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What is needed is organization and leaders?
I dont think so!
What is needed is people that can think and decide for themselves.
It's the leaders who have been leading us all into ever more government and ever more debt and war.
What we need is small, decentralized units of self-governing people.
No more global corporations, no more overpaid directors and managers, no more profit, no more all-encompassing government. No more need for large armies and weapons. No more need for eitehr capitalism or communism/socialism. No need for multi-national companies.

Capitalism/profit based economy is a parasitical economic system.
So is communism.
Any form of a hierarchical system is a plague to human society. All these systems only lead to exclusion and nationalism.
But a people that believes that wars are necessary and that the differences between people are to be exploited and made profit off, is in my eyes already lost. The last throes of death that this current government is shaking the world with, are slowly destroying the power base of the former world-power.
The vise-like grip of the dominator-caste is pushing the people towards revolt, and, just like in the past, the idiots that were in government have destroyed the progress of those who really want to do good.
If you really wish for 'good leadership', try to lead yourself into NOT voting for the most hardarse, loudmouthed liar.
It is the same bull# as in the second WW." The people are in need of a strong leader" is what they always shout at times like this. Ninetynine times out of a hundred, they vote for a dictator.
Ooops, we cant turn back that mistake.....

No we do not need leaders, we need AUTONOMY, self-sufficience, self-control. AND we need better education; not just use science as a new way to make people part from their money.

AND we need peace, ofcourse. Not more wars fought over the right to another nation's oil.

Lets grow up.

*snip*, with stuff like that happening, its amazing nothin has happened, how much more can get you away with before they get caught, i guess thats what happens when you have all the power in the world, im lucky i dont live live in the good old USA.
So they pull 9/11 so they can finish Iraq and increase their power, besides spending trillions and losing over 3000 soldiers, what have they gained, have you guys got more oil out of it, its getting *snip* expensive in Oz $1.70 a litre. What was the point of going 2 Iraq?how many Iraqis have died? 1 million? Where now Iran, spend more trillions, lose 20000 soldiers, and petrol is still sky high, this world is a sick one, looks like it gonna take take an apperance from Jesus Christ himself to sort this hole out. have fun.

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Originally posted by WhatTheory
What a load of rubbish!

Some people are so blind or perhaps brainwashed by the liberal propaganda that they cannot think for themselves.
DD, all of your posts are exactly the same. They are all anti-Bush, anti-America or something similar. Your posts are getting quite old, tired and boring because you keep repeating yourself with the same propaganda which of course has no proof involved. You do realize Utube videos with chopped up half sentences uploaded by anonymous people does not equal proof right?

The proof that I have used to change my mind on this administration is indeed parts of these videos and many MORE. No, not the chopped up version like this one was but the fact that I watched those announcements. At first I was like, "OH SH!T" I hope we get those bastards! Then a month later another statement would be made that would contradict the first. This began to happen more and more. Then the push for the war in Iraq was so obvious. You see, I'm a student of psychology. It's a fascinating subject. This administration has used it to manipulate the people of this nation.

It is people like you that need to wake up. The ones that faithfully follow this administration without any questions of their actions. DD does not sit here trying to bash this administration. THEY DO IT THEMSELVES! Wake up dude.

I'm glad I finally did.

Oh yeah, point 1, I did it WITHOUT having to read this 'liberal' propoganda. I did it with my conservative mind.

Point 2, what DD is doing IS WHAT AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT!

It's people like you that want to silence the people that question the actions of those in government that are unAmerican.

They are doing it all over again, as we speak, with IRAN!!

Of course they are. The majority of Americans still trust their government it seems, however crazy that may seem to the rest of the world.


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All you american people who trust your goverment.. Well, I have to say that the rest of the world things you are crazy or simply brainwashed in some weird way. All we can think of is that your media is somehow restricted, there simply is no other way for this to even be possible.

Perhaps those who think liberal is what causes people to stop thinking are the ones who are wrong. After all, without liberal thoughts there is no development at all. That's from where all our development began anyway, and it is something that is needed when you want to get rid of religion when it for example prevents you from thinking that earth goes around the sun.

stupid..

It may not be Jesus's second coming, because Jesus already had his turn try to save humanity. I believe this time its Buddha's turn to save the world. And each man is a buddha unto himself. We've always relied on prophets to show us things any man can see for himself if he opened up his mind and ears. The prophets of the past have only gained the insight, knowledge and wisdom they bore to the people in ways that a select few of us have witnessed, yet choose to ignore. Why? So we can let humanity once again fail in the quest for ascension? So we can show the 4th dimension that we are STILL NOT READY to accept the outside world. No. The next prophet to show himself, will show himself individually amongst each person, inside of them. It is within each person, in this mass individual awakening that we will be asked to awake or not.

I have talked to the creator, all-mighty, and we are nothing more than an outlet for creative power. In essence, this entity has always been, and always will be in and amongst the inner workings of the constructive mind.

that was a reply to john_locke.

hi all

if you have a couple hours free time and/or are interested in this kind of stuff i would suggest watching this video...

2012 and the future of mankind.

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To all those people that think bush has done nothing, watch that video and think of that being your children/family.Evil bastard is not the word for it.

I would love to see that live and be there, so I could witness that as it unfolded. This Administration will not be hailed in the history books as having done a Hoover Dam for America, other than totally lie, cover-up, and screw the American population up their collective tax loopholes.

Sorry, had to go with the pun/slash euphamism for certain words, as I'm sick and tired of this idiot in the "Round Peg Goes In The Square Hole' office.

Lies, lies, lies, all he has passed to the American people are lies.

Oh yeah, excuses as well.

Originally posted by dariousg
It is people like you that need to wake up. The ones that faithfully follow this administration without any questions of their actions.

I don't know what you are talking about because I have been critical of this administration. I don't agree with them on a lot of issues.

Instead of using someone else's video or words, let's discuss it using your own words. Let's see if you can think for yourself. Let's keep it limited to one or two points because otherwise posts get to long.

So please give me an example of what you are talking about.

Oh yeah, point 1, I did it WITHOUT having to read this 'liberal' propoganda. I did it with my conservative mind.

Well, if this is true, then you are an exception to the rule and good for you. Most here only spew remarks that others have made for them.

It's people like you that want to silence the people that question the actions of those in government that are unAmerican.

Look, if you are not going to pay attention to what I say then what is the point of debating.
Where did I say I believe he should be silenced for his thoughts? I did NOT say any such thing. So be a man and either prove me wrong or apologize.

I am angry. Angry enough to go to war with the lib cowards in my own country. Cutting up old video and making left wing propaganda is not going to change real Americans into you whining democrats. Iraq had chem weapons. THEY USED THEM ON THE KURDS AND IRAN. Sadam and his sons murdered millions of people. Where are your tears for them? Iran is now trying to build a nuke and threatens to wipe Israel off the map every other week. Are we suppose to wait until Iran can hit Kansas to act. I would rather get the list of reg democrats and export you all to the EU.

TXMACHINEGUNDLR, sure Iraq had chem weapons, but weren't you searching for NUCLEAR weapons? Not chem. Remember that. I slight twist of the truth can sometimes render your entire argument, worthless. Maybe it is you who should be shipped off, not to the EU, but to some other Police State, like the Peoples' Republic of China where they ignore food safety rules and trade regulations, 25000 children are dying from unknown disorders and pollution, the police state cracks down on the freedom of its people, and people sometimes have to die to get these freedoms back. Wait, it sounds a lot like Right Wing America. So maybe you are already there. Except you owe trillions of your own country's wealth to a Less Superior Republic that seeks to destroy it.

You are, the heart of America. Cheers.

And yes, murder was rampant in Iraq. Saddam and his sons murdered many, just as Bush and his troops continue to do the same. Nothing's changed. Where are your sympathies for the people who really need some sort of occupation? Id like to see the US try to go into Africa and take back a rebel city, or North Korea, where the people arent even aware of an outside world? It's not enough that this war is about control over the second largest oil producer in the world, They are also showing hostility to Iran? Noone's mentioned Syrian, Chinese and Russian ties to that country. Are you going to drag the entire Pan-Asian Union into war with the US? That would put the chinese in a pickle, but right wing world policing is exactly what is wrong with US Foreign Policy.

I'm blown away that people still defend the Bush administration. It's sad, pathetic and embarrassing. It's like seeing a middle aged guy still wearing a "Members Only" jacket or the redneck with a cigarette dangling from his mouth wearing a ball-cap cruising in a rusty 1978 Trans Am thinking he's cool.

But have reverence for you are witnessing a rare breed. You have to think about what sort of mind comes to a conspiracy forum to try to dismiss the conspiracy! It's like an alcholic showing up at a AA meeting blinding drunk. What sort of warped mind comes into a forum such as this, that's entirely set up to unravel conspiracies and they attack you for questioning! It's approaching insanity when you think about it. Imagine meeting up with one of these Bush defenders in their home. It must be akin to visiting a serial killer's basement. I mean come on guys! Wolfowitz is gone, Rumsfield is gone, Colin Powell is gone, Gonzales got the boot, Karl Rove is gone and now Bush's close friend Scott McClellan is calling Bush and Cheney liars! And now a US REPRESENTATIVE is calling for impeachment! A US REPRESENTATIVE!! It's not proof, it's history written in cold, dusty stone.

I noticed that someone said "rubbish" to the thread/video. How in the world can that video be "rubbish"? It's simply compiled video clips of Bush, Rumsfield, Cheney speaking! It is what it is.

Someone else said it takes time to "wake up" and for change to happen. Uhmm what!!?? The French Revolution took place in days -- the Berlin Wall came down in hours -- and the planes that hit the twin towers and turned our world upside down took hours. The right type of change happens fast.

reply to post by WhatTheory


I am wondering what exactly you don't get about this video? They say one thing and then back step saying either they never said what they did in fact say or they twist what they said into something different. Are you seriously suggesting that this video is a fake somehow or that it is out of context? If it is in fact out of context or somehow bull hoowey then please lead us to the facts.

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
I am angry. Angry enough to go to war with the lib cowards in my own country. Cutting up old video and making left wing propaganda is not going to change real Americans into you whining democrats. Iraq had chem weapons. THEY USED THEM ON THE KURDS AND IRAN. Sadam and his sons murdered millions of people. Where are your tears for them? Iran is now trying to build a nuke and threatens to wipe Israel off the map every other week. Are we suppose to wait until Iran can hit Kansas to act. I would rather get the list of reg democrats and export you all to the EU.

1. "Had" chemical weapons. Our main reason for going into Iraq was that Saddam was preparing to use nukes and chem weapons on the USA and was working with Osama to do it. (As said by Bush and his goons.) When in fact Saddam stop producing chem weapons in the 90s and had even gotten rid of what he had. Also, considering that we (The USA) was backing Saddam during the war with Iran, I dont think you should be using it as an argument to attack anyone.

2. Why the hell are we (the USA) so F-ing concerned about Israel? I personally never understood this.

3. We let millions of people every year starve to death all over the planet and even in our very own nation. I worked at a grocery store for a few years and eventually noticed that we had a few elderly people that would come in and order cases of canned pet food. It dawned on me that these people were eating the pet food when I noticed they only bought what food was on sale and woiuld switch from cat to dog food following the sales. Old people, in the richest nation on the planet, eating F-ing dog food to survive. Our midwest alone can produce enough corn and wheat to feed EVERY person on the planet, yet starvation grips most of Africa and parts of South America. Where are your tears for these people?

4. Fear is your enemy. We invade Iran and it will be the same as Iraq...we wont find anything except more lies and more body bags. The reason they hate us is because we DONT STAY OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS!

5. You say you want to ship all of us to the EU, you should sign up to go to Iraq...I bet youll have some excuse why you cant go. People like you always have excuses.

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Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
I am angry. Angry enough to go to war with the lib cowards in my own country. Cutting up old video and making left wing propaganda is not going to change real Americans into you whining democrats. Iraq had chem weapons. THEY USED THEM ON THE KURDS AND IRAN. Sadam and his sons murdered millions of people. Where are your tears for them? Iran is now trying to build a nuke and threatens to wipe Israel off the map every other week. Are we suppose to wait until Iran can hit Kansas to act. I would rather get the list of reg democrats and export you all to the EU.

Saddam Hussein was only following his dictates and doing what he was ordered to do as a Puppet Dictator to the C.I.A. as a placed dictator, they did not like when he began to think for himself, which is the only reason he was taken down. He began acting in his own interests, instead of being the Adminstration's boogeyman to scare U.S. citizens with.

The same can be said of Charles Manson. If he were to actually do anything different in prison than sit there and and hold his silent power while he is doing whatever other nefarious plots from within, like overthrow the prison and take it over without direct orders, he'd be shanked faster than Saddam Hussein was hanged.

Straw adversaries, one and all.

reply to post by TheObjectReport


Haha, the funniest part about that is these people's embarrassingly pathetic attempts to say, "they're twisting their words"...

THESE PEOPLE LIED-OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT'S STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE. WAKE UP.

When the lies are right in the open, exposed in their full glory with anyone who has eyes and ears to see and hear them, these same people STILL refuse to accept the reality that stares them right in the face. And notice that they always resort to name calling and personal attacks, rather than trying to refute the irrefutable. Because no matter how hard they try, they can't. It's right there. You either accept that you were played for a fool and preyed upon, or you continue to live in denial.

But how many more thousands will have to die for these same pathological liars next agenda in IRAN? As we can see, they are passing out the kool-aid by the gallons, and these same folks will be drinking it up and asking for seconds...

Sigh.

Originally posted by AnOldFriend
I am wondering what exactly you don't get about this video? They say one thing and then back step saying either they never said what they did in fact say or they twist what they said into something different. Are you seriously suggesting that this video is a fake somehow or that it is out of context? If it is in fact out of context or somehow bull hoowey then please lead us to the facts.

Look, its thrown together with pieces of chopped up video. We don't know the context of the video or what questions were asked regarding the answers. Anybody can throw a video together to make anyone look bad.
My point is, if you want to debate this then please give me an example using YOUR own words and not somebody else's video or words.
Simple, give me ONE example of what this video is talking about in your own words so we can have a debate on whether it's warranted. I know its difficult for some to use their own brains and think for themselves, but let's give it a try.