McCain's Answer for Poverty? eBay!, page 3

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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 09:41 PM by grover

my that's a broad sweeping generalization.

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 09:43 PM by A curious cat

reply to post by winged patriot

Have you got any idea what it's like to be really poor?

Have you experience of selling on ebay? If you do then you know they charge for selling and if you have low value items you are just as likely to lose money on the deal.

What happens when there's nothing left to sell? I am really interested in your answer.

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 09:47 PM by winged patriot

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Its not my problem, they should get a job and if that is not enough get two... Ebay is a good way to make money... And no I'm not poor I went to school and I WORK.
You Liberals are all the same...

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 09:50 PM by grover

Such true compassion. That's what I love about you conservatives. I'll pray you never find yourself down and out and in need of help.

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 09:53 PM by winged patriot

Originally posted by grover
Such true compassion. That's what I love about you conservatives. I'll pray you never find yourself down and out and in need of help.

Hey I won't let you die in the street, but once your out of the road its up to you... because I'm not paying for it.

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 10:17 PM by A curious cat

Originally posted by winged patriot
reply to post by A curious cat

Its not my problem, they should get a job and if that is not enough get two... Ebay is a good way to make money... And no I'm not poor I went to school and I WORK.
You Liberals are all the same...

Why am I not surprised at that answer

There really is no point trying to make you see sense.

All I can say is I'm glad there are plenty of people in the world that do not think as you do. The human race cannot survive without compassion and we will survive, despite you and your like minded politicians.

reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 10:24 PM by winged patriot

You and your people will keep going until- men who love men can get married to other men. You'll also force me to pay for some lazy south of the borderer's three year olds health insurance. You are dangerous, you don't think, you should read the bible!!!

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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 02:56 AM by Rasobasi420

Originally posted by winged patriot

Whats wrong with this??? If you've got extra stuff then you should sell it, if your that hungry you would!!!

Unless you have nothing to sell.

MCcain is a true patriot like myself,

Yep, the kind who earned the nickname 'songbird' for squealing to the Viet Kong while in his POW camp.

We shouldn't depend on the government for everything- Free Market people - You can make a pretty penny selling all kinds of stuff on ebay - forks,dvds and couches...Us your imagination people- this is a real solution to a real problem--

This is not a real solution. Thinking it is just shows how short sighted you are with regards to economics. More and more of the poor these days were once middle class. Do you think they 'all of a sudden' became lazy?

all Obama wants to do is raise taxes! I mean Clinton should have killed Osama when he had the chance, which he did.

Keep our taxes low !!!

Non sequitur.

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 04:28 AM by onlyhurtsu

How does one support a govt that got him tortured in a war. He mustve got whacked out from brain trauma. Youd think u'd learn your lesson. He probably wants to inflict pain for what he received.

Obama wants to raise taxes alot for the top 5% or whatever. So none of us should care. Sure ours might go up a bit, but its worth it to see the rich whine.

Republicans dont tax more they just put it on the US credit card that will destroy the economy after they are dead cuz theyre dinosaurs.

Do u think ATS has woken up any republicans? I know democrat isnt the answer, but republican is like a faster suicide.

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 05:00 AM by dawnstar

Originally posted by winged patriot
You and your people will keep going until- men who love men can get married to other men. You'll also force me to pay for some lazy south of the borderer's three year olds health insurance. You are dangerous, you don't think, you should read the bible!!!

why??
jesus instructs that if a man asks for your coat, give him your cloak also...or something to that extent....

and, I don't see the gay community as either a positive, or a negative impact on the society, it's more like a nutural. they can't have kids, which marriage was originally set up to help solve some of the social problems that children bring into it. I'd say the heterosexuals are causing many more problems than the gays are.
as far as forcing you to pay for someone's elses health insurance....well....
it seems like taboo to suggest that the companies should be paying their employees more, and it seems like taboo for the US consumer to have any power to bring down the costs of healthcare in any way (buying canadian drugs comes to mind)....
preaching personal responsibility while taking away the people's ability of being personally responsible doesn't make much sense either!
if a company needs a living breathing person to work for their company, then, dang it, they should be paying a wage that will keep that person living and breathing, unless of course, they can function using just students, and, that if they want someone with 5-10 years experience, it seems only reasonable to me to assume that these people have families, kids, the pay should be high enough to support them.
if the business sector can't afford to do this, maybe they should be actively working to reduces the costs of the necessities, like gas, housing, instead of speculating and coming up with all these neat little schemes that drive the costs up, and put money in their pockets.

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:46 AM by son of PC

I don't think ebay is going to make any great amount of people become "unpoor". This being said, I have bought a lot of stuff on ebay. Computer parts, electronic stuff, pc games. It's really expensive to drive around anymore to do comparison shopping.
McCain is an alright guy I think. I won't be voting for him or Obama either though. I quit, you all can have my vote.

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 06:52 AM by marg6043

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This guy probably have some investments in E-bay to be promoting like that.

Still back in the days when I was a young wife in the military, Family services use to encourage under pay enlisted families at the time telling them to take advantage of yard sales and second hand stores

Sounds familiar to me.

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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 08:58 AM by Rasobasi420

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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 11:52 AM by cavscout

Originally posted by onlyhurtsu
Obama wants to raise taxes alot for the top 5% or whatever. So none of us should care. Sure ours might go up a bit, but its worth it to see the rich whine.

You don’t seem to understand how things work.

The producers of society do not take a tax hike and "whine," they raise prices and cut services! Ask yourself what that does for the dollar.

Do you think any board chair wants to explain to shareholders a drop in profit margin? Did the oil companies "whine" when oil started to bubble? No, they RAISED PRICES and passed the champagne! We Lost, they won.

And now you want to raise taxes and the cost of goods and services? Why do you hate the poor?

This is why we are in the problem we are in economically; people give these knee jerk reactions without considering the consequences.

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reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 01:42 PM by desert

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Grover, back a few years, I had the pleasure of knowing some good people, with whom I would have interesting/heated discussions of Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, the horrors of Communism and liberals, etc.
One relied on government disability due to mental illness, yet publicly rallied against the evils of "socialistic" government assistance.
Another one was self-employed, raging against liberals and handouts, etc., yet having no problem of government programs, when he found his family needing medical help.

The first family had nothing to sell!! Criminy, they had to get handouts from churches to keep their children fed and clothed, their subsidized housing to have beds/furniture. Books to read...they went to the public library, thus having no books to sell. They had no computer; they had trouble paying their phone bill, let alone utilities! They had nothing to sell! And no means to sell!

The other family, if they hadn't asked for medical help, would have lost their tiny fixer-upper! Trust me, that house was really a shack, which the dad would work on when they had the money. Mom made jams (on the stove in the "kitchen", which was really a part of the living room) to sell, but had to give that up, as it didn't bring in the money, considering the cost of supplies and fuel to get the berries and cook the jam).

Damn, now if McCain had said, for example, let's make small (micro) business loans available to people to start a business (like the jam), I would have said, great. But then, those kind of loans are what is helping poor people in poor countries, and after all is not needed in this wealthy nation

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 03:46 PM by grover

Originally posted by desert
reply to post by grover

Grover, back a few years, I had the pleasure of knowing some good people, with whom I would have interesting/heated discussions of Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, the horrors of Communism and liberals, etc.
One relied on government disability due to mental illness, yet publicly rallied against the evils of "socialistic" government assistance.
Another one was self-employed, raging against liberals and handouts, etc., yet having no problem of government programs, when he found his family needing medical help.

Yeah I have known people like that... hated liberals and democrats but had no problem taking advantage of the very programs they railed against.

I tried to point the hyprocricy of it to one of them once and they damned near bit my head off.

But these weren't poor people, they had six figure incomes.

reply posted on 24-6-2008 @ 04:10 PM by geocom

Ebay is a great way to earn money it is very true that where some see junk others see dollars I prefer to be one of the latter. I came from a very poor family in a very poor neighborhood were talking church donations and stuff so we could eat.. I got a job and stayed poor and whined about how terrible the system was and how it was meant to keep people down and so on and so forth
(insert yawn here)

Though I had been told many times if you don't like your situation change it I never did until one last person told me the same thing I had heard a thousand times... if you don't like your life change it.. (1001 was the magic number)

Most people sit around trying to figure out how come they can't go make a better life (yep I did this too)vs getting off the couch and doing something about it.. I truly believe that anyone can change their life for the better use the system as long as you need to but once you are on your own two feet you won't want to go back to the system it takes time and lots and lots of hard work long hours away from home or at the office most people don't want to or just don't have the self discipline to do this but this is how and why people get rich hard work

you can call me what you want (seems to be the new theme here on ATS) you can degrade me whatever it takes for you to try and make my point seem mute, all the while I will be sitting here in my house that is paid for..

And all this from some kid who grew up poor poor poor...

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reply posted on 3-7-2008 @ 08:00 AM by pjsconcrete

I've got a great idea for the McCain economic advisors!! They sould have him tell the American people to have more garage sales! That way they can take all their junk and make money and invest it in the stock market in whatever stocks he tells them to invest in!!(heavy sarcasm)

I buy and sell occasionally on Ebay (my old video games I don't play anymore, DVD's I never watch, other crap that I'll never use again), but this is no answer to our economic woes.

I am once again taken aback by the way that the radical right attacks people with racial slurs, hate of people different from them,ect.... Until I started posting on ATS I didn't think that people really thought like that. I'm a proud liberal independant and think that all this partisan bickering is part of what's destroying our great nation. Democrats, Republicans are different sides of the same coin, and have sooooo many people fooled.

Nothing will get done in this country as long as people continue to hate each other and don't listen to other viewpoints.

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