Originally posted by crontab


The three religions of the west all have a moral tradition. G-d determines what is right and what is wrong. There are fixed moral values, which even the greatest kings and emperors are not allowed to change.

Sheer nonsense; god doesnt determine anything; in this case it is the priests who have the knowledge of god? This is exactly the same trick, oh misled one!
Christianity is a decidedly violent religion.
ANY religion is a trick. The way to honour a deity is personal for everyone. ANY organized religion is bound to be a system of repression.
"Fixed moral values" yeah right, totally open to and victim of interpretation.
Every christian leader thruout history has broken at least one of the ten commandments and usually they break a bunch of them on a daily basis.
Let's face it, religion is a crock of crap. Worship isnt. But anyone claiming to have the knowledge of god's will is definitely a liar and a false prophet.
If god herself wouldspeak to us, well, hey, I wouldnt have a problem accepting, but any human? I guess not. Humans dont know the will of god. At least not better than I know the will of god for me.
And as long as we have organized religion, we will have religious wars and fanatic followers.



[edit on 22-6-2008 by dervishmadwhirler]

I have posted very valid information. Many people at this site agree with my posts. I was debating the information in peace all day yesterday until theis riley person showed up. I did not seek them out they came and attacked me.

The trouble maker is obviously tis other riley!!!

They called me retarded and then edited ther post to escape guilt. Check and you will see he qwent back and edited it out and changed it around after he offended me.

PLEASE GET BACK TO THE INFORMATION AND STOP PERSONAL ATTACKS RILEY

Originally posted by rileytardell
The trouble maker is obviously tis other riley!!!

They called me retarded and then edited ther post to escape guilt. Check and you will see he qwent back and edited it out and changed it around after he offended me.

That is a blatent LIE. I DID NOT call you retarded. I said you reminded me of someone who used to spam my profile with tard jokes ..one of which you commented right above in my profile [shows I'm telling the truth- I am now more convinced]. I made this very clear at the time. I even started a thread over the issue of that insult so I would never do it myself.

PLEASE GET BACK TO THE INFORMATION AND STOP PERSONAL ATTACKS RILEY

Putting that claim in all caps will not make it true.

I would like to ignore you from now on.. I suggest you do the same.

And you posted valid information?

A video of the dalai lama with horns screaching for 20 seconds is not valid information. It was clearly meant to antagonise and insult people.. thats not something you'd want to do your first day.

[edit on 22-6-2008 by riley]

Originally posted by rileytardell
riley you know you directly called me retarded well you said a "tard"
you wrote it and then went back and edited your post to change it - when I pointed it out.

That is a lie.

YOU even quoted what I said. In your own words:

Originally posted by rileytardell

Originally posted by riley
Your posting style really reminds me of this troll that used to spam my profile with 'tard' jokes..

Oh name calling now? Belittling the handicapped too!

My name is Tardell not Tard - you are just a cruel petty name caller.

You even commented above the person I was talking about in my profile yet haven't even mentioned him.. instead you have opted to keep accusing me of calling you a retard when I have already proven I didn't.

This is the last time I explain this.. my gut tells me this is a set up. not feeding you anymore.

[edit on 22-6-2008 by riley]

Originally posted by riley
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I would like to ignore you from now on.. I suggest you do the same.



[edit on 22-6-2008 by riley]

Ooooh, great idea, I forgot about that possibility, thanks.
It is clear that this rileytardell dude is just an infiltrator.
Someone with a track record like yours of years and years of membership is clearly not going to mess that up. Rileytardell, shame on you and wont get fooled again (haha)
It is clear you crave negative attention. I dont think more evidence is needed to totally ban you. It is a shame that people like you can just insult people and not get banned.

Thanks riley, for not letting yourself be lowered to the standards of this whatever he is. I advice people to read the whole thread and see where this rileytardell is coming from. I can tell you that it is full of it.

Please stay on topic, and end the discussion of fellow members. If there is something that needs to be said which does not follow with the topic here, please take it to u2u's or file a complaint.

The topic of this thread is Buddhist Conspiracy For World Perversion, let's please stick to it from here on out.

Originally posted by rileytardell
Yet Sufferuing ABOUNDS in Buddhist controlled areas! Wake up!

That's why it's a conspiracy. THEY LIE. There's no good in Buddhism. Take a look at the Buddhist areas of the world they are deplorable. Buddhism teaches to just accept suffering. While the evil Buddhists dish it out.

Name a country or place on this planet where there is no suffering.

Tell me of a sutra in the tripitaka where the Buddha states buddhists should cause suffering.

The Buddha teaches there is suffering and a way to end suffering. You cannot do anything about something without accepting it first, similar to for example addictions. He didn't say ending suffering is an easy feat.

Some of the countries with a buddhist tradition do not have that much luxury compared to other countries without that tradition. Might be because buddhism states the material is inferior to the spiritual, meaning true happiness can be achieved without luxury, in contrast to what we in the west believe, the better our worldly goods are the more happy we become.

Although I doubt this discussion will lead anywhere I am curious what the OP's personal reasons are for his or her crusade against buddhism?



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What's wrong with peace?

An ideology, religion or -ism does not exist that has never caused suffering. Humans generally do not act in ANY way that will not cause suffering to some. That's because of dualism, of which certain religions try to teach you away from

Originally posted by Dragonfly79
Name a country or place on this planet where there is no suffering.

Try to Name one that's not Buddhist with a sex slave market like Thailand.

Tell me of a sutra in the tripitaka where the Buddha states buddhists should cause suffering.

It doesn't matter what they saythe Buddah said - its what they DO.

The Buddha teaches there is suffering and a way to end suffering. You cannot do anything about something without accepting it first, similar to for example addictions. He didn't say ending suffering is an easy feat.

No Buddha says to just accept it. Its karma - so selling your 10 year old girl for $100 is ethical to a Buddhist.

Some of the countries with a buddhist tradition do not have that much luxury compared to other countries without that tradition. Might be because buddhism states the material is inferior to the spiritual, meaning true happiness can be achieved without luxury, in contrast to what we in the west believe, the better our worldly goods are the more happy we become.

Is it a luxury now for a 10 year old to not be raped by old men?

Although I doubt this discussion will lead anywhere I am curious what the OP's personal reasons are for his or her crusade against buddhism?

The innocent victims of it. And the fact there is an International Buddhist Conspiracy. The evil Buddhists make the Illuminati look like altar boys. The real NWO will come from TIBET.

I'm sorry, but I can't take any of this stuff seriously. There's way too much PRC anti-Buddhist propaganda going around the internet right now.