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Originally posted by WickedStar
[...] I also wanted to add that heterosexuals are often prone to jump to the conclusion (as we have witnessed here) that because two homosexuals can not reproduce we are therefore unnatural. However, if reproduction was the sole issue here then humans would have absolutely no need for the "pleasurable orgasm." Our mating would be driven by instinct alone without the need of pleasure - as is witnessed in non-mammalian animals.
Science has proven that mammalian females do experience uterine and vaginal contractions considered analogous to the female pleasure response; however, we can never be certain of the extent to which female mammals "enjoy" intercourse. If the ruckus from my outdoor cat "gigi" is any indication - my bet is that she doesn't enjoy herself at all.
More to the point - we know that male mammals, such as dolphins and a few other species of monkeys do seem to enjoy the act of ejaculation as they have been spotted - in the wild - engaging in non-reproductive ejaculatory behavior.
Where am I going you ask? Well, to assume that homosexual sex is in some way unnatural is to suggest that the "receiver" is incapable of experiencing pleasure from the experience. If it wasn't enjoyable, receivers or "bottoms" would not engage in the act. However, we know that countless homosexual men do engage and do so willingly - why? Male sexual physiology is not solely limited to the brain, testes and phallus - there is another organ called the Prostate which when stimulated properly will deliver an orgasm likened to the "tidal wave" multiple orgasm described by countless women. The Prostate is the Male G-Spot. Furthermore, studies have shown that men who engage in prostate massage to facilitate a prostate orgasm suffer from less prostate disorders including cancer, inflammation and BPH. And before you ask - the only way to facilitate a prostate orgasm is through the anus (which when stimulated is also capable of delivering plenty of pleasure.)
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Ok, please listen up.
For all the people who are posting saying that homosexuality is a "choice":
You are on the wrong thread!
This thread is for people who know or believe that their sexual orientation is no more of their choosing than what color eyes they have. And who are looking for scientific data and an intelligent debate.
So if you are a gay basher or just plain disagree with the above premise, please start you own thread and hate away.
Consequently, unprotected anal sex in MSW ensued, as “people do not even know that anal sex can transmit HIV.
Anal sex is more damaging than vaginal sex,” Rinyiru explained. Njoroge explained, “Water-based lubricants are not readily available, as they are too expensive.
Vaseline or lotions are being used, which can lead to tearing of a condom and consequently a higher HIV prevalence.”
Rinyiru identified this problem in her study, where “MSWs had little knowledge about water-based lubricants.”
This ignorance about male to male sex accounted for the high prevalence of HIV in MSMs, where Njugore reported that a study found that 47% of MSMs were HIV positive. Runyiri added that “STI infections were common in MSMs,” she added.
So much for your lie that anal sex is healthy.
Dr De Cock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading the battle against the disease, said understanding of the threat posed by the virus had changed. Whereas once it was seen as a risk to populations everywhere, it was now recognised that, outside sub-Saharan Africa, it was confined to high-risk groups including men who have sex with men, injecting drug users, and sex workers and their clients.
As a side note, I've always thought a section in the DSM should include excessive religiosity (I don't know what it would be called; religio-schizoid anti-social personality disorder, perhaps?). It would appear that this affliction and its recognized effects socially do in fact lead to disruptions in quality of life issues for folks (ie: victims of bigotry, stoning, wars etc...).
Alex, Thanks for sharing your story. Especially impressive considering the prejudice and lack of understanding expressed in some of the posts preceding yours. If I may ask, was the research included in my OP in any way helpful, that is to say did it add further to what you already knew?
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Being homosexual is a mental disorder, period!
This was scientifically proven by the American Psychiatric Association until it removed homosexuality from its diagnostic list of mental disorders in 1973.
It was removed from the list NOT because of evidence to the contrary, but because of political pressure and protests. This is really sad because science is supposed to be above this sort of thing. Once political pressure starts interfering with scientific studies, then science renders itself useless.