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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 10:20 PM by riley

Originally posted by rileytardell
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NO-WHERE does it even mention Tibet or buddhism

That was a direct lie. At 28 secs in it mentioned Tibet. [SNIP]

I as not trying to lie.. I asked specifically for evidence that proved naziism was based on buddhist culture.. that video did not provide anything other than the swastika coincindence.. which you had already said was not important anyway. Please do not call me a liar.. you said it proved the cultural link that nazism is completely based on buddhism yet it did not.

Now.. please explain how naziism could be based on buddhism when the main principle of buddism is to not cause suffering. Your whole argument is contradictory.

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Yes bigwhammy I already said it mentions tibet.. I already conceded and explained this and how it was just about the swastika and not the culture itself [which was what I asked for]. I made a mistake and did not deserve to be called a liar.
First atheists are evil nazis.. now buddhists are too. Trust you to jump on the bandwagon..

Given I am both I must be really evil.

Do we ignore the FACT that hitler and the vatican made deals and that the pope endorsed his power?

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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Bigwhammy

Not sure what to make of this weird conspiracy. At first I though this was a joke. Now maybe not. The Dali Lama is not the man Richard Gere and all those people led me to believe. I have learned some new stuff. I seriously doubt the Buddhist can take over the world with military power. I mean they can't even control tiny Tibet.

Now a New Age relgious conspiracy I can already see. But its not just Buddhism. Maybe it stems from Buddhism? I don't really know.

But the Nazi connection to Tibet is very fascinating. I knew Hitler was into the Occult but I had never heard of his expedition to Tibet. The swastika video does mention Tibet. The National Geographic video posted here www.abovetopsecret.com... does say Hitler used the Tibetan system as a model of what real kingship should be like so rileytarddell is right on that one and riley is wrong.

Riley Tarddell perhaps you should chill out a little there and maybe more folks will listen. You seem to have good intentions. I know Thailand is terrible for the child victims of prostitution and it is a Buddhist area. I agree it seems like the monks would at least try to do something about it.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 10:28 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 10:50 PM by AshleyD

I know this is going to make me sound very ignorant of world events but can somebody, anybody please clarify this for me. This thread and the original poster has me very confused. I was under the impression Buddhists were currently being persecuted in the East under secular/atheistic regimes and that the Dalai Lama was in exile. Not that I am fond of the DL, but I am very confused and can't understand how Buddhists are supposed to be the aggressors if they are the ones currently being persecuted on a wide scale.

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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 10:58 PM by bigbert81

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Hi Ashley!

*Waves in a dork-like fashion*

This thread is based off of nothing but the typical 'my religion is better than yours' logic. I wouldn't hold too much to it. What is going on here, and is common ground here on ATS, is that some people will pick out what a few others do, and then persecute the entire group of the same for the same crimes. This is the same type of thinking we were using in the Middle Ages and throughout history, and it holds true throughout this thread as well.

What I'm trying to say, Ashley, is that if you try to make sense out of the illogical, you'll go crazy.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:13 PM by Bigwhammy

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Well I know a little about it . It shouldn't just be dismissed- people are dying over there.

Tibet was ruled by a reincarnated Buddhist God King the Dali Lama and then China took over in the 1950s. Tibet had slaves and everything under the Dali Lama it was not a peaceful Buddhist paradise like the free Tibet people say. Now China did free all the slaves but communist China isn't the greatest on rights either. To me they both suck.

Now in other countries like Sri Lanka Buddhists are killing people in the name of Buddhism and persecuting Christians even outlawing conversion. So there are serious human rights violations. Burma is also very bad. India has allegations of the same. Thailand has the worst sex trade.

Its confusing as there different sects of Buddhism all over Asia.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:22 PM by SevenThunders

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Buddhists are persecuting and killing christians wherever they hold power. There is nothing new under the sun. I suggest you do a simple search like,
Buddhist persecution of christianity.

If you go onto voice of the martyrs website you can get information on how christians are persecuted in various countries.

Here's is a link to the Buddhist country of Myanmar
Persecution in Myanmar

As for the Nazi relationship to Tibetan Buddhism, this is a well known fact. Hitler was a member of the Thule society and followed it's esoteric teachings.

These teaching were based in part on theosophy which borrowed much from Tibetan Buddism. The Nazis were obsessed with regards to hidden esoteric teachings from various Tibetan lamas and had even sent an expedition or two to Tibet.

One major occultic influence on Hitler was Karl Haushofer, who was trained in Zen-Buddism and was taught esoterica from Tibetan Lamas, and of course Hitler dedicated Mein Kampf to Dietrich Eckart, the head of the Thule society.

Hitlers occultism

A great book that talks about Hitlers demonic fascination with the occult is "The Twisted Cross". It's out of print these days, probably due to it's explosive revelations.

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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:24 PM by djerwulfe

Funny. I read the first part of this thread and I could see exactly how it would unfold. The parade of "evidence," the outrage, the moral high ground.

What other groups can we demonstrate are made up of humans?

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:38 PM by SevenThunders

One of my favorite stories with regards to Buddhism, is this story of a devout Buddhist monk who died and went straight to hell. In hell he saw the Buddha himself in a lake of fire.

The monk was sent back to earth and he was resurrected during his funeral service.

Buddhist Monk raised from the dead

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:45 PM by riley

I find it strange that buddhism is the only one blamed when other religions such as hinduism, islam and christianity are also common place in india and china [though with restrictions]. Child prostitution and slavery are social problems.. why not blame extreme poverty? makes alot more sense than blaming a belief system that is against causing suffering..

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:47 PM by riley

Originally posted by SevenThunders
One of my favorite stories with regards to Buddhism, is this story of a devout Buddhist monk who died and went straight to hell. In hell he saw the Buddha himself in a lake of fire.

The monk was sent back to earth and he was resurrected during his funeral service.

Buddhist Monk raised from the dead

..fom "http://www.jesus.org.uk/". Yes thats obviously very credible.. reminds me of darwins deathbed confession.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:49 PM by bigbert81

Originally posted by riley
I find it strange that buddhism is the only one blamed when other religions such as hinduism, islam and christianity are also common place in india and china [though with restrictions]. Child prostitution and slavery are social problems.. why not blame extreme poverty? makes alot more sense than blaming a belief system that is against causing suffering..

Well said.

Many of the people here put blame only where they see fit, instead of where it belongs.

Good post.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:54 PM by SevenThunders

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The story has made the rounds a few times. There is no corroborating evidence beyond the eyewitness testimony.

However there is plenty of interesting evidence with regards to the raising of the dead among christians in the developing world.

www.megashiftministries.org...

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:55 PM by AshleyD

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions. That helped me understand some things.

*going back into lurker mode*

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reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:55 PM by rileytardell

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Off topic post. If you want to talk about catholics and Hitler or Hindus persecuting start a thread abiout that. This thread is about Buddhists. Its just more defelection. You can't defend the evil Buddhists so you just shift to another group repeatredly.

reply posted on 25-6-2008 @ 11:58 PM by rileytardell

Originally posted by SevenThunders
One of my favorite stories with regards to Buddhism, is this story of a devout Buddhist monk who died and went straight to hell. In hell he saw the Buddha himself in a lake of fire.

The monk was sent back to earth and he was resurrected during his funeral service.

Buddhist Monk raised from the dead

Someone weho klnows the truth of Buddhism. A relgion lit by the fires of Hell. Buddah was not enlightened he was nothing mopre than demons possesed at best. The fruits of Buddhism are seen in the Buddhist areas. Violence and perversion rule.

reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 12:00 AM by bigbert81

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I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious...

Have you ever studied Buddhism, or are you just guessing?

reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 12:03 AM by riley

Originally posted by rileytardell
reply to post by riley

Off topic post. If you want to talk about catholics and Hitler or Hindus persecuting start a thread abiout that. This thread is about Buddhists. Its just more defelection. You can't defend the evil Buddhists so you just shift to another group repeatredly.

It is certainly NOT offtopic. You made the assertion that buddhism is solely to blame for child prostitution and slavery when clearly there are social and political influences like extreme poverty and sexism that cannot be ignored.

..or do you just want to pretend the social causes don't exist so you can keep calling buddhism evil? Are you saying poverty isn't a major cause of sex slavery then? You don't seem to care about the facts of a child sex slavery.. only demonising buddhists.

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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 12:12 AM by SevenThunders

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What many Westerners don't realize is the hard core paganism that is wrapped up in a sugary coating of banal new age philosophies and sold to Westerners and Buddhism.

The philosophies are toxic, are directly opposed to christ and in it's extreme form give rise to various cult leaders like Eckart and his disciple Adolf Hitler.

These days one might see a new leader emerge with similar philosophies, say Maitreya. It seems that the agnostic west is willing to suspend judgment and believe anything that might teach you can be god, or that through your efforts you can merit favor from God, or improve your karma and eventually achieve godhood etc. etc..

Or in the case of Buddhism, once you fail miserably at being good you go to the priests or monks and get a spiritual uplift from them. Of course they are twice the sons of hell you are, so it's really a spiritual spiral downward.

Jesus teaches that salvation is unmerited. It can not be earned by any effort, beyond that of putting one's trust in Jesus, who did all the hard work for us and still does in regards to righteousness.

reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 06:45 AM by leapoffaith

Originally posted by rileytardell

You have been secretly programmed to laugh at the mere mention of a Buddhist conspiracy, well it's very real.
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Yeah you must be right, I nearly fell from my chair with laughter while reading the OP!
That proves your point!

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