Buddhist Conspiracy For World Perversion, page 5

reply to post by star in a jar

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Bhudhism does not encourage lust. Lust is attachment ,attachment leads to misery. These are quotes from the DHAMMAPADA "From lust arises grief ;from grief arises fear. For him who is free from lust there is no grief , much less fear."And here is another quote dealing with lust " There is no fire like lust. There is no grip like hate. There is no net like delusion. There is no river like craving." I doubt those who run or patronize the the sex industry are Bhuddists.

I'd like to back up the OP in his comments. Several christian organizations that aid persecuted christians have been reporting the great violence and persecution against christians from buddhists.

Here is one example:
Buddhists Persecute Christians

There are many others in Sri Lanka and elsewhere. So much for your peace loving Buddhists. The fact is this false religion is lit by the fires of hell IMHO.

Fortunately I have complete faith that Christ will prevail over these situations. It seems like the recent tragedies in Myanmar have exposed how evil the Buddhist military junta in Myanmar really is. I see the hand of God in this.

RileyTardell:

I take refuge in the Buddha; I take refuge in the dharma; I take refuge in the sangha.

I send you this Medicine Buddha, as it is clear your mind and heart are sick.


I hope you get well soon. Please call poison control also, as it is apparent you swallowed the Pro-Communist Chinese Propaganda Poison.

reply to post by SevenThunders

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Blaming Buddhism for the events in Burma is like blaming Christianity for the war in Iraq. Just because the people in charge claim to be a part of that faith doesn't mean they actually adhere to its tenets. The blame lies on the corrupt governments and people carrying out these actions, not the belief-system to which they pretend to follow.

reply to post by Wintermute

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Many Buddhist monks take part in the persecution however. Apparently they feel threatened by the growth of christianity. It is quite a shame.

reply to post by rileytardell

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I have spent a good deal of time on ATS. I have watched many things here on ATS, things I do not are with, and things that are unbelievable. But it would seem that even I, have not seen it all.

I am truly at a loss of words... speechless..

The Dali Lama has expressed his appreciation of Christianity's "love" for the world and people in general. How could that even be construed as... evil?

Buddhism is based around the alleviation of suffering and the discovery of happiness and collectiveness...

Looking at your posts I am confused... dismayed.. grief stricken.. and dearly concerned.

What could have possibly driven you beyond simple disgust, or shunning; to... bloodcurdling hate? I see Buddhism as I do Christianity, nothing much more than a list of Commandments... What could be wrong with adhering to a list of teachings... Ideals of how to live your life right?

I take your attack upon Buddhism, as an attack on the very soul of humanity. I could see a disagreeance, or even serious misgivings... but hate?

That good sir, I cannot see. Buddhism en whole stands as a set of lessons, lessons of self betterment; how could that be bad?

Please explain it to me, I follow the Buddhist Way. So please explain how I am lost, or wrong?

To address your stated misgivings:

The "Buddhist Monks" in India do not appear to be following Buddha's teachings. Thus, I could easily identify the Dali Lama's handling of them, to an extent. Also the "worship" of anything is attachment, which is bad as several other posters identified.

There will always be those whom claim to be one thing, while they are secretly another, true Buddhists would not descend to pedophilia and incest; that is beyond forgivable and they will never reach enlightenment in their lifetime, ever.

As for the "banning" of Christianity Conversion, that would certainly only be temporary. I do think it to be wrong to use a crisis situation as a medium for bringing religion. Surely some would argue that it would be the best time for them to do so. yet again people in such situations are vulnerable and need to make such an important decision wisely; would you not agree? In addition religion may give you protection I could agree with that to some extent, but would it not be better to suspend any "conversaionary" tactics by either side until after the incident, and normalcy has been reestablished? You not you think it best to be fully collected to make what may be the most important decision in your life, rather than in need or possibly desperate for relief?

I would stress that Buddhism is not a "religion" per se. It is more a set of Ideals. The only caveat is that of Enlightenment. I personally do not agree with this aspect, however I do recognize why those who believe in it do. My reciprocating question is why you believe in Heaven? I am of course assuming you are of the Christian Faith; if I am in error my humblest apologies good sir.

I wish quarrel with anyone, just seek understanding. Will you grant me this condition?

- Maban

reply to post by SevenThunders

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While that may be true, you still can't blame Buddhism for this. I don't know if you live in the US, but if you do, imagine this scenario: Tomorrow, Bush announces that the government has come up with a plan to weed out all the evil Muslims in America and to make Christianity the national faith. The military goes around, burning temples and killing Muslims and what have you. Do you think any overzealous Christian pastors would get caught up in it and help the government out? Sure, probably at least a few.

It's the same way with Buddhism, or with ANY group of people anywhere. Christ didn't teach to murder and crush the other faiths, nor did Buddha. But it happens. It's not the fault of the religion itself, just the fault of some misguided individuals who believe they have right on their side.

reply to post by nexusmagazine

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So you too believe there is a conspiracy by buddhist to take over the west because that is what the quote you posted was reffering to. Please do not use my quotes out of context.

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by nexusmagazine

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So you too believe there is a conspiracy by buddhist to take over the west because that is what the quote you posted was reffering to. Please do not use my quotes out of context.

No I don't believe there is a conspiracy by buddhists to take over the west. And I am sorry if you feel that I used your quote out of context.

My gripe against Tibetan Buddhism, is the same as my gripe about Christianity and Islam and Hinduism - and that is - they all suppress women, they all preach one message, and yet the leadership practices what they like, which is usually drugs, sex, death and power. The leadership of all these religions are nothing more than corrupt hypocritical figureheads.

I look forward to the day when mankind recognises its natural divinity; sees God in everyone and everything, and when it no longer needs corrupt power structures that seek to put themselves between us and God.

Duncan

If you are going to critize buddhism, at least do it by using the buddhist doctrine and not some acts which are because of buddhism according to you while in reality they are happening in all religions and societies as many pointed out already.

Also, I love Bhutan but I'm sure if Riley found out it is a Buddhist kingdom where they worship the penis and have pictures of it all over the place and are very open about sexuality, the country must be the source of all evils.

Originally posted by Threadfall
How do you expect Buddhists to carry out this massive worldwide takeover when the make up barely 6 percent of the world's religious believers?

If you take a look at history buddhism did quite well in spreading.link showing spread of buddhism

At some time there were buddhists in Afghanistan (see the statues of Bamyan) and Japan. However the buddhist influence waned in favor of other religions who had simply better armies.

There is also something about the Bodhisattva vow in Mahayana buddhism:
"I vow to liberate all beings, without number
I vow to uproot endless blind passions
I vow to penetrate dharma gates beyond measure
I vow to attain the way of the Buddha"
A bodhisattva is basically a saint or someone striving to become one. The Dalai Lama for example is considered a highly realized bodhisattva but anyone could be one. In Theravada, they are arahants, though the goal here is to liberate oneself and may or may not return to assist other beings attaining nirvana.

Here a person chooses to be reborn in samsara (this world) in order to ( basically) end their own suffering and when they do, teach beings why they are suffering so those suffering beings can end their suffering as well. Bodhisattva's are reborn and reborn again and again until all (sentient) beings have been liberated (from suffering and ignorance). So their vow affects me as well and can't be completed until I become a bodhisattva myself (or maybe arahant). And in that respect there is a conspiracy in Mahayana buddhism to dominate the world, afterall we all influence eachother and that way we cause suffering for ourselves. If one person wastes a river, many will get sick because of it. So everyone has to be subdued to buddhist doctrine if the goal of ending suffering is to be accomplished.

But it's pretty much the same that every Christian would like others to know about Jesus' love and accept Him as a savior. And if you don't accept Him, the Lord sends you to hell. Or accept Allah as the true God and if you don't, you'll go to hell. Become a bodhisattva (or arahant) and attain nirvana or suffer the rest of your rebirths (which is also hell, full of suffering except it isn't a place in the afterlife perse). Attain moksha and be liberated or...

Now to say something against any conspiracy. It is true the West is becoming more acquinted with buddhism but that is because of;

- better ways to exchange information for the masses like the internet; before it was difficult to get a book about buddhism in the west
- in the past if you were into buddhism in a predominant Christian country you'd be exiled from society (or at least have a hard time being a minority)
- the Tibetans being forced out of their country and trying to establish and doing so preserving their culture and religion outside of it, the West being receptive to their message due to all kinds of circumstances (being the underdog with a higher moral ground, more people becoming atheists because of science, exploring new ways of coping with everyday stress like meditation).
The Chinese invasion of Tibet is not something they conspired to do. Unless the Tibetan elite orchestrated the Chinese invasion in their homeland so the monks would be forced to leave and spread the buddhist message to the West ofcourse (I think not).

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