Congressional Resolution Demands Bush Act on Iran, page 2
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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 08:55 AM by Animal
yes after reading the bill i am convinced that the intention is to take action against iran that DOES NOT include war.


Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress--

(1) declares that preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability, through all appropriate economic, political, and diplomatic means, is vital to the national security interests of the United States and must be dealt with urgently;

(2) urges the President, in the strongest of terms, to immediately use his existing authority to impose sanctions on--

(A) the Central Bank of Iran and any other Iranian bank engaged in proliferation activities or the support of terrorist groups;

(B) international banks which continue to conduct financial transactions with proscribed Iranian banks;

(C) energy companies that have invested $20,000,000 or more in the Iranian petroleum or natural gas sector in any given year since the enactment of the Iran Sanctions Act of 1996; and

(D) all companies which continue to do business with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps;

(3) demands that the President initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program; and

(4) urges the President to lead a sustained, serious, and forceful effort at regional diplomacy to support the legitimate governments in the region against Iranian efforts to destabilize them, to reassure our friends and allies that the United States supports them in their resistance to Iranian efforts at hegemony, and to make clear to the Government of Iran that the United States will protect America's vital national security interests in the Middle East.
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this quote is the entire statement of 'what should be done' please note the lack of any suggestion of war. also note the continued use of political, economic, and diplomatic force to achieve the goal of preventing iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

my opinion is this: these representatives DO NOT want to go down the path of iraq again, especially so close to an election. whats more i doubt they believe the usa could be successful in a military venture against iran. i assume that they are taking this step to show they action other than war can be taken to achieve the desired goals.

[edit on 24-6-2008 by Animal]


reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 11:52 AM by imd12c4funn
taking in the fact that congress is heavily invested with defense contractors and suppliers, i.e. conflicting interests,
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as well as the 4 Billion spent on election campaigns since 2004, Interest Lobbyists (from 16,000 to 34,000), in the 21st Century, , ultimately exploding by 878% from 1996 to 2006, contributing enormously with expectations of gains, earmarks , i.e. (BRIBES), i meant "campaign funds"...etc...
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The representation of Citizens is a non-issue it seems. Who are we to demand our representatives to concern themselves with our expectations? How dare we interfere with agendas that benefit the People rather than the personal greed corrupting most District Reps and Senators, when sucking the war tit of the defense catering preemptive river "WAR" with it's monetary allocations already cresting at flood stage with it's massive current of Federal Reserve Notes filling pockets everywhere other than our citizens and infrastructure. Am I exaggerating?


reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 04:17 PM by Animal
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one thing i would suggest is looking up and joining your local democratic / republican / green / libertarian party. really i would suggest joining democratic / republican as there you will have the most sway. there are surprisingly few people who join and participate in the party and it is a very good way to influence those who represent you. it is also a very good way to get 'direct' contact with them.

i call and write when ever an issue is brought to my attention that i feels like merits a call or letter. happily my representatives do alright in my book, but we are lucky here in northern NM.


reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 05:53 PM by Keyhole
Originally posted by grover
If the Iraq resolution is any indicator bush minor could easily claim that this gives him the authority to attack Iran.



Actually, there is one line in there where they are trying to prevent Bush from getting any ideas along those lines.

The last line in the CONCURRENT RESOLUTION and just above Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress--

H. Con. Res. 362:

Whereas nothing in this resolution shall be construed as an authorization of the use of force against Iran:



This might be there way of trying to tie Bush's warmongering hands.

Originally posted by grover
I read the article but I couldn't find who is authoring this bill.



From the link above.


Bill Status
Introduced: May 22, 2008
Sponsor: Rep. Gary Ackerman [D-NY]
Status: Introduced
Go to Bill Status Page

You are viewing the following version of this bill:

Introduced in House: This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration.



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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 12:12 PM by Animal
reply to post by FewWorldOrder



I think that is pushing it to an extreme, but that is my opinion as this is yours.

Sanctions and restricted movement is a very serious action, one we see breed conflict all over the world. Still it is not necessarily a move towards war, it could, IMO be a move to show very strict and debilitating SANCTIONS. Sanctions imposed to FORCE the kind of response the world is demanding of Iran in a manner that does NOT require war.

It is my opinion that this is the appropriate kind of measures to be taken in such a situation. It is sure a lot more honorable than 'Shock and Awe'.

Though your point that such sanctions could act as a provocation I believe whole heartedly that despite the dangers working to accomplish geo-political objectives should be conducted with War and violence as a last result.


reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 07:15 PM by FewWorldOrder
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I'll give it a try. I stumbled on this awhile back, seems like it's genuine information, as far as I know.

"On October 7, 1940, Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum of the Office of Naval Intelligence submitted a memo to Navy Captains Walter Anderson and Dudley Knox (whose endorsement is included in the following scans). Captains Anderson and Knox were two of President Roosevelt's most trusted military advisors.

The memo, scanned below, detailed an 8 step plan to provoke Japan into attacking the United States. President Roosevelt, over the course of 1941, implemented all 8 of the recommendations contained in the McCollum memo. Following the eighth provocation, Japan attacked. The public was told that it was a complete surprise, an "intelligence failure", and America entered World War Two."


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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 10:00 AM by TheRedneck
reply to post by FewWorldOrder

prohibiting the export to Iran of all petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


We have three things mentioned here that are 'demanded' of the Bushident.

"prohibiting the export to Iran of all petroleum products" - er, I thought Iran exported oil products. Did we swap countries while I was asleep?

"imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran" - Can anyone say 'blockade'? Last time I checked, a blockade was an act of war..

"prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program" - So, we're going to extend the blockade to movement of citizens as well? Sounds to me like this is an open declaration of war, with some fancy wording to make it easier to swallow. Just a spoonful of sugar... makes the medicine go down... the medicine go down, the medicine go down...

TheRedneck


reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 11:04 AM by FewWorldOrder
reply to post by TheRedneck



"prohibiting the export to Iran of all petroleum products" - er, I thought Iran exported oil products. Did we swap countries while I was asleep?


I had thought the same thing, but apparently they do not have sufficient refining capacity to meet their needs. The following info is over a year old, though I think it's still fairly accurate.

At first glance, it might seem that a country with the second-largest gas and oil reserves in the world has nothing to worry about. But as the report notes, 85 percent of Iran's revenue comes from the sale of oil abroad. At the same time, Iran imports most of the refined products it uses, like gasoline. Iran consumes half a million barrels of petroleum products per day, of which 40 percent is imported,...


www.weeklystandard.com...
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