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The True Story of the Bilderberg Group : Daniel Estulin

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posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Okay-Question:

Just HOW MANY of these Bilderberger folks are tied into The Big six media? Do all of the major MSM outlets have one of these Elitists at their helm? Or, perhaps more appropriately worded-Their CORPORATE controllers who decide what does and does not get broadcast to their sheeple audience?


How about every single one of them, DimensionalDetective?


According to Estulin's book, all news media sources, are owned and operated by the Bilderberg Group, completely.

In the book, Daniel Estulin states, that in 1993, The Tavistock Institute, a psychiatric institution for behavioral analysis, planned to control all of the Board's, as in Board of Director's, of the three major and most prestigious television networks in the United States of America, NBC, CBS, and ABC. All three of those organizations were in the past spin-offs of RCA, the Radio Corporation of America.

This is of course in 1993, and the book was published in 2005, copyrighted, and then reprinted in 2007.

The book names off that the Rockefeller, Rothschild, and J.P. Morgan organizations, are all tied to the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as the Bilderberg Group, and Trilateral Commission, or some other variation.

I was trying tpo specifically which companies, but Estulin goes all over the place in years as well as company names, it would take hours to sort all of it out to type in here. He even states within the book, it's so inter-twined and inter-locked, there is no ability for any other news to be released except what the Bilderberg Group wishes to have released.

On top of this, they have major media organizations at their events, but they are sworn to total and complete secrecy as to what goes on at the Bilderberg Group meetings. This is of course from Daniel Estulin's book, I am not stating it as fact, but he seems to know what he's speaking of within it.

[edit on 22-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]




posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Okay-Question:

Just HOW MANY of these Bilderberger folks are tied into The Big six media? Do all of the major MSM outlets have one of these Elitists at their helm? Or, perhaps more appropriately worded-Their CORPORATE controllers who decide what does and does not get broadcast to their sheeple audience?


According to the book in which Daniel Estulin talks about the Bilderberg Group owns every single news outlet, and in conjunction with the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, as well as the Rockefeller and Rothschild families, owns it lock, stock, and barrel.

There is no media outlet that is not owned, operated, or at their every whim to do their bidding in that the major media groups have attended every Bilderberg Group's meetings, while sworn to total and complete secrecy.



posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 09:42 PM
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The guy lost me when he said "forget about the science". This is all a load of crap IMHO. I respect the thread, and probably agree with the idea that the richest people in the world are in control of everything. But what the hell do you expect. They have the money and the power.....The way it has always been. Good post, this stuff fascinates me.



posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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Although it's not really that important to the big picture, I do sometimes wonder if there is anyone above the Rothschilds. The exact dynamic at the top is something I don't think anyone has really got right. Must be one hell of a soap opera up there.



posted on Jun, 22 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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You can go to the Rothschild Bank website there, and or call them on the phone number supplied within it.

If you're calling International, you need to dial it just like this :

011411384711

I've called them before, because I was curious as to what it would take to open a bank account with the Rothschild Bank. The gentleman I spoke with was very nice and reassuring.

I stated I had $10000 to open an account, and I did at the time. He kindly informed Me that it was a $1 Million minimum to open an account with them, and welcomed Me to call again when I had the full amount.

See, I don't just sit here on ATS or just tool around the internet, I actually think about these things, and ask questions of organizations like the Rothschild Bank, or E*Trade, or Verichip.

All companies have a stake in the global agenda is some form, shape, or fashion.

[edit on 22-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 01:20 AM
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Haven't had time to keep up on this so would appreciate a head's up...

but have spotted the talk at ATS that both Hillary and Obama are members of Bilderberg... has this been confirmed?



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 02:26 AM
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No, it hasn't. All we know is that at the Bilderberg meeting in Ottawa some limo occupants were unknown. These limos pulled in at a door where their occupants could not be spotted or photographed. In Alex Jone's video, he assumed that one of these limos was Hillary Clinton's.

However, I think it is confirmed that Obama's wife is CFR.


[edit on 23/6/08 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 02:29 AM
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double post



[edit on 23/6/08 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
However, I think it is confirmed that Obama's wife is CFR.


She's a Director of the Chicago Branch of the CFR - which they call the Chicago Council on Global Affairs just to confuse and obfuscate.

She is not, however, on the official lists of the original CFR org that everyone is familiar with and consult to inquire if one is a "member" of the club.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men

Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
However, I think it is confirmed that Obama's wife is CFR.


She's a Director of the Chicago Branch of the CFR - which they call the Chicago Council on Global Affairs just to confuse and obfuscate.

She is not, however, on the official lists of the original CFR org that everyone is familiar with and consult to inquire if one is a "member" of the club.


I agree with you there about Hillary. As far as Obama goes, I haven't found a link to him with the CFR, yet, and there is a thread on ATS somewhere stating he is a Bilderberger. This is just the typical shell games of politics going on here with these idiots in Washington D.C.

The Shell Game of The New World Order

Whether you want to call this the New World Order, the Bilderberger's, Illuminati, or politics as usual in Washington D.C., is irrelevant, it's just another shell game where they hide the true facts of the situation in order to try to confuse the masses as to what's really going on. It's really all about taking away your choices and your ability to make those choices, as well as your thought processes in determining fact from fiction.

Murdering The Free Mind With Papercuts...Astronauts, The War On Terror, Hitler...and YOU!!!

Putting you into the "hive mind" of only thinking one way, swaying back and forth the Republicans and Democrats are trying to hypnotize you like a giant cobra into not knowing what is really going on.

A "Cingular" mind...kind of like a "Singular" mind of the New World Order

A World At War With Itself only sees the The Straw Adversary...a "terrorist" in our midst.

The politicians know if they can get your attention distracted from the real issues, and keep you focused elsewhere, they can rob you blind and you won't see it happening when it's right in front of your face.

"Oh look at those poor people there who died in the earthquake..."

or

"Oh those poor people's boat capsized in a typhoon. And those poor children..."

or

"Today the national deficit has hit an all time high and keeps sprialing out of control..."

And they know that if you're distracted by your sports games like the Super Bowl or the World Series, you truly will not care about the politics they play in Washington D.C. by passing countless laws you will never have the hope of understanding, until it's far, far too late to really and truly care because you're sinking into a slow state of perpetual apathy.

When truly and surely it should piss you the Hell off that these evil bastards are doing these things to you. They know an angry and thinking individual is someone who can talk to other individuals and get them aware of what's going on. Then you've got two or three angry and pissed off individuals, and informed and righteously angry public is something the politicians see as their worst nightmare.

So, are you apathetic, or are you angry yet?

Video: BANNED: How To Create an Angry American

The way to create a totally pissed off American public, is for the politicians to keep selling and telling you lies, and then you begin to see they have been using you, preying on you for your money, for your sympathy, and for your hopes and desires for safety and security. Meanwhile they give you false hope and false promises in order to lure you into believing they truly give a damn about you and your family and your wants and desires.





[edit on 23-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 09:25 AM
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The politicians do not want you to know their true agenda. That they are robbing you blind of your civil liberties, as well as your freedoms. The same goes for the Bilderberg Group. They have these pretty politicians dancing on puppet strings out there in front of you, in order to keep you hoping someone will actually fulfill their campaign promises, meanwhile, once they get into office, they fulfill only their dakr master's wishes.


[edit on 23-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 12:50 PM
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SpartanKingL, first off great thread. A real good read and viewing, i was wondering what your views are on Big Jim Tucker and what he says.

Fox



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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You mean like these videos? I think Alex Jones and Jim Tucker are doing a lot of things towards fighting the Bilderberg Group. Unfortuanately, I think they can do a lot better in their approach, and as well they can get the message out there faster if they do a few other things as well. I'll go into it more later on, probably editing this post.





When I refer to them doing things better, I mean in that they charge out the behind for the DVD's Alex Jones does, he should be finding alternate ways to get them out at lower cost to free, so that it can get out more, like looking for corporate sponsors to pay for the costs involved.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
So, are you apathetic, or are you angry yet?


The Apathetic sheep are laughing at you... they do not want you to disturb their green pastures...



It is our job to spread the word to the handful of rebel sheep that will listen and change their ways...

What they don't realize is that the wolves are banding together for a frontal assault... and by the time they see them coming to their door... it will be TOO LATE




[edit on 23-6-2008 by zorgon]



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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Ha ha ha.

The problem here is of course, that the wolves are the ones up top running the show. This of course being the Bilderberg Group as well as all of their cronies, preying on the weak sheeple to trust them, and trusting as well that the weak sheeple will never learn how to play on the deadly field of combat being politics because the sheeple are convinced it's just too hard to do which is a load of crap.



posted on Jun, 23 2008 @ 10:09 PM
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I was going to say something totally innapropriate about you having sheep photos, but I'm going to behave here as I don't want to get banned.

The Bilderberg Group has so much power and influence already, but the people of the world can change that at any time they want to.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 05:09 AM
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The Bilderbergers are nothing more than a group of the richest most powerful people on this planet. There is no mystery here! Just plain simple human nature: they wish to preserve and expand what they have. Just as those with power and money always have.

what they will do is accurately (becasue they have some influence!) predict the way the worlds economy and politcal landscape will change. Globalisation IS inevitable, all the Bilderbergers can do is speed up that process and make sure that they keep control of it. We cannot stop globalisation since it's been happening since the first stone axe was carved, it's just a lot faster these days. What we can do is make sure that these groups of power hungry, greedy individuals don't warp decent politicians. Please don't start the paranoid ALL politicians are evil line, it's crap. My dad's an ex politician, I've met many politician's. Most are decent people trying to change things for the better (irrespective of the colour/wing). There are always bad apples as there are in all walks of life. Reporting that 95% of politicians had a productive, uncorrupt day helping their constituents, day after day after day after day DOESN'T SELL PAPERS!!!

Stop listening to the rich. Ignore their bleating tax complaints. Don't believe a word of "we are necessary for the economy so we deserve what we earn" line either.......remember the bankers.......

The worst thing we can do is to make out that there is a weird and wonderful satanic NWO conspiracy intent on enslaving the world. That's paranoid delusion territory that causes the real problem to be ignored by most people. The problem is:

Simple greed.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by malcr
The Bilderbergers are nothing more than a group of the richest most powerful people on this planet.


Nothing more, eh. That's the most significant demographic there is. Compared to them, everyone else are sheeple - the "useless eaters" as they mockingly have dubbed us.


what they will do is accurately (becasue they have some influence!) predict the way the worlds economy and politcal landscape will change.


They don't predict anything. They do. Not because "they have some influence" but because they are the world's economy; they are the political landscape.


Globalisation IS inevitable, all the Bilderbergers can do is speed up


The Bilderbergers are the incarnation of globalization; they haven't merely been speeding it up. The abstraction was created by them, so they can have free reign over all ostensible sovereign nations. They created the damn EU for God's sake.


We cannot stop globalisation since it's been happening since the first stone axe was carved, it's just a lot faster these days.


You're buying into the BS they have fed you. There's two choices: 1) Sovereignty, or 2) slavery.


What we can do is make sure that these groups of power hungry, greedy individuals don't warp decent politicians.


The people who have really changed the world for the better have never been a part of the behemoth called government.


Please don't start the paranoid ALL politicians are evil line, it's crap.


Oops ... too late.


My dad's an ex politician, I've met many politician's.


Unless your dad blew the whistle on the Bilderbergs or similar bloodsuckers who are a cancer on society, then he is/was a part of the problem. Sorry ... the truth hurts.


The problem is:

Simple greed.


On this I agree; but there is no cure short of being redeemed. No mythical utopia or some imposed socialism will fix it either.



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 07:50 AM
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I stopped believing in the New World Order some time ago, as it was a "straw adversary" or better know as a diversion, both in that the Bilderberg Group as well as politicians in the know gave us citizens who suspected they were up to something, something to chase, like a dog chasing it's own tail, it gets you nowhere real fast, and like a dog doing just that, the dog looks silly as Hell and eventualy gets worn out. Meanwhile everyone watches said dog look silly and is laughing at that dog, because "silly dog, you can't catch your tail" and the dog either gets dizzy and or falls down, stops to wag its tail to see who's watching, or is distracted by something else altogether.

As I've stated before it was a giant game of Chinese Whispers where someone along the way started a rumor that the "black Helter Skelter helicopters" of the "New World Order" or the "secret military" of the same said New World Order will come to get your guns or you someday. While in actuality it was probably the Bilderberg Group or some other branch of their minions who began the rumor to make it so the phone lines as well as internet blogs and conspiracy theory websites were all-a-buzz with "if the New World Order comes, I've got so-and-so guns stashed blah blah" or "they will have to take my guns from my cold dead hands" etc etc, so that the computers they have programmed to listen for keywords as well as monitor keywords coming through your ISP, or Internet Service Provider would log that as a red flag or two, and you would be marked for a potential threat as well as it gives them a legitimate reason to up the next fiscal years budget on Law Enforcement or Military Budget, etc because they know people are planning smartly to do exactly what they do not want them to do.

While in actuality it's not the "New World Order" at all but the World Government using the False Flag Operation of a straw adversary as a diversion and in essence manipulating you, the average citizen into incriminating yourself in some assinine way through subversive talk over a phone line that goes back to Ma Bell because the computers they have had for the last 50 years watch for keywords like bomb, guns, Weapons of Mass Destruction, etc, and the whole thing has been in essence the Government masking their intentions through illusion that "they are here to protect you" while in actuality they are trying to get you to get yourself killed off somehow through going to war, or planning some alternate event that gets your damn fool head blown off.

As I've stated in this thread though Bilderberger : The Global Agenda, Eugenics, Global Warming, And Biochiping Sheeple the goal is to subvert your attention while they shift and move things around like on a chess board, meanwhile the entire goal has been to eventually replace the current system with the constantly shifting and improving system they have as well as getting you microchipped with the Verichip/Digital Angel device like you did you pet doggy or kitty like you're some damn pet to these rich jerks and also having the ability to track you everywhere and in essence have a running Census eventually to have a trending/tracking ability of everywhere you go like the RFID chip device where when you go out of Wal-Mart or some other store and the RFID chip sets off an alarm, the reverse will eventually happen that those same said devices sounding an alarm at Wal-Mart will instead tell a computer database that Joe Public Citizen Number 001 has walked into Wal-Mart and if you just happen to be wanted on a felony charge for something stupid you did, or they determine it's time to label you as a dissident to the mass media, the computer will then notify the nearest Law Enforcement that you are in fact within the Wal-Mart at so-and so street with so-and-so "best friends" who they also know happen to carry this brand of weapon.

Just look at the electronic eyes in the store the next time you go in and imagine in the next 10 years or so maybe longer that the device that so conveniantly opens the door for you can also stop you from exiting because "the door is malfunctioning" or Law Enforcement can heard other people away by closing one side of the doors and spring a choke point trap on you as a citizen through diverting you through a certain door into a waiting trap when you come out with your arms loaded with groceries or shopping cart packed to the gills and you were unsuspecting the whole time you were shopping with your friends of this being set-up the whole time you were nonchalantly talking about tomorrows plans to play football with the family at the park on your planned family reunion.




[edit on 24-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 24 2008 @ 08:23 AM
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A lot of this has been role reversal or even reverse psychology mixed with psychological operations pre-planned and staged in order to get the facts written down on some paper somewhere or sent through a data-collection point just to sift and sort data of the people who might be the worst offenders someday etc.

The book No Place to Hide talks about how the credit agencies as well as credit card companies or website purchases online are all tracked now and reported to the Government through domestic intelligence which is legal in that the Government has a civilian agency doing their dirty work because their hands are clean of domestic surveillance since the public knows to watch for it and screams at the top of their lungs when it happens.

Instead, groups like the Bilderberg Group, or whoever else you want to throw into the mix can pay off some greedy CEO somewhere to do their job for them and unsuspecting CEO is collecting a bigger paycheck or get the special "certification" they need to be in compliance with the Wolrd Government/Bilderberg Group's "World Agenda" to track your every action everywhere you go.

The old adage "if you have nothing to hide" takes on a whole new meaning in that you can not hide, because these rich fat cats know for us as citizens to plan a Revolution, oh watch out there's a keyword they watch, you need privacy to do so, because if "Big Brother" is watching over your shoulder you can't count your bullets with your fellow citizens.

It's odd isn't it how the Bilderberg Group want to meet in secret to be undisturbed at some posh hotel where they rent out the entire hotel for the weekend with armed guards out front to meet in secret from us intelligent citizens they state us citizens are mad and that they have nothing to hide and their actions are legitimate but when a large group of civilians were to meet in secret with loaded weapons to watch out for Government people we are labeled as subversives as well as now you are not a freedom-fighter but labeled as a "potential threat" or "enemy combatant" as seperate people but in large groups you meet and you might be labeled as a "terrorist organization" because you're meeting in secret and strategizing in secret, just like the Bilderberg Group does.

Wow, the analogy here is fascinating, we as citizens who want our Government to do what's best for us and protect us from terrorists are in fact being bullied around by the likes of the Bilderberg Group who if you think about the wording of what a terrorist is, the Bilderberg Group would in fact fit the exact profile of a terrorist organization.

Let's see, they have trillions in their bank accounts, they have armed people at their events, and they also "secretly meet" by not telling the public their plans nor allowing us entry, basically keeping their every word a secret. That sure fits their definition of a terrorist organization when the role is reversed doesn't it.

Let's look at it another way shall we.

Osama bin Laden has trillions in his bank accounts, he has armed troops willing to die to protect him, he meets with his soldiers in secret, and doesn't tell anyone but his trusted allies his plans. Terrorist organization.

Bilderberg Group has trillions in each independant person's bank account, each Bilderberg member has armed troops to protect them as personal assistants that will die to protect them, and they meet in secret, and do not tell anyone of ther actions except their trusted allies. Terrorist organization.

Yup, the profile fits alright.

[edit on 24-6-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]





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