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posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 09:43 AM
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i was reading This post and it got me to thinking:


Some websites now, and have in the past, been doing the thing where you can pay for a subscription to their site, and have "ad-free" access.

You can still go there for free, but you gota put up with all the ads.

I wonder if this is possible on ATS?

To be honest, i wouldnt mind paying a nominal fee to get rid of the ads


From my experiences so far - the main reason it takes a little longer than normal to load an ATS page is because of the adserver (though i could be wrong...it just seems to 'freeze' for a few seconds when the status bar says its waiting for a response from adserver)

Just a thought.

Any chance of this happening?




posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 09:45 AM
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That sounds like a good idea. But, the most successful sites out there are free. I think people would just hear subscription and payment and it would turn them away. You know, people just skim over things and this would have to be explained very clearly.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 09:52 AM
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agreed.

But you could make it like follows:

[align=center]
MEMBERSHIP IS

[size=10] FREE

but if you want to avoid the ads, you can pay $9.99 a month [/align]
i think you could still attract lots of people. The only difference is that its commercial free.

I would gladly pay 400 dollars a month for commercial free, cable or satellite television if the choice was available.

Now - not everyone can afford that - i understand - and they can deal with commercials


[edit on 24-6-2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]

[edit on 24-6-2008 by Andrew E. Wiggin]



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:05 AM
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The problem with a membership fee is simple..

The three Amigos would end up spending all their time counting the cash.
It would eat into their leisure time and cause side effects.. like having to buy pants with bigger pockets.

They're already tax-exiles living it up with a yacht-mounted server in the Seychelles..
What would they need the extra hassle for?

*******
DISCLAIMER.. All information above is a load of poo..
*******

Seriously? What ads?
Once you're signed in there's hardly anything..It takes ..like what..a few milliseconds to load the page..

Do a 'spybot' check if you're having REAL problems..
I had one ad that I thought was from here blocking buttons..
but it turned out it was from a 'Debby does... errrr knitting..' site..


[edit on 24-6-2008 by AGENT_T]



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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I have to agree with the OP. It does take longer to load because of the ads, this happens on most of all major sites. Digg, MySpace, Youtube, etc.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:12 AM
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Yeah, i've ran the spyware
nothing

nothing on the virus scanner, nothing pops up on the firewall either


its not a glitch. It could be that comcast is a horrible ISP
though i have the same probelms at my office as well.

Im not saying that its HORRIBLE
im just saying that it does take more time to load - and i would not be opposed to have the option to pay to make it go away



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:23 AM
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Ads don't bother me, I don't even notice them.

Compare it to when you go outside, ads everwhere!

As long as there aren't pop ups it's all good, pop ups are those people who stop you in the street and advertise to you lol.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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but when you're driving down the street - you dont have to brake for every ad you see


im seriously not complaining, im just asking the powers that be if this is a possibility? I'd gladly pay for ad-free access.

Keep the "ad" access 100% the same way it is now

just charge me so i dont have to load and read those damn annoying ads



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:47 AM
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"Header data processed in 0.005 seconds
Page processed in 0.111 seconds"


I'm just not sure what I'd do with those extra miliseconds.. A vacation maybe?

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Hey I'm back.. you gotta check out my tan..



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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ha hah ahha

i love that response

but my end, its not that fast. Im at the office right now, on AT&T DSL
at home i have Comcast cable internet

both places it loads slower, and when i watch the "status bar" it displays "waiting for response: adserver.abovetopsecret.com" or whatever the URL is

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loaded



like i said, not saying its a huge issue
im not saying "give me access to something that free subscribers dont get"

im saying
"make me pay 9.99 a month for commercial free ATS'ing"


And again - just a thought. Not a complaint. I love it here.
I just hate the ads



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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We would gladly create a "pay to avoid the ads" mirror of the site but we know it would lose money for way too long before it ever paid for itself.

We have many years experience with people claiming they want to buy something online and, in the end, less than 2% of those people actually made a purchase.

Our "GEAR STORE" is a perfect example of this. When we first opened it up well over 100 people indicated in the thread they were going to buy a coffee mug or a Teeshirt and we sold less than three items in total.


To set up a mirror of the site that had no ads and required a secure login would cost us thousands of dollars up front and several hundred dollars per month in recurring fees (equipment lease, tech support, etc...). If less than a thousand people signed up and paid the fee we would be in the hole and in bad shape.

At this point in our development we simply can't afford to take the risk without real assurance the money would be there when we launched.

Springer...

[edit on 6-24-2008 by Springer]



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Springer

Our "GEAR STORE" is a perfect example of this. ..


There's a gear store??
Why was I not told of this.. I'd have ATS stuff ALL OVER THE PLACE..



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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that answers my question



TBH...i never noticed there was a ATS store

im gona go buy a coffee cup!!!



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin
 


while I am not against the idea, Springer's response should really be all you need to know why, at this time, it can't happen. Besides, what if you spring for the monthly only to find out that the slow loading is not caused by the ads but, rather, something on your end? Then what will you do?


reply to post by AGENT_T
 


www.cafepress.com...



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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reply to post by Crakeur
 


I can attest to it is the ads. I have done extensive research on this.

Credentials: My Career as a Computer Scientist



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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I would then post an article saying i think the monthly fee's are too high


Just kidding


It very well is a problem on my end. My end is slow at loading the ads.


I mean, the guy above me had time to catch a tan before it loaded



seriously though - i understand now why its not done....i think you may be taking my idea as a critisim, though, Crakeur?

It really wasnt.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

www.cafepress.com...



Oh no.. I've gone and lost my wallet.. no... it's been a hard month..honest.. M.O.T &Tax.. errrrr. do you take 'American Excuse'?


......

Any of those excuses pop up when it opened?


Seriously though.. I've never even noticed the gear tab at the top till I just looked for it now..
any 'Springer' autographed Harley's in there?
I need something to keep the garden gate shut in high winds..


Heading in to see what swag ya got.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin
 


No, it is the ad server. If you were pulling all content off of ATS then you could consider it to be on your end, or an overloaded server on the end of ATS.

But, I count over 4 different places that make up this page alone that I am typing on.

Basically, if all 3 servers load in less than a second and the fourth server is lagging you are going to get lag on your end. I tested this on a dial-up, dsl, cable, T1, and a DS3 connection and get the same result.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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Just bought my tee shirt! Woo!

Im afraid if i buy anything else at this moment, the wife will take my credit card away


well.....why are you still setting there Go buy one!



Seriously though - i never noticed 'gear' at the top before......



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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I remember my first modem..
Happy days..
56k..
You could click on a page and it was ready as soon as you woke up the next morning.

Clicking on naughty sites was a thrill in those days..
Watching those pixels slowly unwrap before your very eyes one line at a time...



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