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EU states back new sanctions on Iran

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posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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EU states back new sanctions on Iran


www.reuters.com

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - European Union states agreed on Monday to impose new sanctions against Iran, including an asset freeze on its biggest bank, over its refusal to meet demands to curb its nuclear program.
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posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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Is this is just another example of the US having it's way with the world?

Now Europe's most out spoken critics of the US cannot say the US is the only one following it's own agenda in the middle east.

Now that the EU is moving as one, France and other critics of US's foreign policy can no longer point a finger at the US when they themselves are involving themselves into a sovereign nations internal affairs.

Or is this an example of the NWO or has the US influenced the EU?

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 23-6-2008 by SLAYER69]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:54 AM
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I sense a lot of Anti America in those comments

The EU acts on its own... They make a lot of the decisions that the U.S. disagrees with. For them to take thist stance they know something is going to happen from Iran. Immediately after The news about the jet practices from israel Russia Voiced their oppinion. The ties are becoming clear. I hope you dont live in Iran or Russia bud, terrorism is no longer cast aside in this world.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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I agree with you, nope I'm Red Blooded, Mom's Apple Pie USA born.

My spin on this is now that the EU is acting on it's own, they can no longer point their old world finger at the US and say that we are the only ones moving with our own agenda when now they themselves are doing that very same thing.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by rjmelter
 


I agree with you, nope I'm Red Blooded, Mom's Apple Pie USA born.

My spin on this is now that the EU is acting on it's own, they can no longer point their old world finger at the US and say that we are the only ones moving with our own agenda when now they themselves are doing that very same thing.


The only time I think a government should step in is in situations like these... when Iran has asked for israel to be wiped off the map and refuses to stop seeking nuclear capabilities. Ok... Yeah. I dont see why anyone supports Irans Nuclear Ambitions because he has pre-stated his plan... as ignorant as he is.

The EU is acting on its own. The U.S. Calls shots a bit early but normally they are right. The whole war on terror spin...I think It was done within reason. I dont however understand why Osama is still alive unless the U.S. wanted him to suffer from kidney dialysis very slow and painfully... The lack of love that man has sends chills to my bones. The EU was wise to make this decision... but it makes the rest of the world look bad to those paranoid, anti change countrys of the world.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:38 AM
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sounds like typical anti US tripe.


If the US says it will militarily go in and stop Irans nuclear bomb making, then the US is evil military empire.

If the US uses sanction's to stop Iran's nuclear bomb making, then that is bad too...


Now, the EU has realized a nuclear armed Iran is world threatening and are taking action.

Now will anyone say that the EU empire is now an evil empire forcing it's will on others???


Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the EU's action on this issue, I just hope they recieve the exact same reaction that the US does, as it is doing the exact same thing.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:38 AM
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Or has this been in the works for awhile an example of the NWO?




Then on April 30, 2007 there was yet another meeting, mentioned in the alternative media but blacked-out in the mass media. This meeting was entitled: Framework for Advancing Transatlantic Economic Integration Between the United States of America and the European Union


SOURCE




EU foreign ministers have agreed to implement sanctions against Iran after its refusal to halt uranium enrichment.


SOURCE




Washington has pressed the EU to deny some Iranian banks access to the world financial system. European External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner said further EU steps could entail a freeze on Iranian bank assets.


SOURCE


This makes me wonder just who is calling the shots?
The US or are we seeing the results of the NWO coming together?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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Who owns the biggest bank in iran. Apparently not the iranians if there assets were frozen in there biggest bank. Another step to war with iran.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 01:34 PM
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Just a quick note regarding 'wiping isreal of the map' - it is widely recognised this is a misrepresenation of what was said.




The devil is in the detail, wiping Israel off the map suggests a physical genocidal assault, a literal population relocation or elimination akin to what the Nazis did. According to numerous different translations, Ahmadinejad never used the word "map," instead his statement was in the context of time and applied to the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall, not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population.

www.prisonplanet.com...






Shiraz Dossa, a professor of Political Science at St. Francis University in Nova Scotia, Canada defended Ahmadinejad. Dossa wrote in June of 2007 that:

"Ahmadinejad has not denied the Holocaust or proposed Israel’s liquidation; he has never done so in any of his speeches on the subject (all delivered in Persian language). As an Iran specialist, I can attest that both accusations are false... Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that “the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time.” No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation—“wipe Israel off the map”—suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can “wipe out” U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous."

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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That could be true... I think however it is time for the world to ditch nuclear and go solar... any refusal to do so would state their intentions.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
Now Europe's most out spoken critics of the US cannot say the US is the only one following it's own agenda in the middle east.


While France has been critical of US' policies in the past please note that France's President Sarkozy is nicknamed the American as he's probably the most pro-American EU leader at the moment.


It's important to keep in mind that out of all the candidates, Sarkozy is the most pro-American of the field. He has been scornfully nicknamed "the American" or, even worse, "the neocon"--now a common epithet among the French. (source)


Also, you have to consider the possibility that these new sanctions the EU approved, were approved because they have a legitimate reason to be.



Originally posted by rjmelter
The EU is acting on its own.

Yes, the EU is acting on it's own, however when the EU acts on it's own and it goes against US' policies, some Americans no longer see EU actions as 'independent' as much as 'terrorist appeasers'.



The U.S. Calls shots a bit early but normally they are right.

You mean like Iraq? The US wasn't right and EU had different thoughts about the intervention in Iraq, and I refer you my previous answer as to what happened with those differences of opinion and actions.



The whole war on terror spin...I think It was done within reason.

So, lying to the people is acceptable, in your opinion, because it was done for the good of everyone and was done within reason.

I'm sorry but I find that ridiculous. This Administration and everyone involved in pushing for the Invasion of Iraq lied and mislead the public. There is no within reason for lying to the public.

If you have nobles goals you don't have to lie to the people to achieve them. If you think you do, perhaps you shouldn't be serving in public offices.



I dont however understand why Osama is still alive unless the U.S. wanted him to suffer from kidney dialysis very slow and painfully...

The US didn't catch Osama because they never intended to. This way the so called spin on the War on Terror you spoke about, can continue for much longer time. But from your perspective, within reason, it's not a bad thing.



Originally posted by Peepers
Who owns the biggest bank in iran. Apparently not the iranians if there assets were frozen in there biggest bank. Another step to war with iran.



June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The European Union stiffened its sanctions against Iran's nuclear program, shutting down the EU offices of Bank Melli Iran and denying travel visas to more Iranian officials. (source)



Bank Melli Iran (BMI), also called the National Bank of Iran, is the first national Iranian bank. The bank was established in 1927 by the order of Majlis (the Iranian Parliament) and since then has constantly acted as one of the most influential Iranian banks. (source)



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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Is this is just another example of the US having it's way with the world?


No, it's another example of the EU doing the right thing. We offered Iran a light water reactor to help meet their electricity demands.. They turned it down because they want to be a regional superpower too. Do you really think religious fundamentalism mixes well with nukes?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 03:46 PM
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For those who are bringing up the same threads that were made last summer and even as far back as 2004 (i.e "War with Iran is about to happen"); You are way off the mark.

The EU has held deep neogations with Iran, even offering them an economic package and civil nuclear energy too (which Iran said no to, even though their program is apparently "civilian"). At first, the United States did not even approve but came to the conclusion it was a wise move. Europe has acted independently of the United States when dealing with Iran. EU is Iran's biggest trading partner, so Europeans have much more influence than America in the Iranian Republic.

If you understand European foreign policy well; then you'll notice Zimbabwe, Kosovo and Venezuela are the main focus of the European Union regarding foreign affairs. It is bizarre and paranoid thinking if you believe the United States has the European Union "under the thumb" and Iran is the only element of European foreign policy
There is more chance of war with Venezuela than Iran.

I can bet you, this time next year, the same thread is being made about "the war with Iran is coming."



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
For those who are bringing up the same threads that were made last summer and even as far back as 2004 (i.e "War with Iran is about to happen"); You are way off the mark.

The EU has held deep neogations with Iran, even offering them an economic package and civil nuclear energy too (which Iran said no to, even though their program is apparently "civilian"). At first, the United States did not even approve but came to the conclusion it was a wise move. Europe has acted independently of the United States when dealing with Iran. EU is Iran's biggest trading partner, so Europeans have much more influence than America in the Iranian Republic.

If you understand European foreign policy well; then you'll notice Zimbabwe, Kosovo and Venezuela are the main focus of the European Union regarding foreign affairs. It is bizarre and paranoid thinking if you believe the United States has the European Union "under the thumb" and Iran is the only element of European foreign policy
There is more chance of war with Venezuela than Iran.

I can bet you, this time next year, the same thread is being made about "the war with Iran is coming."


I dunno about that. At this time last summer was Isreal performing pre-stage bombing excercises intended for Iran's nuclear facilities? At this time last year was Iran just three months away from completing some of their uranium enrichment?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
At this time last summer was Isreal performing pre-stage bombing excercises intended for Iran's nuclear facilities? At this time last year was Iran just three months away from completing some of their uranium enrichment?


Iran completed some enrichment a while back, that ended up with a new round of sanctions. And, Israel is always performing excercises which everyone thinks involves plans to bomb Iran.

[edit on 23-6-2008 by infinite]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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I just don't understand how some people can say when the USoA does something it's wrong or evil and then turn around and say when the Erupoean Union does something along the same lines it's ok
Give me a break ]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:57 PM
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It made me think of when the US froze assets belonging to Iraq and Kuwait on 3rd of august 1990, the day after Iraq invaded Kuwait. Ofcourse Iraq did not have much being broke after fighting Iran and owed Kuwait a lot because Kuwait funded Iraq for fighting Iran. And ofcourse assets of Taliban and terrrorists frozen.

en.wikipedia.org...
query.nytimes.com...
www.guardian.co.uk...


Iranian weekly Shahrvand-e Emrooz reported this month that Iran had withdrawn $75 billion from Europe to prevent the assets from being blocked, but Samsami played down such reports and insisted the situation was "as yet not serious."

source

I'm not good at economics but what does that mean? Do they get $75 billion in gold? What are they going to buy with it and how can they pay, give an I owe U and direct whomever they bought from to the EU?


sty

posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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1) Iran withdraws 80 billions from EU, days before the sanctions
2) Israel showing off , simulating attacks on Iran
3)Saudi Arabia increases petrol output, however the price for petrol is still increasing

Am I missing something?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
I can bet you, this time next year, the same thread is being made about "the war with Iran is coming."


This was not a " Thread about war with Iran "


I was asking originally about the fact that the EU is now acting in it's own interests




Earlier this month, US President George W. Bush brought up the issues of sanctions against Iran during the EU-US summit in Brdo, Slovenia, as the US had been eagerly awaiting stricter action from the 27-member bloc.


SOURCE


[edit on 23-6-2008 by SLAYER69]



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by sty
1) Iran withdraws 80 billions from EU, days before the sanctions
2) Israel showing off , simulating attacks on Iran
3)Saudi Arabia increases petrol output, however the price for petrol is still increasing

Am I missing something?


4) Price of iron ore to Chinese steel works also increases 80% today!!!!

Something is obviously in the pipeline, the new EU is rotten at the core run by the same corporate interests that runs the US - No offense meant!

I cant understand france though - they have a muslim population of around 15% and are the main instigators of this in Europe. The French president was on the news last night saying that France (and therefore the EU) was giving its full backing to Israel on this matter - even though the tension is and has always been fueled by Israeli actions.

I suppose we had to pick a side at some stage....



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