS tax collection system based on this fact, however when we remember that Corp. U.S. originally created their constitution by simply drafting it and adopting it; there is no difference between that adoption and this—such is the nature of corporate enactments—when the corporate board (Congress) tells the secretary to enter the amendment as ratified (even thought the States had not ratified it) the Se3cretary was instructed that the Representatives word alone was sufficient for ratification. You must also note, this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court (in BRUSHABER v. UNION PACIFIC R. CO., 240 U.S. 1 (1916)) ruled the 16th amendment did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations and government employees. We agree, considering that they were created under the authority of Corp. U.S.

7th: Next (also 1913) Corp. U.S., through Congress, adopts (as if ratified) its 17th amendment. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the nation's Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected, which is the subject matter of this amendment; therefore they cannot pass such and Act and then of their own volition, order it entered as ratified. According to the United States Supreme Court, for Congress to propose such an amendment they would first have to pass an amendment that gave them the authority to discuss the matter.

8th: Accordingly, in 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for reelection in 1913 by popular vote were seated in Corp. U.S. Senate capacity only; their respective seats from their States remained vacant because neither the State Senates nor the State Governors appointed new Senators to replace them as is still required by the national Constitution for placement of a national Senator.

9th: In 1916, President Wilson is reelected by the Electoral College but their election is required to be confirmed by the constitutionally set Senate; where the new Corp. U.S. only Senators were allowed to participate in the Electoral College vote confirmation the only authority that could possibly have been used for electoral confirmation was corporate only. Therefore, President Wilson was not confirmed into office for his second term as President of the United States of America and was only seated in the Corp. U.S. Presidential capacity. Therefore the original jurisdiction government's seats were vacated because the people didn't seat any original jurisdiction government officers. It is important to note here that President Wilson retained his capacity as Commander in Chief of the military. Many people wonder about this fact imagining that such a capacity is bound to the President of the nation; however, When John Adams was President he assigned George Washington to the capacity of Commander in Chief of the military in preparation for an impending war with France. During this period, Mr. Adams became quite concerned because Mr. Washington became quite ill and passed on his acting military authority through his lead General Mr. Hamilton and Mr. Adams was concerned that if war did break out Mr. Hamilton would use that authority to create a military dictatorship of the nation. Mr. Adams averted the war through diplomacy and the title of Commander in Chief was returned to him.




posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 05:16 PM
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(cont from orig post)


(See: John Adams, by David McCullough, this book covers Mr. Adams concerns over this matter quite well. Mr. Adams was a fascinating man.)

10th: In 1917, Corp. U.S. enters W.W. I and passes their Trading with the Enemies Act.

11th: In 1933, Corp. U.S. is bankrupt, they force a banking holiday to exchange money backed Federal Reserve Notes with “legal tender” Federal Reserve Notes the Trading with the Enemies Act is adjusted to recognize the people of the United States as enemies of Corp. U.S.

12th: Some time after 1935, you ask Social Security Administration for a relationship with their program. With the express purpose of generating Beneficiary funds to United States General Trust Fund (GTF) the Social Security Administration creates an entity with a name (that sounds like your name but is spelled with all capital letters) and an account number (Social Security number). They give you the Social Security card and let you know that the card does not belong to you but you are to hold it for them until they want it back. If you are willing to accept that responsibility over the card you activate the card by signing it, which gives you the ability to act as the fiduciary for the cards actual owner Corp. U.S. and you can use the card’s name and number to thus transact business relations for the card’s actual owner. You are also to note that though the card verifies its agency (you as the single person with authority to control the entity so created) it is not for use as identification. On review: notice the Social Security Administration was the creator of the entity, they offered you the opportunity to serve its Trustee capacity (by lending it actual consciousness and physical capacity), they gave you something (the card) that does not belong to you to hold in trust and they reserved the actual owner of the thing (Corp. U.S.) as the beneficiary of the entity—by definition, this only describes the creation and existence of a Trust. More importantly: the name they gave this Trust is not your name, the number they gave the Trust is not your number and your lending actual consciousness and physical capacity to this Trust’s Trustee capacity does not limit you or your capacity to separately act in your natural sovereign capacity in any way—what you do, when you do it and how you do it is still totally up to you.

13th: In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreement, Corp. U.S. is quit claimed to the International Monetary Fund, and becomes a foreign controlled private corporation.14th: In 1968, at the National Governor's Conference in Lexington, Kentucky, the IMF leaders of the event proposed the dilemma the State governors were in for carrying out their business dealings in Federal Reserve Notes (foreign notes), which is forbidden in the national and State constitutions, alleging that if they did not do something to protect themselves the people would discover what had been done with their money and would likely to kill them all and start over. They suggested the States form corporations like Corp. U.S. and showed the advantages of the resultant uniform codes that could be created, which would allow better and more powerful control over the people, which thing the original jurisdiction governments of this nation had no capacity to do. Our Constitutions secure that the governments do not govern the people rather they govern themselves in accord with the limits of Law. The people govern themselves. Such is the foundational nature of our Constitutional Republic.

15th: By 1971, every State government in the union of States had formed such private corporations (Corp. State), in accord with the IMF admonition, and the people ceased to seat original jurisdiction government officials in their State government seats.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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This post is THE most important insight into why our economy is tanking (and has been for many years ) It also explains how the massive redistribution of wealth (upwards) has decimated the middle class and is now leading to a global economic meltdown. It is (THE) mechanism that TPTB have used to control not only our money, our political system, our nation and the world. It defines exactly who TPTB are and how they have moved the world into the NWO. It explains why there has been no difference in real policy changes from EITHER political parties over the last 100 years. and created deadlock in congress. It explains how congress has been nullified as a representative of "we the people"., Why our original Constitution is not the one we operate under, and why our elected officials become "puppets" even if they don't consciously realize it. It explains why we have a $14.500,000,000,000 debt. These and many more atrocities lead directly to CORP USA. MANY OF YOU HAVE SAID" FOLLOW THE MONEY". Well, here's your chance.
My 1st thread was to be this exact posting. In short, all things political, economic and conspiratorial that are discussed on ATS are directly tied to what is presented here. I am appalled that this thread did not run the gauntlet on ATS. You should have more S&F's from this post than anything ever posted here. What the hell is wrong with you ATS MEMBERS, especially those who profess to be independent rational thinkers. Can you not read and comprehend the magnitude of this information. If ever there there was a conspiracy this is it. If any of you really want a wake up call, read what he posted here. Damn folks, you all sit at your computers, hopefully looking for some real answers, and none of you responded.!!!!! Do you prefer to continue to stay on a merry-go-round, content with bashing each other over ideologies when Corp USA has declared all of us as enemy's of the Corp. This is not fiction or opinion folks. These are the cold hard facts, and deserve your attention and input. OP. Could you re-post this thread as new. Mods, what's the protocol here to bring this thread to the fore front for further review??

Stars and Flags to you. Salutes also. Can't say enough appreciation for this post. Great Job!!
















hese are the cold hard facts . I challenge all members to not only study this posting but refer everyone you know to study it. These f--king people control the world. They control YOU!!! They only options we have right now are anarchy, or revealing the truth to the world. IMHO I would prefer the latter. TPTB can not stand up against the truth for long.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:16 AM
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:16 AM
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So the USA is a corporation.... ok

And a CORPORATION is a PERSON ok

And if a PERSON FLOATS.....

A witch!

and you know what happens to witches...



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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Im too old to play head games. Exactly what's your point. I am interested,



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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OP you are wrong sorry.

The United States is a Constitutional Republic, it is not a corporation.

The problem is that we have several private corporations which have granted themselves unConstitutional power.

Namely the Federal Reserve which prints debt based imaginary currency.

Then we have the IRS which collects unconstitutional income taxes.

Also remember that our USPS is a private company and the post office is NOT owned by the people as well.


Welcome to reality, enjoy.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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I am quite aware that our original government was set up as a constitutional republic , but if you read the original post, you will find that we are currently operating under the non-ratified and illegal constitution adopted by corp usa,(a private entity) and that our senate is bound by contract to act as sitting members of the board of directors of the corp, Illegally elected and sworn to act in the interests of the corp, not in the interest of the citizens, who were declared enemy's of the corp. This is an obvious conflict of interest for it places the profits of the corp above the constitutional responsibilities of the peoples representative. Does this not concern you.?

www.teamlaw.org



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Is this all about the Virginia Company and Washington DC being classed as a DISTRICT and not a state to avoid stuff the Census beign copyrighted and the lettering of the words having signifigance and USA being registered as a company etc?

Just asking.

edit on 13-8-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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Op for this to be understandable will you add a synopsis of your point. It's difficult to digest what your pointing out. It is better to make a statement followed by your points then just throwing it all out there for us to try to figure out.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Jdawg9909
OP you are wrong sorry.

The United States is a Constitutional Republic, it is not a corporation.

The problem is that we have several private corporations which have granted themselves unConstitutional power.

Namely the Federal Reserve which prints debt based imaginary currency.

Then we have the IRS which collects unconstitutional income taxes.

Also remember that our USPS is a private company and the post office is NOT owned by the people as well.


Welcome to reality, enjoy.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Didn't mean to sound contrite, but because of the non-ratified constitution of the corp, in essence we are "functionally" governed by the corp., and the fact that the corp granted unconstitutional powers to the Fed and IRS is where I was leading to. Ultimately the charter, of Corp USA, was transferred to the IMF, another private corp. This was one of the
dangers the founding fathers warned us about. Now the IMF, an arm of the World Bank, in reality owns all the collateral pledged by the corp. That collateral included (ALL) the resources of the United States of America, including every man, women, and child. That move is what allowed the corp to grant unconstitutional powers to to the IRS. to collect taxes to pay the continuing debt.
Hope that clarifies my intent. I didn't select the title of the thread and can see where it may be misleading, but lets not start splitting hairs and get to the heart of the matter. A turd by any other name still stinks, right?



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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For the most part yes. But the entirety of the illegal and unconstitutional activities of Corp USA are complex, and can only be understood by a close examination of the "legal" basis by which they went about it. Would recommend a thorough read of the subject on www.teamlaw.org (historical outline)
It is truly eye opening.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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i apologize for the rant of the original post, but considering the depth of information available, I sometimes forget the old saying "when someone asks for a drink of water, don't hit him with a fire hose". Will try to do better in the future:



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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China's leader was on the news now saying China is a Corporation.


Remember the "Guardians of the free Republics" who were going to take over America peacefully?

They are missing now. One of the things they divulged was YOUR birth certificate is a BOND, dig yours out and look at who made your birth certificate...a BOND company.

Well apparently when you are BORN the Federal Corporation is allowed to get $1 million to operate....your BOND gets traded on Wallstreet.

The Guardians of the free Republics were going to cash these BONDS in and give everyone in America a credit card to use THEIR Bond money. For awhile you were able to take your BOND number on your birth certificate and look it up on Wallstreet to see what it was worth. I know people who looked themselves up and found their name associated with their BOND number and it said they were worth MILLIONS.

Well the powers at be....hushed them up and those people are all 'gone' now who had that knowledge. Those "Guardians of the free Republics" apparently even had some meetings in Las Vegas at a Resort Ball Room and were just about to start handing out cards so people could access their BONDS.....until they were stopped.


Why is your Birth Certificate a BOND? Is it really a traded commodity? You betcha.

Why do you think Puerto Rico was told all of their birth certificates were null and void and they recently had to get new birth certificates??? 4 million Puerto Ricans getting BONDED allowed the Federal Government to get.....

4 million times $1 million.....you do the math.

And that's what's kept America going. Anybody got one of the new Puerto Rico birth certificates?....Look closely at it.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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One has to admit that it would be smart to run a country as a corporation. To make sure that a country successfully makes money and stays afloat, I see nothing wrong with this. I will research this matter furthur.

What gets me is that we have, since inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913, who somehow acquired the power to create a false debt and loan it out, we have went from an asset based economy to a debt based economy. This philosophy of going into personal debt was promoted all the way until personal credit cards were then available in 1950.

Personally I see this debt structure as nothing more than bread and circuses. To keep man preoccupied with working to pay for things he never really owns or deserved in the first place. To buy toys, cars, and boats. It is really all quite absurd. I am willing to bet that most are living a lifestyle that they do not deserve. They have in essence rented the lifestyle that they never really own.

A debt based economy, like ours, is a pyramid scheme. All funds and ownership will be eventually funneled to the top. Namely banks and those who own these lending institutions.

That is why we swayed from precious metal backed currency. Those who created the false credit, out of thin air, to loan in the first place would of never been able to make money.

This system is financial slavery of the state.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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Just saying that corporations getting all in bed with the govt. and corporations getting considered to be people, ect.,when they do not ever DIE like people, so they are immortal - well, corporations are more like vampires then and they are going to cause America to just conflagrate.
Out of control corporatism is evil.



posted on Aug, 14 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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I think my location is fitting for this thread



posted on Aug, 15 2011 @ 03:20 AM
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The world is a corporation, it never "started" in the U.S, it was that way from the beginning.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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I agree. But the wisdom of the founding fathers thru the original constitution, was to create a state of soverignty for this nation and the individual. It didn't take long for that to be subverted. So now we are where we are. The question is can we extract ourselves and the nation from the clutches of the corp. It is a daughting task, but it is still possible. A truley edcucated public, with knowledge of past actions and determination to call their hand by disclosure of the facts is the only non-lethal approach. That's what this thread is hopeing to accomplish. We have to unite again. The general populace is woefully unedcated and has been pathetically myoptic for too long. This programed condition was part of the plan of TPHB, to divide and conquer, and we sucommed to their propaganda, but as we fall deeper into economic slavery a lot of folks are beginning to wake up. There are two things that have surprised me over the last 30 years concerning this subject. First-How many people have no clue as to what is going on. Secondly-How many people do know what is going on, but are reluctant to speak up, for fear of being labeled "radical". Another ploy used by the TPTB. Again, I say only the truth can set us free. Are you willing to speak up, or are you just going to accept the current status because "that's just the way it is".
Looking at what is going on all over the world and the power of the net, suggests that the time is right. What say you?



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