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Mr. Obama’s aides and some allies dispute the characterization that a present vote is tantamount to ducking an issue. They said Mr. Obama cast 4,000 votes in the Illinois Senate and used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy.
An examination of Illinois records shows at least 36 times when Mr. Obama was either the only state senator to vote present or was part of a group of six or fewer to vote that way.
In more than 50 votes, he seemed to be acting in concert with other Democrats as part of a strategy.
To insinuate the ‘present’ vote means you’re indecisive, that you don’t have the courage to hold public office, that’s a stretch. But, it’s good politics,” said state Rep. Bill Black (R), a 22-year veteran of the House and his party’s floor leader.
The “present” vote in Illinois is sometimes cast by state lawmakers with a conflict of interest who would rather not weigh in on an issue. Other times, members use the option to object to certain parts of a bill, even though they may agree with its overall purpose.
“The ‘present’ vote is used, especially by more thoughtful legislators, not as a means of avoiding taking a position on an issue, but as a means of signaling concerns about an issue,” said state Rep. John Fritchey (D), an Obama supporter.
Originally posted by St Udio
many times i 'withhold' my vote because of several different factors...
pretty much like Obamas' votes some 3% of the time
the Yea - or - Nay sometimes does not send the message one wants to express !
Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic
Looks like another "Obama is the devil!" rumor bites the dust!
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
isnt it funny how quiet a thread gets once the case has been proven?
the opposition never comes back to say
"hey - my bad, i was wrong in my assumptions, and you have shown me the way"
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
As regards Senator Obama’s record in the Illinois State Senate, he sponsored 800 bills on Health Care, Poverty, Crime, Civil Rights and more. That’s 100 bills per year that he sponsored. He was HIGHLY active and involved in his 8 years as State Senator.
Originally posted by Hal9000
That is quite impressive, but I would also be interested in hearing if the state taxes had gone up or not due to these bills passing. That might help clear the air about that issue.
Barack does have a lot of programs planned that will cost a lot of money, and many people fear that our taxes will go up. I personally would like to see his Universal Health Care plan passed, but I don't know about some of the others. I think ending the war in Iraq and bringing our troops home will save us billions, and I would like to see the next administration get back to being fiscally responsible.
Someone actually gave a real reason why they wont vote for Obama. Why it affects them personally
Where are all the people who are using this as one of their reasons NOT to vote for Obama? Are they going to vote for him now? Or continue to believe (and spread) the rumor that there's something "WRONG" with voting present?