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I have a bad case of add, and I'm trying real hard to understand your theories along with the Terra papers. Trying not to let my add get in the way of my understanding.
Originally posted by virraszto
I don't know why it won't let me edit my post, but the two sentences I was referring to are:
You should knead clay from the top of the abzu; the birth-goddesses (?) will nip off the clay and you shall bring the form into existence.
Ninmah took clay from the top of the abzu in her hand and she fashioned from it first a man who could not bend his outstretched weak hands.
After Enki had spoken thus to him, Isimud the minister followed his master's instructions closely. He let the maiden into the abzu and Eridug. He let Inana into the abzu and Eridug. When the maiden had entered the abzu and Eridug, when Inana had entered the abzu and Eridug, she got butter cake to eat.
I also noticed that the word abzu is used in lowercase, and upper case. Different meanings?
Originally posted by undo
Well i think it was you who said the ancient texts were pretty much worthless.
So I'm thinking you may have to take your own advice about not throwing away data. You admit you haven't read but a chapter or 2 of the Epic of Gilgamesh but were pretty sure I didn't know what I was talking about as far as EA is concerned and/or was basing it solely on christian texts.
Nope. I studied everything i could get my hands on. Not just christian texts. I'd tell you if I thought they'd been tampered with but I don't see it. I also don't know why so many people are afraid of the biblical texts, often tossing out the history they contain without having actually read it and learned it for themselves.
For example, what lead me to study the ancient texts of sumer was an odd chapter in Revelation (the last book in the bible). In chapter 9 it describes what it calls the bottomless pit. It describes a star falling to earth with a key to the bottomless pit, which it then opens. a falling star in revelation is revealed in the same text to be interpreted as a fallen angel, not an actual star but a masculine entity who has a key that he's going to use to open the bottomless pit. The more I thought about it, the more I realized it was a literal event and that meant a literal location -- area of Euphrates on this planet (I think, unless it's a reference to the Euphrates of an offplanet Eden --wherever that is).
So off I went to the ancient texts of the area to see if I could find its equivalent and I think I did. It really looks as if the Abzu is the Bottomless Pit. The Nun. The Abyss. The Void. The 7 Birth Goddesses of Enki and Ninmah (one of which is Hathor and another which is Sekhmet)
If you read the Enki and Ninmah story at the link I provided you, it explains that Enki commands Ninmah to recite.. something about the way it is written makes me think Ninmah was the device that operated the gate system. In the story she is the midwife of the 7 Birth Goddesses but there's something odd about it that just ...i dunno how to put it, but it seems as if there's alot mroe going on than the translators knew what to do with. Like Enki pinching CLAY off the TOP of the Abzu (bringing humans here threw the gate), there's always that underlying interpretation. I could be wrong, but wow....This is just a tiny fraction of the data i found.
Originally posted by Pellevoisin
All of you who are interested in the Sumerian cuneiform texts may find Christian O'Brien and Barbara Joy O'Brien's translation work very edifying. The book "The Genius of the Few" by Christian O'Brien is an excellent place to start with a secular reconstruction of the clay tablet data.
Originally posted by nexusmagazine
He was referring to the emergence of the Cooper, Lear, Lazar, and Sitchin information, which he considered to all contain pieces of true information, but which he was sworn to secrecy about.
He then absorbed heaps of copies of Nexus, read Bruce Cathie books, Sitchin, all the Lear, Lazar, William Cooper stuff, Matrix I and II - and started doing talks and workshops wherever invited. Great presenter, very charismatic and energetic and informed speaker - very popular with the ladies too!
He told me, over several meetings around 1991-3, that he/his grandfather etc, had sheltered some blue alien/ET from the govt, and from other ETs for some time. This ET had imparted information and knowledge, which Robert said he was sworn not to reveal, until the 'right' time. He emphasised, that a lot of this information about Earth, its history, and its relationship to ETs, was contained in parts, scattered over a lot of the stuff he read put out by Lear, Cooper, Lazar, Bruce Cathie and Sitchin.
He felt strongly that he should now be allowed, by his tribe, to reveal all their knowledge from the blue ET that they had sheltered. I understood that upon his return to the USA from his first Aussie trip, he sought this permission from his tribe - but that it wasn't forthcoming due to 'politics'.
Anyway, he came back to Australia and did larger scale talks and presentations, on pretty much what is now in the Terra Papers. He told me, that to avoid technically breaking his vow of silence during these presentations, he would select the bits from Lear, Cooper, Lazar, Bruce Cathie and Sitchin etc, that 'matched' what the blue ET had told him and his people, and stitch them together for his talk/workshop. Which is what he did, plus he added questions that he thought people should be asking.
After he was recalled from his Aussie lecture tour by his wife, and given the "behave or else" lecture, he went quiet for several years. With the advent of the internet, he reemerged and has basically carried on where he left off, and it seems the whole package is now in "The Terra Papers".
Originally posted by homo_borg
Um, if he was sworn to secrecy, then why did he submit it as a paper/thesis to his university? And after it was rejected by the uni, why did he present it to a UFO group? After all, it was supposed to be a secret, wasn't it?
Originally posted by undo
... In 2001, a project to geophysically explore the corridor was approved by the Supreme Council of Antiquities. No results have yet been published.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Amaterasu
so what do you make of the hopi sipapu being a portal to this place from somewhere else?
add to my links above
a virtual kiva