Hey thanks for completely ignoring my post.
I would like to actually have a discussion instead of you bashing the 'mythic' nature of believing in G-d.
The idea i proffered earlier can be compared in microcosm to mans highest faculty "will" and its manifestation, in action(malkhut). The entire
Kabbalah and esoteric philosophy is based on this idea. The process in between pure desire and action constitutes the spiritual worlds between man and
G-d. They are abstract and called 'spiritual'.
Each sphere symbolizes a particular archetypal function used by the creator to interact with man and creation.
In a human spiritual sense, these 10 levels manifest as 'Will' - Keter, conceptualization - Chokmah, Cognition - Binah, The next 3 sefirot act as a
triad. Chesed, Gevurah, Tiferet, are an inner focused stage of emotion where one establishes his feelings about a particular subject. Chesed is a
total expansion, Gevurah a total contraction, and tiferet a balance and harmony between the two. The following triad of Netzach, Hod, Yesod deals with
the application of this 'energy' outward. The right vector deals with the power to 'dominate', and the left column with the power to empathize. while
the middle sphere, Yesod, synthesizes the two. Malkhut is the action itself. Everytime we act this process occurs instantaneously. The sefirot
constitute all processes in creation. Every phenomena, whether spiritual or physical, is a function of the sefirot. In each sefirah itself are
intercluded the entire ten sefirot, and this goes on ad infinitum. In each particularly phenomena, a particular sefirah and triad is more dominant,
and thus said to reflect this quality most.
So with this explained. Keter corresponds to the highest spiritual level. The world of Adam Kadmon. The next lower of world of emanation, called the
world of Atzilut is composed of 6 partzufim(personas). I mentioned the first two earlier, correspond to the Keter of Atzilut (The highest sphere in
the world of emanation). This Keter is divided into two personas. Arich Anpin and Atik Yomin. The former is 'desire' and the latter, pleasure. The
former 'protrudes' and sticks out. It is the beginning of a separate reality. In a purely psychological sense, "desire" is the first conscious
apprehension of spiritual activity. Pleasure, precedes action in that one doesnt desire unless he seeks pleasure. Likewise, one cant experience
pleasure without first having the desire for it. Therefore one isnt AWARE of pleasure until desire is expressed. In essence, they are bound up in the
same sphere, but the pleasure precedes will and is deemed more internal, and primary in that people simply wouldnt desire without pleasure. This is
similar to the buddhist idea that desire has to be rooted out, in order to unite with the intrinsic bliss behind all existence (the level of Atik
Yomin). Thus, buddhists dont seek to satisfy the divine pleasure, with THIS, physical world, by performing commandment. They instead go straight for
the bliss, Atik Yomin, which is attained through overcoming all desire for physical, transient things (but apparently not the desire to root these
G-d commandments, the 7 noahide laws, emanate from Arich Anpin (the external, level keter which interacts with the world), whereas Atik Yomin, is
hidden. Its the "hidden pleasure" thats only revealed when the desire "will" of G-d, is fullfilled in this lowliest of worlds - action, which reflects
the will back upwards, and excites the divine pleasure - "Atik Yomin" with us having performed the almighties will.
I dont usually like breaking things down this way, because it sorta neglects the amazing mystical joy one experiences when he lives a Torah lifestyle.
For a Jew who performs the 613 laws, its much greater, becuase they perform the whole will of the creator. For a Bnei Noach (children of Noah),
mankind has to follow 7 Noahide Laws. unlike what is peddled at conspiracy sites, the 7 laws of Noach are also followed by Jews, as the 7 laws
themselves are contained in the 10 commandments. Jews have additional laws, which connect and draw influence into this world. Why the Jews? Why are
there priests, leaders? There are "chosen" people in all spheres of life. Does that make them BETTER? or does that simply mean each person has a role,
and station to assume in his earthly life. Each place is meaningul because each place poses a CHALLENGE for the soul to overcome. This is all
connected to the idea of Olam Tikkun (rectifying the world). Jews were given a priestly, inward focused role, whereas the 6 + billions Gentiles, who
contstitute the majority of humanity, were created to 'adorn' the Tree of Life. To be outward focused, to developed this physical world and bring G-d
into it. Depending on ones perspective, being a Bnei Noach is even more desirable, because were granted greater flexibility and freedom from regiment.
Whereas a Jew has to seriously focus himself to an incredible degree to perperly perform each of the 613 laws. But at the same time, these actions
draw down a level of bliss and blessing that the effort is well worth the the effort. So, each is good in his place. If one wants to enter the
covenant, and become a Jew, he may do so. So theres no 'superiority' in the Jewish position. Only a role. A priestly caste, devoted to many
commandments, and a humanity, who serves G-d in their own unique station, accorded the same rights to seek a living, have a family and serve G-d. The
nation of america, by the way, was founded on the Noahide Laws, and the concept of a representative government, a republic, is hinted at in the story
of Jethros advice to moses on how to run the people (he essentially says, appoint reprtesentatives for the 'little things' ie; local issues, and the
big things they'll come to you "national issues". This is a representative, non centralized government)
The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are
1. Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
2. Prohibition of Murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
3. Prohibition of Theft: You shall not steal.
4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, namely adultery, incest, anal sex between men and
5. Prohibition of Blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.
6. Dietary Law: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in the Talmud (Sanhedrin 59a)
7. Requirement to have just Laws:
These 7 commandments excite the divine pleasure; and HaShem (the name - a modest epithet for the tetragrammaton) responds by sending down divine
bounty, and holiness into the world. This is basically a responce from below - from mankind, to the call from above - G-d, which results in a response
from above - G-d, to take pleasure in us - Mankind. As a gentile who came from a christian background i find this idea amazing, and utterly beuatiful.
I cannot imagine a more perfect, and personal meaning in life. Not only are we trained to look past the dualism of lower existence, but we begin to
experience it as an actual extension of G-d, in this world, with us. This world becomes what it was meant to be; a Garden of Eden. Eden refers to the
bliss and blessing of the holy one, and the garden refers to this world, which 'tends' this reality, in this world. This world is the projection of
the spiritual worlds, with its concepts, into this world, crystalized and made real (much more real than the 'abstract'). Therefore we know G-d in a
deeper sense, when we connect with him through this world.
I also find purpose, and Judaism recognizes it aswell, in the beauty of other cultures, and religions. But they all must adhere to the 7 laws of Noah.
I know of many groups in America, Native americans, Cherokee, who embrace the 7 laws of Noach and revere and study the Holy Torah. But they also
follow the teachings of their ancestors and forefathers, and G-d wouldnt want anything less. Likewise, in China, with their beuatiful and peaceful
Taosim; Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam etc. Imagine this was Christianiy or Islams view. Because it isnt, you know what their divine 'mission' is all
about. Turning all the rest of us into them. Forced assimilation. Judaism calls for nothing else but the moral acknowledgement of the 7 laws of noah,
which if you look it up at wikipedia, are laws recognized by many other religious traditions, For instance, the leader of Israels Druze population,
signed a document acknowledging that the Druze population will follow G-ds 7 laws. Representatives from Buddhist, Hindu and Taoist groups, have also
come to Jerusalem to make known their allegiance to the 7 laws. These are actual, real laws given to mankind. Only Judaism has committed themselves to
following them and hence the great aggression the nations, the western aristocratic elite, have historically held towards Judaism. Also, Another big
figure who has publically acknowledged the 7 noahide laws, is Adnan Oktar, a very well known Islamic Scholar and spiritual leader from Turkey
. Additionally, Education day in the USA is built around the 7 laws of Noah.
Heres an excerpt from Adman Oktars interview with some represenatives of the renwed Jewish Sanhedrin
"This is very excellent. As you know, and may Allah forbid, some Christians regard Muslims as unbelievers. But as a difference, Jews regard Muslims as
muminun and believers. There are seven laws, as you know, to being one of the People of Noah. These are beliefs also accepted by Muslims, such as that
you must not kill, you must not commit adultery and you must not worship false idols. In those terms, there is an excellent union between us,
insha'Allah. They are also a community descended from the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). They are the descendants of the Prophets.In that respect, they are
entrusted to us by Allah. The sunnah of our Prophet tells us to love, be affectionate toward and watch over and protect the People of the Book. And
that is how our Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) behaved. We also feel love and affection for them. Insha'Allah, all states will be
independent in the time of the Turkish-Islamic Union. There will be the state of Israel, and so will the state of Syria, the state of Iraq, they will
all be independent, but they will love one another very strongly with a spiritual bond, a bond of brotherhood. Masha’Allah"
This may sound like silly nonsense buts it very real, and there is an esoteric wisdom which justifies its truth. The above tried to explain that. And
all those above cases prove that its an idea taken very seriously by more than just the Jews. What could possibly be wrong with any of those laws?
Theyre spiritual laws which all mankind should seek to follow, with fait and simplicity. In addition to this, every religion, and tradition has its
own path to know G-d. Its own language, culture music and way with connecting with G-d. All thats needed, is humility, and submission to the divine
will embodied in these 7 laws.
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