Terra Papers - I was there

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posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 09:57 AM
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I have looked at some of the Terra Paper comments and speculations and would like to offer that I studied with Robert Morning Sky from 1997 to 1999 in Arizona and can explain many questions, like the style of book. Robert did all his own art work and printing and made those himself to sell to people who may be keen to learn the hidden history.

He has workshop videos that will answer many questions, however at this time I am the only person I know of in possession of them.

What I can offer is that Robert wrote the Terra Papers long before he had heard of Sitchen or became familiar with his work. He is a genuine Hopi and Apache Native who grew up in the desert who also professionaly does native dance and is a master carver of Kat'sina Dolls and takes great lengths to validate and document all his work. The Terra Papers is a story based on teachings. Robert's other works are history with references so people can make their own decisions. He has said many times, don't believe a word he says - go and find out for yourself.

I have done forty years of research and his work is one of the worthiest I have come across because it explains the real source of our existance and creator gods in ways we can understand.

I did field research with Robert and others into the canyonlands and looked at things not created by wind and rain and saw things and experienced things in regions where apaches today still keep watch in the skies. Has anyone checked statistics on missing children in the USA alone? What's that got to do with anything? Everything. I have read the Terra Papers a dozen times and still find new clues because it carries a lot of ramifications in its implications.

Why did they create beasts to do labor when they had technology? Perhaps because Earth was a tattered Tiamat with unwieldy energy grid lines that needed grounding.... pyramids.... Perhaps because they were terra forming the entire planet and beasts were only one of many. There are answers for all questions which I usually find only lead to more questions.

Enki/Ea is the one to whom we should be grateful for our existance and freedom, albeit tenuous. For true seekers, Robert's work is worthy of a second and even third look. Regards - Karyn.




posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:02 AM
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Pretty strong words coming right out of the gate. First off I say welcome to ATS, we are all a little wiley.

Second, I have never heard of these "Terra Papers" you speak of, you might elaborating a little on that?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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You claim to have the workshop videos....you going to make them available to prove your claim?

I for one would be interested.

BTW Welcome to ATS.

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posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:12 AM
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Hi, lol - how should I prove it? They are on VHS and can take a photograph of the screen and videos I guess - they are 12 hours of Robert teaching the entire terra papers. I also have all his work - the Smoke Signals series, his Guardians of the Grail book (The World's Oldest Religion), the Warrior Papers, all these are substantially referenced... I am happy to prove it - will just take a little time.

I will not be spending much time in this website - and invite anyone interested to email me direction at ad_vantage@shaw.ca .



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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You were there? That's a claim that really does require some form of verification.

If you were there, it would be helpful if you posted your own field research to bring some legitimacy to your claims. What you've told us thus far is generic at best.

Concerning missing children, I have to disagree with your hypothesis. There is a more realistic (down to earth) answer as to why so many children disappear. I would like to suggest that very sick & dangerous individuals combined with child porn rings are closer to the mark.

IRM



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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aren't the guardians of the grail that group that just popped up in the news because the mother was torturing their to kids, they even skinned him partly while he was alive, and the family ate his flesh or something

not trying to be gross or anything, if you haven't heard about it you don't check the news very often.

either way. i don't want to have anything to do with it if it is THAT group of people.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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Here is a link to the original posting about the Terra Papers.

ats - Terra Papers

Fascinating reading I might add.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:35 AM
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I was there, with Robert and his family and other hardcore researchers for two years at a time when he was doing his public presentations, radio and tv interviews and writing.

When I spoke of the Guardians of the Grail, I am talking about the Knights Templar and what the Holy Grail was and where it is today. His work is about history, documented history and not cults or sensationalized news.

I am happy to meet others who are at least open minded enough to look at this stuff - and after many years have decided to put his work out there for a few reasons. I hope to start presentations locally (I'm in BC Canada) and make his work available in all forms (written and DVD) in the near future.

The VHS workshop tapes I have are being converted into DVD's - slowly but surely.

I have nothing to prove to anyone - only offering a source of information not readily available anywhere else. :-) Karyn.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:42 AM
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Welcome to ATS Karyn, wonderful to speak with someone who has experienced the Terra papers first hand.

I will re-read the papers to refresh my memory on details, I have a horrid memory, sorry.

I was so encompassed by them the first time I read them that I copied them to my PC.

Again, thank you for coming forward and making yourself available to us.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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PS - As I do not have a current address for Robert, I cannot encourage anyone downloading the Terra Papers online to make a contribution directly to him as the book is copywritten and how he supported his family for many years. I would wish those who are fortunate to have a copy in their possession to be grateful to Robert for taking the time to put the story not just in print, but to also make available to us (the white folk) what has always been known to them, the natives and to take to heart that this is their version of the creation 'myth' that parallels every other one from ancient civilizations and to pass the teachings on.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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One more thing - I do have photographs of my trips to the canyonlands and some of the anomalies that I will make available when I next come across them (I have moved too many times and all things are shuffled). Most of my field research is in the form of my experiences which are many over the two years spent in Phoenix. I have been fortunate to have met many researchers and authors over the years and still find Roberts work to be of the top few ever - Colin Andrews work is another person I highly regard to this day. What I'm going to do with all this is just forming - I came across this website a few times and is the only one actively talking about the terra papers - which is why I joined this day :-)

Kindest regards to everyone - Karyn.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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kshaundell, welcome to ATS!

I was reading a book called "Cloak of the Illuminati" by William Henry. His main focus is on The Tennessee National Mall's design and it's similarity to other meta-physical teachings and techniques throughout history.
I had a very hard time reading it until the Terra Papers were published online and brought here to ATS. I spent a good day and a half reading and skimming through the Papers and, I'll tell ya what, it put a lot of Mr. Henry's work into focus. I better understood the complexity of both the Terra Papers and Cloak of the Illuminati.
I also see a lot of similar ideas in The Mars Record. I suggest reading it (a link to the actual Mars Record is at the ATS Thread I linked to). If you already have, I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on the subject.
As for proof of who you are and whether or not you did what you say you did? I don't need proof of background to have a conversation about any subject on a forum, man. Don't sweat it on my account. Just tell your story.

Cuhail



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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Im glad this has been brought to light again.....i think that freedom domain was down for a while...will start having a read now and see if I can comment....



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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kshaundell, welcome to ATS!

I too am very happy that you joined ATS. I am very interested in your recollections of working with Mr. Morning Sky, and your insights of the Terra Papers. It would be wonderful to have more of his works to read, watch and study.

As you said above, it would be nice to have a way to make donations to Mr. Morning Sky in appreciation of his teachings.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Welcome to ATS!! I also live in BC and would love to somehow see these video's you talk about. Any chance of that?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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Could you post several segments up on youtube. Is there anyway of tracking down morning star. I see he was in australia for awhile.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:23 PM
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I have some material you may find interesting concerning Robert. I have sent you a U2U (personal message). If you don't know how to access your U2U's, scroll back to the top of the page to the main links menu. You will find a red button that says "U2U", Click that and it will automatically open your message box.

If you wish to reply to me, there is a little button at the bottom of the message that says "reply". Click on that and let me know what you think - and if your interested.


.. and Welcome to ATS!

IRM


Edit To Add:

I was just informed by a helpful member that you can't U2U until you have enough ATS points. Completely forgot about that. Bummer!

What I have (if anyone is interested) is Roberts first ever public talk on Aliens, Trilats, Growing up on reservation land with 'star people' or 'blues' amongst a myriad of other related topics. It's both fascinating and terrifying.

I have already posted it a while back on certain share networks. There are no copyrights so it's completely legal. If anyone wants the address, just U2U me and I'll provide you with it.

If your into RMS, then you really should have this!

IRM

[edit on 23/6/08 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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The Terra papers sound a lot like Zecharia Sitchin's books and his theories of the ancient Summerians. These theories all came out in the 1970s, the same time Erich Von Danikan wrote his books. I am skeptical (a lot because of Von Danikan's proven false hoods) of them all, but they are good reads.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:51 PM
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If you can get ahold of a DVD recorder FROM VHS you can convert them all over digitally.

sorry, I ment, a DVD/VHS recorder combo which will record VHS -->DVD

[edit on 04/02/2008 by Komodo]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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i have read the Terra papers and have copies on my HD.
i have also recently purchased a book called "old world secrets, the omega project codes" and in reading this, it is the only other reference i have found which seems to talk about the same "gods" and history.

my question is are you familiar with this book? and if so waht do you think about it coinciding with the Terra Papers?

also i am very interested in the other workings of Robert. and any other information you would have to obtain these workings would be greatly appreciated.


here is a link to a thread about the book:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'






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