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Christianity 'could die out within a century'

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posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 12:56 AM
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Christianity 'could die out within a century'


www.telegraph.co.uk

Research published earlier this year suggested that church attendance is declining so fast that the number of regular churchgoers will be fewer than those attending mosques within a generation.

According to Religious Trends, an analysis of religious practice in Britain, the huge drop off in attendance means that the Church of England, Catholicism and other denominations will become financially unviable.
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posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 12:56 AM
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I can say I am a Christian but do not follow organized Religion. There just has been to much that can be disputed, one major example is certain books being left out of the bible among other things.

www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Now if only all other religions could follow suit...

Well... a man can dream cant he?



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:09 AM
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The prediction of the demise of christianity is premature. It is dying out in europe, that's to be expected in the future home of the antichrist. Everywhere else however, especially in the third world and in places like China it's growing like crazy, fueled by miracles, healings and the raising of the dead.

www.megashiftministries.org...

Only in the cold dead pseudo-christian west, where pleasures are the new gods is it dying. I guarantee you though there will be a revival even in the West before the end.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:12 AM
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As an atheist, I'm kind of out of the loop on this... but it makes me wonder:

What is Islam offering it's adherents that Christianity isn't? Any Muslims care to comment?



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:15 AM
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Please don't misconstrue this as Christian hate:

But if religion, of any kind, continues on it's path of territorialism, and harmful dogmas, their destruction will be their own making. If the worlds major religions continue to instigate each other into war and ideological oppression and suppression, then they lend themselves to the fires where faith often evaporates, never to return in the same fashion again. Wouldn't be the first time in our history that world religions have been cast to the pile of old stories that mean little.

It is my hope that religions of the world, including Christianity, embrace the core of what it is that makes them truly powerful, love, respect, duty, sacrifice, honor, and faith.


God bless and good luck.

P.S.

I'm not religious in anyway. And what I mentioned above is why, but faith and my other ideals have not left me, and never will.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:18 AM
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If only all religions would die out, we would all benefit.

There must be something we can do to wipe out the scourge of the planet.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:19 AM
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Christianity 'could die out within a century


That's great to hear. Seriously, I'll give that a big ironic Amen.

Somehow I feel like the Christians will be paying this thread a visit soon...and also ironically, they will feel the need to defend their religion here to "save us" from eternal damnation.



[edit on 6/21/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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I see religion , as we know it changing . These changes will not only effect Christianity but many of the other faiths .



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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MadHatter.....I'll join you on that bandwagon.

In fact, I want to see ALL religions dismissed by humanity.

Religions are written by other humans. Not one human has ever had all knowledge. SO, no one 'religion' has all of the answers....that humans seem to crave, before they die.....which is the real problem. Humans are afraid of dying. Because they have been told to be afraid of dying....hence, religions take hold in the mind....feeding on the fear.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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Well, you can look at this a number of different ways...

From the aspect of the believer in Christianity:

1. This turn away from Jesus is part of prophecy and is yet another clear sign in an ever growing (in frequency, intensity, and number) list of signs the end times are knocking at our front door. Before a century has passed and before Christianity has "died out," Christ will return in a cloud of angels and, in a way, this prediction is true for a brief spell if you are in the pre-tribulation rapture school of teaching.

2. This is impossible, and can never happen, though there will be a great persecution of Christianity. We're already seeing this beginning. Islam, pagan religions, the religion of atheism, budhism, and any of a number of new age and eastern religions are embraced as "diversity" and "acceptance" while expressing your belief in Christ and your belief that, in it's essence, America is a Christian nation built upon Christian ideologies is becoming strictly taboo. It's even worse in Europe where, under certain conditions, you can be imprisoned or fined heavily in France and Germany for expressing your Christian beliefs publically.

However, Christianity isn't about a building called "the church." This is a vital point which the article seems to completely miss. Early Christians lived in perpetual fear of the Romans and even the Jews, and, as such they weren't afforded the luxury of gathering in huge congregations marked outside for all to see. They gathered in small family groups, sometimes with one or two visitors or teachers from outside the family, but rarely in groups even larger than 10 believers and they would meet at any time, on any day. It was more about fellowship and nothing like today's "*sigh* well, time to go to church...*yawn*." The process of worship isn't restricted to the Sabbath... this is an idea that has been pushed upon Christianity by greed at the highest level. The organized church in all of it's glory began to run itself like a profiteering business, in which it was stressed that Sundays were "must go" church days and the more people you got together, the more you raked in when you passed the offering basket around. But when the Bible says "Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy" it doesn't say anywhere this includes having to go to any church or service outside your own home. Rather, Jesus said differently "Where two or more of you gather in my name... I will be there." That's fellowship, worship, and the crux of Christianity and that will never die on Earth until Jesus returns and takes the true believers with him to be with the Father.

From the aspects of the non-believer:

I have no groundwork to go one here, only speculations. As I have never been a non-believer, nor can I ever see a time when that will be the case, their positions have always been something of an enigma to me. I personally believe that they are driven by fear and stories like this one allow them to experience a false freedom from that ever present fear, at least temporarily. It provides them with justification. Nobody wants to be the sole guy with a shaved head at the senior prom after believing everyone else was going to shave their head, too. The non-believers may hold very strong positions of disbelief, but the only thing that explains the vitriol they demonstrate towards believers (for example, by reveling in articles such as this one) is that they deal with a constant underlying "what if?" in the back of their subconcious. Be seeing an article that seemingly indicates more believers are turning away from their beliefs, it somehow makes them feel better by bolstering the numbers on their side. Like Dio said: "The mob rules... if you listen to fools." Non believers are constantly searching for a greater numbers advatage to increase the size of their mob and its rule.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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I agree.

Religion was written by man. The bible was written 400 years after any of the supposed events in it happened. And on top of that, it was written by a guy who claimed God told him what to write. Where I come from, we call that crazy. And Prophet Yahweh summons UFOs because god tells us he can. Right.


Not to mention the bible steals so many things from paganism and judaism.
But wait....steal you say? Christians would never steal anything....the bible says so!

In my opinion if your gonna buy into the bible, you might as well buy season tickets with Tom Cruise to the great show of scientology too...and don't forget your xenu souvenir. They're on sale for $100,000 and your soul.

EDIT:

I would also like to add that I am not an atheist as some will assume me to be and hoping for the downfall of organized religion does not mean I do not believe in God. Religions create separation in the human species. To say one religion is right and the other is wrong divides us of a common goal of unity. And THAT is what's important. Not what religion you are, but that you believe. Period.

[edit on 6/21/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:41 AM
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Well, at least from this Christian you might be surprised, Mad Hatter. You see, I could honestly care less about your eternal soul and what happens to it. In fact, it's none of my business whatsoever. I care about my own soul and the souls of my family members and that's pretty much it. For any Christians out there that feel the need to prostyletize and try to convert every nonbeliever they encounter, Jesus did, in fact, instruct his disciples to "leave that area, kicking the dirt from your sandals as you exit it's boundaries" if their message was not recieved willingly.

Combine that with the fact that I am not God and have no idea or say in what will happen to anyone's soul after they die, and you may understand why I really don't lose any sleep over your soul, or anyone else's who isn't directly related to me.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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I salute you for not forcing your views and being respectable. I star you for that my friend. I think you are one of the ones who realizes the importance in just having faith and simply believing, regardless of discrimination.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:48 AM
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[edit on 6/21/0808 by weedwhacker]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 01:52 AM
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LOL, I'm going to clear up a factual error in there. The Bible "steals" from Judaism, does it? Uh, try actually cracking a book on world religion sometime, would you? Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same God. Both Islam and Christianity are off shoots from traditional Judaism. The Torrah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament. Jesus was a Jew. The Apostles: Jews.... Paul: a Jew.... The vast majority of early Christians: all Jews.... Hell, Messianic Judaism is not a small religion today. The Quran, while not directly acknowledging Him as the Son of God, discusses Jesus and identifies Him as a great, great prophet. I guess they "stole" from Christianity, eh?

To say that the Bible "stole" from Judaism is kinda like saying the United States "stole" from Britain, or Canada "stole" from France, or Mexico "stole" from Spain, or you "stole" from your father because you are composed of half his DNA. The statement indicates a complete and utter lack of even basic knowledge of world religion and speaks volumes to where your attitude towards religion came from... most people inately have a fear and often a hatred of that which they have no knowledge of. Seriously man, your local library, Barnes & Noble, or een an afternoon spent on Wikipedia reading about as many different world religions as you can find information on would at the very least inform you as to what it is you're railing against.

EDIT NOTE: I just reread this and I'm coming off looking like an ass here. Sorry about that. No hostillity intended. Years ago I had a debate with a guy in a college debate class about religions. The guy hadn't done any research and made flailing haymakerlike claims against religion, including Christianity. He tried to take the position that Christians had blatently "stolen" the Jewish Bible because he heard someone once say that "the Old Testament was a plagarization of the Jew's Bible" and he just assumed they knew what they were talking about.

[edit on 21-6-2008 by burdman30ott6]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by burdman30ott6
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LOL, I'm going to clear up a factual error in there. The Bible "steals" from Judaism, does it? Uh, try actually cracking a book on world religion sometime, would you? Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same God. Both Islam and Christianity are off shoots from traditional Judaism. The Torrah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament. Jesus was a Jew. The Apostles: Jews.... Paul: a Jew.... The vast majority of early Christians: all Jews.... Hell, Messianic Judaism is not a small religion today. The Quran, while not directly acknowledging Him as the Son of God, discusses Jesus and identifies Him as a great, great prophet. I guess they "stole" from Christianity, eh?


Thanks for contradicting yourself and proving my point here. We will use the word borrowed instead of stole from here on out to satisfy you, okay? okay.



To say that the Bible "stole" from Judaism is kinda like saying the United States "stole" from Britain, or Canada "stole" from France, or Mexico "stole" from Spain, or you "stole" from your father because you are composed of half his DNA. The statement indicates a complete and utter lack of even basic knowledge of world religion and speaks volumes to where your attitude towards religion came from... most people inately have a fear and often a hatred of that which they have no knowledge of. Seriously man, your local library, Barnes & Noble, or een an afternoon spent on Wikipedia reading about as many different world religions as you can find information on would at the very least inform you as to what it is you're railing against.


Hey Christian, are you done flaming me for my views that differ from yours?

I am not here to argue this point with you. I guess you would prefer the word "borrowed?"
I have no fear or hatred towards religion, I just feel it is not necessary to divide humanity in Gods name, but if you says so. This requires no knowledge of reading or world religion. And I have read religious texts such as the Bible and the Quran. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to point out the ironies in your flaming above. I could have eaten some alphabits and crapped out a better stew of words. But thanks for your input though.

[edit on 6/21/2008 by Mad_Hatter]



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
If only all religions would die out, we would all benefit.

There must be something we can do to wipe out the scourge of the planet.

You do not realize it, but WHEN world religion goes down, the rest of the world will follow immediately.
Check out Revelation chapters 17 and 18 and when you do, understand the great harlot to be the world empire of false religion. Following the description of the "woman," you find these words:
“And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.”  And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.” (Revelation 17:5-6)

Then comes this description of her demise:
“And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.  And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.” (Revelation 17:15-16)

But why?
“ Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”” (Revelation 18:24)

Why will political elements destroy her?
“For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought.” (Revelation 17:17)

The reaction of the "kings of the earth," (politicians) and the "traveling merchants," (commercialists) follow in chapter 18.

The military and political elements will fight (Armageddon) and lose:
“And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse (Jesus) and with his army.” (Revelation 19:19)

There are many things in there that you will not understand.
Feel free to ask.


Wilson.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 02:17 AM
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Well, you sure can't tell that you've read them before, I'll say that. I didn't flame you (actually you flamed Christianity in general in your first post in this thread, but whatever makes you feel good, huh?), I pointed out an incorrect statement you made. The fact that you tried the word "borrowed" in your next reply actually cements my point, dude. They didn't borrow, either. Christianity was born from Judaism. The Torrah is as much a foundation of Christianity as it is of Judaism. You don't steal or borrow something if it's been an integral part of you since the beginning. Now, we can play this "yes you are, no I'm not" crap all day if it rocks your boat, but all that we're doing is spinning our wheels.



posted on Jun, 21 2008 @ 02:20 AM
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All of the foaming at the mouth atheist zealots shouldn't get too excited - it looks like the extent of this "research" was plotting attendance in excel and doing a trend line. The ACTUAL research that looks at what influences church attendance shows that the independent variables in play are cyclical, so the straight down turn some of you might be praying (how ironic) for isn't likely. It also looks like none of the "researchers" were smart enough to control for population size.


[edit on 21-6-2008 by ALightinDarkness]




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